"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

expectationlost · 14-09-2010 5:49pm

wish the author would stop insulting our intelligence

Dades · 14-09-2010 5:52pm

Ush1 wrote: »

In the same vein, doubt the folks at Nat Geo will appreciate him holding up their magazine and shouting "BULLSH*T!".

I doubt the folks at NG will ever even know.

Paparazzo · 14-09-2010 5:55pm

Dades wrote: »

I doubt the folks at NG will ever even know.

I think his book will bring down NG.

Dougla2 · 14-09-2010 6:03pm

Paparazzo wrote: »

Actually, I think I misheard George. Sorry!

George doesn't seem like the type to understand evolution if he was doing it anyway , he could believe in it but not understand it enough to debate someone who has researched it albeit badly.

mewso · 14-09-2010 6:08pm

Matt spoke to Michael Nugent which was quite good but then spoke to the absolutely reprehensible Cal Thomas later who said we should be open to all ideas, my hand doesn't look like a Gorillas yada yada. Then in the ad break what comes on? You know who offering 10,000 bananas telling us to go to www.darwinsdeadidea.com which just goes to the original site.

Ush1 · 14-09-2010 6:34pm

Just listened to the Moncrieff interview.

Unreal, so funny. Some real classic quotes.

"We didn't come from apes we came from our mothers!":pac:

"Of course God created them who dya think did?"

And of course he let slip that it's all about religion by saying that the bible is the actual truth.

Dougla2 · 14-09-2010 6:38pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Just listened to the Moncrieff interview.

Unreal, so funny. Some real classic quotes.

"We didn't come from apes we came from our mothers!":pac:

"Of course God created them who dya think did?"

And of course he let slip that it's all about religion by saying that the bible is the actual truth.

yeah the god one was real funny, great interview if not just because of the comic value

Ush1 · 14-09-2010 6:45pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

yeah the god one was real funny, great interview if not just because of the comic value

I actually think Moncrieff was really good, is he an atheist? Not that it matters, he seemed to have a decent idea of natural history and was able to call him up on most of what he said. I reckon if it was in a pub he would have ripped him to shreds but wouldn't be that cruel on his radio show. Well played.

Dougla2 · 14-09-2010 6:49pm

Ush1 wrote: »

I actually think Moncrieff was really good, is he an atheist? Not that it matters, he seemed to have a decent idea of natural history and was able to call him up on most of what he said. I reckon if it was in a pub he would have ripped him to shreds but wouldn't be that cruel on his radio show. Well played.

i don't know but you don't have to be atheist to accept evolution

sensibleken · 14-09-2010 6:53pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Just listened to the Moncrieff interview.

Unreal, so funny. Some real classic quotes.

"We didn't come from apes we came from our mothers!":pac:

"Of course God created them who dya think did?"

And of course he let slip that it's all about religion by saying that the bible is the actual truth.

the opening line was my favourite.

'Evolutionists will try to tell you what happened millions of years ago. Now if you try to remember something 40 years ago youd have trouble'

therefore evolution is bull****

QED.

amacachi · 14-09-2010 6:54pm

oceanclub wrote: »

Yup, because famously that how scientists win debates; they sue each other.

Seems to be a good tactic though, from Private Eye it seems a lot of people are doing "libel tourism" in the UK where the laws are lax and the legal fees can properly **** someone over if they don't back down, even before it gets to a proper court.

If there's anything further on radio could someone post a listen live link?

Dougla2 · 14-09-2010 6:55pm

sensibleken wrote: »

the opening line was my favourite.

'Evolutionists will try to tell you what happened millions of years ago. Now if you try to remember something 40 years ago youd have trouble'

therefore evolution is bull****

QED.

lol i know right , no one remembers evolution you don't need to we got fossils , DNA and carbon dating. this guy is a buffoon

Ush1 · 14-09-2010 6:59pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

i don't know but you don't have to be atheist to accept evolution

Yeah, that's what I meant by "not that it matters".

Dougla2 · 14-09-2010 7:00pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Yeah, that's what I meant by "not that it matters".

Oh! , sorry didnt read the whole post

sensibleken · 14-09-2010 7:04pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

lol i know right , no one remembers evolution you don't need to we got fossils , DNA and carbon dating. this guy is a buffoon

also humans didnt exist 6000 years ago because theres no historical records saying 'howaya, john jo the pre-babylonian here'

mohawk · 14-09-2010 7:55pm

Dougla2 wrote: »

lol i know right , no one remembers evolution you don't need to we got fossils , DNA and carbon dating. this guy is a buffoon

sorry carbon dating isn't science either did you not hear his interview

FionnMatthew · 14-09-2010 8:00pm

Here's an edited version of the podcast from Moncrieff on Newstalk :

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/560668/Moncrief%20-%20Newstalk%20-%20Interview%20With%20Creationist%20Idiot%20John%20May.mp3

Hivemind187 · 14-09-2010 8:20pm

5: It is a toxic poisonous mind virus which destroys the hearts immune system against hope and common sense.

From his website.

Now maybe I'm reading this wrong but I think he needs lessons in leaving cert level biology and basic grammar because this suggests that the heart should be immune from Hope and Common sense...

.. a moral stand point he is achieving well it must be said.

FionnMatthew · 14-09-2010 8:24pm

To be honest, I think this guy is too breathtakingly stupid for even our public to be impressed with him. I think the more publicity he gets, the more comprehensively it will finish him off.

sponsoredwalk · 14-09-2010 8:24pm

FionnMatthew wrote: »

Here's an edited version of the podcast from Moncrieff on Newstalk :

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/560668/Moncrief%20-%20Newstalk%20-%20Interview%20With%20Creationist%20Idiot%20Sean%20Moncrieff.mp3

Not working

sponsoredwalk · 14-09-2010 8:28pm

My favourite is his factoid about babies lack of wrinkles because of the
"water" the baby is immersed in in utero. Somebody needs to tell the
guy that a baby is immersed in Amniotic Fluid and that a simple google search
will show that babies do in fact wrinkle due to amniotic
fluid.

But then again, his anecdotal evidence must be given credence on national
radio in the interest of impartiality and fairness :rolleyes:

FionnMatthew · 14-09-2010 8:36pm

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

Not working

Oh, sorry.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/560668/Moncrief%20-%20Newstalk%20-%20Interview%20With%20Creationist%20Idiot%20John%20May.mp3

That should work.

Will change the original link.

silliegillie · 14-09-2010 8:42pm

I really feel sorry for people who believe in Creationism over evolution, and pitty the poor fools who try to disprove evolution, But there is a lot of them out there and that make me fear Human beings. People really are Dumb therefore proof we where not created by some divine being. If Im made in Gods image then her is one thick, alcoholics, mentally unstable,poor and sexually frustrated entity with an appendix ?(Why Would God have an appendix ? Also he could have done something nicer with my sack than left over elbow skin.

sponsoredwalk · 14-09-2010 9:23pm

Thanks for the link

I still don't understand how a guy whose argument against evolution is:

"Have you ever lived up a tree for a week? Try it!"
&
"People get wrinkles taking a bath, does a newborn baby have wrinkles?"
&
"There were very few tribes before the Sumerians & Babylonians, name them!"
&
"When people try to explain what happened millions of years ago when I have trouble remembering what happened 40 years ago they're waffling".
&
"Francis Collins, the eminent argumentum ad verecundiam leader of the Human Genome Project argumentum ad verecundiam is religious, so there!"
&
"Woo woo Stephen Jay Gould taken out of context woo woo"
&
"Darwin liked shooting birds"
&
"There is no evidence of intermediate fossils"
&
"I don't deal in theories"
&
"If we're related to banana's that's pathetic"
&
"Einstein didn't believe in the big bang"
&
"There may not have been a big bang, we don't know, whatever!"
&
"There is some interesting stuff in the Hebrew wribibletings."
&
"6000 years ago there were no human beings on this planet, the evidence is in my book!"
&
"It satisfies my intellectual curiousity that man was placed here 6000 years ago by a creator. End of Story!
The other theories are not credible. Evidence? Look at your desk Sean, look at the evidence of intelligence,
ergo the universe is intelligent. It's how you see it."
&
"We come from our mothers, the alternative makes no sense whatsoever."

can be given an outlet like national radio to propagate this nonsense

FionnMatthew · 14-09-2010 9:27pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agl0pOQfs

Dougla2 · 14-09-2010 9:30pm

FionnMatthew wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs

why did you post that music rape here

robindch · 14-09-2010 9:31pm

May wrote:

"Evolutionists will try to tell you what happened millions of years ago. Now if you try to remember something 40 years ago youd have trouble"

40 years? Didn't stop the gospel authors from scribbling down hundreds of direct quotes.