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    #122
    bluetop
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭bluetop


    WilcoOut wrote: »
    Open competition for commissioner announced

    few would be candidates on here no doubt

    In addition, the Cabinet resolved to urgently bring forward new legislation to strengthen the operationm of the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission. Ms Fitzgerald further said that the new Independent Garda Authority will be up and running by the end of the year.


    She reiterated the Government’s commitment to recruit the new Garda Commissioner by open competition in parallel with the establishment of the new inquiry.


    Source

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/cabinet-agrees-to-review-of-department-of-justice-operations-1.1793247


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    #123
    Santa Cruz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    WilcoOut wrote: »
    Open competition for commissioner announced

    few would be candidates on here no doubt

    Canvassing will disqualify. Will Reserve membership be an advantage?


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    #124
    timwynne
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭timwynne


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Canvassing will disqualify. Will Reserve membership be an advantage?

    open competition as they do not want a member of an garda siochana

    so the reserves are deffo out!


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    #125
    mfergus
    Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭mfergus


    timwynne wrote: »
    open competition as they do not want a member of an garda siochana

    so the reserves are deffo out!

    They should change the shoulder markings too! Give them a number. RD190 would suit :)


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    #126
    bluetop
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭bluetop


    My oh My and we have yet another FT member whistle blower now were is this going to end up, and its defo not doing the public any good seeing this carry on they will soon have no confidence in the Garda, personally there should be a clean sweep with a new broom, and i would say this is only the tip of the iceberg coming out and testing the waters
    He said Garda Harrison claims that “as a result of arresting a member of the drugs unit in Athlone for drunk driving that Garda management maliciously set about targeting him while the arrested Garda was afforded protection”.

    As we have said all along its the Management thats causing all the problem thru out all the lower rank and file members, which in turn follows thru to the reserves, hopefully the people involved will be weeded out and the Garda can get back to what its supposed to be doing.

    source
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/whistleblower-targeted-after-arresting-garda-for-drink-driving-1.1797349


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    #127
    Two Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Two Cent


    Santa Cruz wrote: »
    Dream on honey. The more things change the more they stay the same. If you believe anything different you are a fool


    I would ask if you could refrain for the personal insults please. I am and have no intension of becoming a fool...
    I haven't been wrong on things so far...
    For Political reasons, yep Political, the next commis will not be from AGS .. And I can assure you, a representative group from the reserves will be pollity asking for a meeting. The day for bashing the reserve is over. If I were ye, I would be more concerned with the current crisis that seems to be multiplying every week now.... And that's before any reserve has contributed to the wrongs we see while on duty .
    Let's wait now and see how all this pans out.... Interesting times ahead folks.


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    #128
    Shady Tady
    Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Shady Tady


    An outside commissioner may well see the reserve as surplus to requirements and ineffective and put the resources it takes into CPD or fulltime training, be careful what you wish for!


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    #129
    bluetop
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭bluetop


    Shady Tady wrote: »
    An outside commissioner may well see the reserve as surplus to requirements and ineffective and put the resources it takes into CPD or fulltime training, be careful what you wish for!

    Cant see that happening nobody in their right mind is going to get rid of 1400 reserve garda that give their time for FREE!! and are already trained up, ok not on all aspects but enough to be able to be utilised properly, maybe they might even go the way the UK model is, then everyone would be happy.

    If and i say if they go the other way then we will all know whats what, been stuck in limbo is worse, either give them powers fit for purpose or get rid either way something has to change, hopefully for the better.


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    #130
    timwynne
    Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭timwynne


    Shady Tady wrote: »
    An outside commissioner may well see the reserve as surplus to requirements and ineffective and put the resources it takes into CPD or fulltime training, be careful what you wish for!

    wow

    new commissioner coming in to scrap a resource of 1200+ people?

    not a hope

    a new commissioner could be the dawn of a new reserve

    I envisage GRs becoming resources for community policing units. a great way to harness that enthusiasm and energy


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    #131
    King Ludvig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭King Ludvig


    The reserve is provided for by law. Only the Oireachtas can scrap it. Commissioner, whether civvy or drawn from the ranks, has no power to do so.


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    #132
    Shady Tady
    Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Shady Tady


    King Ludvig wrote: »
    The reserve is provided for by law. Only the Oireachtas can scrap it. Commissioner, whether civvy or drawn from the ranks, has no power to do so.

    They can just run it down, there are plenty laws on the statute that are not used or relevant


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    #133
    bluetop
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭bluetop


    Shady Tady wrote: »
    They can just run it down, there are plenty laws on the statute that are not used or relevant

    Well they cant make it any worse then it is now, unless they scrap it, and i just see the media 1400 Garda Reserves put on the scrap heap, that will make great headlines not to mention waves for the ministers.

    As i have said fix it or dump it as it stands now its a waste of 1400 members and with resources as low as they are they should be trying to embrace the force, not alienate it.


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    #134
    Mc Jakester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭Mc Jakester


    Need I say anymore, we are still 10 years behind the U.K.

    But here's what the lads are doing across the water !....

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOiFF7IJAs


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    #135
    Shady Tady
    Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Shady Tady


    Mc Jakester wrote: »
    Need I say anymore, we are still 10 years behind the U.K.

    But here's what the lads are doing across the water !....

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOiFF7IJAs

    Well if they are doing it we must do it!!


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    #136
    bluetop
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭bluetop


    Shady Tady wrote: »
    Well if they are doing it we must do it!!

    Are we afraid of change as that is what is coming across here, stuck in time.


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    #137
    Shady Tady
    Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Shady Tady


    bluetop wrote: »
    Are we afraid of change as that is what is coming across here, stuck in time.

    Change isn't always good, a bit more life experience will teach you that!


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    bluetop
    Registered Users Posts: 383 ✭✭bluetop


    Shady Tady wrote: »
    Change isn't always good, a bit more life experience will teach you that!

    I think on this occasion an exception is necessary to bring the force into the 21st century and more in line with other forces, as for life experience you are learning it every day of your life till you die.


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    #139
    Richard
    Registered Users Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭Richard


    I think they should wear blue shirts.


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    #140
    Kevin3
    Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Kevin3


    Mc Jakester wrote: »
    Need I say anymore, we are still 10 years behind the U.K.

    But here's what the lads are doing across the water !....

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOiFF7IJAs

    Special Constables have full police powers though. Garda Reserves are more similar to PCSOs in that they have very limited powers. Also Special Constables are completely unpaid while Garda Reserves recieve a yearly allowance.


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    #141
    Peppa Cig
    Registered Users Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Peppa Cig


    Kevin3 wrote: »
    Special Constables have full police powers though. Garda Reserves are more similar to PCSOs in that they have very limited powers. Also Special Constables are completely unpaid while Garda Reserves recieve a yearly allowance.

    Many constabularies pay/give allowances to Specials. Garda Reserves are attested with full powers as per the 2005 Act. The commissioner decides when to release particular powers.


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