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Peugeot 2.0 HDi (Yes or No??)

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  • 09-07-2012 12:40am
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    REDLAD123
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭


    Hi I'm looking for a budget diesel car (4 grand-ish) for getting to work. I've seen a few 05 and 06 Peugeot 407 2.0 HDi for this price and want to know if anyone on here has owned one or still does. I know the 1.6 HDi gives a bit of trouble with turbos etc so I won't be buying one of them.

    Are the 2.0 HDi any good?

    PS. Don't tell me to buy a petrol :D


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    #2
    carbon nanotube
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    is there an option b) available..

    a skoda is much better than any french car.


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    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    is there an option b) available..

    a skoda is much better than any french car.

    Octaviaaaaa ..... !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    body-in-car-300x225.jpg


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    GTDolanator
    Registered Users Posts: 772 ✭✭✭GTDolanator


    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    is there an option b) available..

    a skoda is much better than any french car.


    oh give up,skoda this and skoda that,thats all ya hear on this site


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    Meesared
    Registered Users Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Meesared


    I had a 2.0 TDI 206 (don't ask lol) But I loved that little car, theyre a good engine, I had no major trouble with mine (engine wise) when I had it!


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    D16TURBO
    Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭D16TURBO


    Good morning,

    I've a 407 with the 2.0 Hdi and I find it very reliable. mine averages about 50-52mpg with quite a mix of motorway and town.
    I've had to clean the egr valve alright but its not something thats difficult to do.

    Clutch, DMF, abs sensors are the main problems you can come across on them but do your research and look at a few. History is essential aswell.


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    166man
    Registered Users Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭166man


    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    is there an option b) available..

    a skoda is much better than any french car.

    Your posts really do gI from bad to worse on this site don't they? Dgt is hopefully gonna be on here to tear your above comments to shreds.

    The French made many reliable diesels actually. 306, 405,406 all diesels spring to mind. Do some research before posting such comments. :)


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    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    166man wrote: »
    Your posts really do gI from bad to worse on this site don't they? Dgt is hopefully gonna be on here to tear your above comments to shreds.

    The French made many reliable diesels actually. 306, 405,406 all diesels spring to mind. Do some research before posting such comments. :)

    And their engines go into a bunch of other cars too :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_HDi_engine
    The 8-valve, 2.0 L DW10 Peugeot/Citroën, delivering 90 or 110 bhp, is part of the PSA EW/DW engine family. It is equipped with a fixed-geometry turbocharger. The PSA/Ford joint venture ZSD engine Diesel engine uses the same cylinder casing but has a 16-valve head. This engine is fitted to the Ford Focus, 2007 Ford Mondeo, Ford Galaxy, Ford C-Max, Ford S-Max, Volvo C30, Volvo S40, Volvo V50, and PSA cars


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    [Deleted User]
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    GTDolanator wrote: »
    oh give up,skoda this and skoda that,thats all ya hear on this site

    Unreal, like a load of fat taxi drivers with their expert views :pac:


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    FrontDoor
    Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭FrontDoor


    REDLAD123 wrote: »
    Hi I'm looking for a budget diesel car (4 grand-ish) for getting to work. I've seen a few 05 and 06 Peugeot 407 2.0 HDi for this price and want to know if anyone on here has owned one or still does. I know the 1.6 HDi gives a bit of trouble with turbos etc so I won't be buying one of them.

    Are the 2.0 HDi any good?

    PS. Don't tell me to buy a petrol :D

    By all accounts, the 1.6 is the same engine as the one in the Focus and a few other cars. I think most of the issues with them relate to poor servicing. If you get a well minded car, these shouldn't arise.

    There is a DPF system in the 406 as well.

    Big Citroens and Peugeots are dirt cheap and yet go onto to DoneDeal and you will see lots of them with 250,000 km up. Wasn't there a taxi driver on lately who had one with 300,000?

    I think a well minded C5 from 2005 -2008 would be a good buy as it was the second generation of the car and most of the gremlins would be sorted. A 2nd generation 407 also as many of the issues relating to the suspension were tidied up here too.

    A lot depends on what sort of driver you are too. I've driven hundreds of thousands of miles and never had an issue with a clutch, etc, turbo, etc. I hear of others who manage to destroy a car in 50000 miles.


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    REDLAD123
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭REDLAD123


    Thanks for all the replies guys... Some were helpful, some were not ;)

    BTW I think Skodas are a fine car and basically the same as the 1.9 Passat tdi which when looked after are very reliable, engine wise anyway. However a 06 or 07 Skoda Octavia Tdi would be up to double my budget..

    I totally agree that maintenance and history on any car is extremely important..


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    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users Posts: 16,375 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    keithclancy wrote: »
    And their engines go into a bunch of other cars too :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_HDi_engine
    The old 2.0 8V HDI engines were decent, but the newer 2.0/1.6 16V HDI engines (I would assume that all 407's have one of the newer engines) with DPF's aren't as good. DMF failure can manifest itself at around 60-80k miles. DPF failure can really happen at anytime, especially if the previous owner didn't give a sh!t about regeneration cycles.

    I would avoid the 407 to be honest. If you want a cheap French car, go for an older generation (without DPF) Citroen C5 as it's going to be next to impossible to find a 406 that hasn't had the wheels driven off it.


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    gollywog
    Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    FrontDoor wrote: »
    By all accounts, the 1.6 is the same engine as the one in the Focus and a few other cars. I think most of the issues with them relate to poor servicing. If you get a well minded car, these shouldn't arise.

    There is a DPF system in the 406 as well.

    Big Citroens and Peugeots are dirt cheap and yet go onto to DoneDeal and you will see lots of them with 250,000 km up. Wasn't there a taxi driver on lately who had one with 300,000?

    I think a well minded C5 from 2005 -2008 would be a good buy as it was the second generation of the car and most of the gremlins would be sorted. A 2nd generation 407 also as many of the issues relating to the suspension were tidied up here too.

    A lot depends on what sort of driver you are too. I've driven hundreds of thousands of miles and never had an issue with a clutch, etc, turbo, etc. I hear of others who manage to destroy a car in 50000 miles.

    My brother has a 00 406 2.0hdi with, wait for it...... over 600,000 MILES on it and he still driving around!! Said once he keeps it serviced regularly he has no bother with it yet.


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    carbon nanotube
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    GTDolanator wrote: »
    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    is there an option b) available..

    a skoda is much better than any french car.


    A skoda superb elegance would destroy any French car.

    I never mentioned an Octavia..:P


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    Meesared
    Registered Users Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Meesared


    600000??? The mind boggles...


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    carbon nanotube
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    GTDolanator wrote: »
    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    is there an option b) available..

    a skoda is much better than any french car.


    A skoda superb elegance would destroy any French car.

    I never mentioned an Octavia..:P

    Since thats out of budget go ahead and get a French one, don't expect much for when you get to sell it on though.


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    carbon nanotube
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    166man wrote: »
    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    is there an option b) available..

    a skoda is much better than any french car.

    Your posts really do gI from bad to worse on this site don't they? Dgt is hopefully gonna be on here to tear your above comments to shreds.

    The French made many reliable diesels actually. 306, 405,406 all diesels spring to mind. Do some research before posting such comments. :)


    I'm trembling with excitement at the thought of them cars..


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    [Deleted User]
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    carbon nanotube wrote: »

    Since thats out of budget go ahead and get a French one, don't expect much for when you get to sell it on though.

    When spending 4k is resale value a huge concern if planning on keeping the car a couple of years?


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    REDLAD123
    Registered Users Posts: 41 ✭REDLAD123


    Ok I'm getting very negative feedback on the 2.0 HDI and this DPF thing sounds like a pain.. I'm gonna look at a 2003 Audi A4 1.9TDi later this evening (fancy Skoda ;)). I've decided to stay with the Germans anyway.


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    gollywog
    Registered Users Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭gollywog


    Meesared wrote: »
    600000??? The mind boggles...

    Ya i know it's insane..... 1 million kilometres like!


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    dgt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,985 ✭✭✭✭dgt


    I know of a chap who bought a 407 in 2006 new and gave a heap of trouble. It was a petrol one mind you and most of the trouble was engine related...

    If you were going for a 2.0HDi in the 407 it would be a 16v iirc, sweet enough to go. Beware of the FAP though!!! Many HDis on the road, especially in the North, they're everywhere :)

    Once it's well minded I can't see why it won't do the mileage. As for French electrics, Peugeot got their act together after the 406 :)


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    166man
    Registered Users Posts: 6,575 ✭✭✭166man


    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    GTDolanator wrote: »


    A skoda superb elegance would destroy any French car.

    I never mentioned an Octavia..:P

    I thought a Honda Accord was the best car in the world?

    Also a Skoda Superb Elegance for €4k?


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    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    carbon nanotube wrote: »


    A skoda superb elegance would destroy any French car.

    I never mentioned an Octavia..:P

    The only thing that makes the Superb any good is the price.

    Which is great, but there are nicer cars out there ;)


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    cadaliac
    Registered Users Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭cadaliac


    keithclancy wrote: »
    The only thing that makes the Superb any good is the price.

    Which is great, but there are nicer cars out there ;)

    +1

    Very overrated cars imo. Big, ugly, cheap diesel cars.


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    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    GTDolanator wrote: »
    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    is there an option b) available..

    a skoda is much better than any french car.


    A skoda superb elegance would destroy any French car.

    I never mentioned an Octavia..:P
    It would in its arse. A c6 wouldn't even stop to look at it. A top spec c5 is a lot nicer too .


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    carbon nanotube
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    166man wrote: »
    carbon nanotube wrote: »

    I thought a Honda Accord was the best car in the world?

    Also a Skoda Superb Elegance for €4k?


    i said above forget the elegance (and accord diesels) as i wasn't sure of the OPs budget.

    2.4 Accord executive is a quality car, i guess not as good as an alfa 166 though. :rolleyes:


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    carbon nanotube
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    It would in its arse. A c6 wouldn't even stop to look at it. A top spec c5 is a lot nicer too .


    a C6 well within the OPs budget of course


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    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    carbon nanotube wrote: »


    a C6 well within the OPs budget of course

    So when you said this sweeping comment you were talking in the context of the OP's budget and not just in general ?

    Much as the current Superb is nice for its price point, the old one isnt and theres a long list of nicer French cars.
    carbon nanotube wrote: »


    A skoda superb elegance would destroy any French car.


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    carbon nanotube
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    i didn't know what the ops budget was, but a diesel well appointed audi with a service history would be much better than a boring peugeot diesel that is mentioned here.

    only in recent years have french cars become something actual car enthusiasts would buy.


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    carbon nanotube
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    So when you said this sweeping comment you were talking in the context of the OP's budget and not just in general ?

    Much as the current Superb is nice for its price point, the old one isnt and theres a long list of nicer French cars.



    nicer french cars in what way...

    name any french car from 2000-2005 (or to cover the OPs budget) or so which is 'desirable' in a motorists enthusiasts way.

    and not in the way of someone who would buy a dog if it could get them from A to B.


    take your time..


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    [Deleted User]
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    carbon nanotube wrote: »
    i didn't know what the ops budget was......................

    only in recent years have french cars become something actual car enthusiasts would buy.

    Can't you read properly?
    You seem to miss important points of posts fairly frequently and than claim you didn't know about these points.

    Ever heard of a 205GTi btw?


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