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Labour Fianna Fail Coalition - Gilmore for Taoiseach - Could it happen ?

  • 26-02-2011 12:58pm
    #1
    CDfm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭


    Well the counts are underway.

    FG & Labour were at each others throats.

    Eamonn Gilmore has not hidden his ambition to be Taoiseach and FG have sounded out the Rainbow options already in an attempt to exclude them.

    FF & Labour already have done business at arms lenght via the Social Partnership and Croke Park Agreement.

    So with the counts underway - could it happen ???
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  • #2
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    No


  • #3
    noel farrell
    Registered Users Posts: 289 ✭✭noel farrell


    no


  • #4
    ei.sdraob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    Developers and unions running the country, again?

    dear god no :eek:


  • #5
    kev9100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭kev9100


    No. I want a Labour Taoiseach as much as anyone but FF are too toxic for anyone and I have a feeling Michael Martin would never go into coaliton as a junior partner.


  • #6
    Rubik.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rubik.


    The next Government is going to have a difficult enough job without making itself instantly hated by including FF in its numbers.


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  • #7
    Spudmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    It would take some neck for gilmore to go in with FF. Especially after all the anti-FF talk over the last 2 years. Anyone who goes in with FF would show just how power hungry they are.


  • #8
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    No and he better have more sense than Dick Spring who had similair ambitions in 1992.


  • #9
    Pal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    No thank you.


  • #10
    flash1080
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    Developers and unions running the country, again?

    dear god no :eek:

    If FG and Labour go form a coalition then that's what the people will get, developers and unions.


  • #11
    CDfm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Spudmonkey wrote: »
    It would take some neck for gilmore to go in with FF. Especially after all the anti-FF talk over the last 2 years. Anyone who goes in with FF would show just how power hungry they are.

    It would take some neck for Fine Gael to go into government with Labour.

    Fine Gael are Tories.

    So if Gilmore has the courage of his convictions and ambition to be the first Labour Taoiseach .

    Well then. It is possible.

    And they have done it before.


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  • #12
    Rubik.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rubik.


    They wouldn't have the numbers anyway. RTE's first prediction had Labour on 43 and FF 20. So they would need at least 20 more.


  • #13
    CDfm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    mike65 wrote: »
    No and he better have more sense than Dick Spring who had similair ambitions in 1992.

    Always the bridesmaid -never the bride.

    Surely Gilmore believes he and Labour can be top banana .

    And the count is on .

    What if Fine Gael do a minority government - they will not need Labour.


  • #14
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Rotating Taoiseach/Taoisigh? ;)


  • #15
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    CDfm wrote: »
    It would take some neck for Fine Gael to go into government with Labour.

    Fine Gael are Tories.

    So if Gilmore has the courage of his convictions and ambition to be the first Labour Taoiseach .

    Well then. It is possible.

    And they have done it before.
    FF coalitions have been disastrous for Labour , PD's and Greens in following elections.

    FG coalitions haven't been as bad for junior parties and in the same way that a candidates biggest enemy is their running mate, FG and Labour have been trying to distinguish themselves to attract floating votes. When the dust settles they'll do business with each other.

    The differences in policies on many issues are about horse trading on the exact % of cuts and VAT rates, not the nature of them.

    Remember politics is the art of the possible.


  • #16
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    No.

    FF happy to move to the opposition and let FG and Labour do their share of taking the pain or burden sharing as they will start to fall in the polls over time.


  • #17
    meglome
    Registered Users Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    Developers and unions running the country, again?

    dear god no :eek:

    This.


  • #18
    CDfm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Just watched RTE's round up of the constituencies.

    With the tally's is even the coallition with FG beyond Labours grasp.


  • #19
    Fr Tod Umptious
    Registered Users Posts: 14,988 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    The sums would not add up to create a gov without FG


  • #20
    CDfm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »
    The sums would not add up to create a gov without FG

    Will FG want to do business with Labour ??

    Would Enda Kenny get on with Eamonn Gilmore ??


  • #21
    deise blue
    Registered Users Posts: 666 ✭✭✭deise blue


    CDfm wrote: »
    Just watched RTE's round up of the constituencies.

    With the tally's is even the coallition with FG beyond Labours grasp.

    Why on earth would you think that ?

    A Labour/FG coalition is unbackable with Paddy Power - 1 to 33.


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  • #22
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,978 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I reckon 110 seats should be good enough for a government ;)


  • #23
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Yes.

    It will happen as soon as this fellow completes his flight training.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_WWbWBRV-c


  • #24
    CDfm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    deise blue wrote: »
    Why on earth would you think that ?

    A Labour/FG coalition is unbackable with Paddy Power - 1 to 33.

    I reckon the policies of FG & Labour are incompatable.

    FG in on their own - no real probs - but my own problem is that Labour will stand in the way of necessary changes.

    We will have the tail wagging the dog.

    With a coallition like this the ony place decisions are not made is openly on the floor of the Dail.


  • #25
    johngalway
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    FF/Lab won't have the numbers AFAIK.


  • #26
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    Developers and unions running the country, again?

    dear god no :eek:

    The developers rule the country already on the expense of the ordinary people already, so where is the change when FG rule the country on it's own? :mad:


  • #27
    CDfm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    The developers rule the country already on the expense of the ordinary people already, so where is the change when FG rule the country on it's own? :mad:

    That is not what John Bruton - Former FG Taoiseach said in January 2011. He said Civil Servants run the country
    Former taoiseach John Bruton claimed today that the Republic is run by civil servants who use TDs and senators to administer their rule.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0106/breaking44.html

    So what are FG going to do about it !!!!


  • #28
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    CDfm wrote: »
    That is not what John Bruton - Former FG Taoiseach said in January 2011. He said Civil Servants run the country



    So what are FG going to do about it !!!!

    I didn't quote or refer to John Bruton at all. That was my personal opinion ;)


  • #29
    CDfm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Its a genuine question - if that is the view of a senior Fine Gael member what are they going to do about it.

    It sets a benchmark against which I would judge them and they should judge themselves especially before entering coallition.

    Will they do that ?


  • #30
    johngalway
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    CDfm wrote: »
    So what are FG going to do about it !!!!

    Last I heard 30,000 positions were to go. A lot of needless quangos too.

    That not a start? Or should they be lined up agin' a wall and shot maybe?


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  • #31
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users Posts: 16,109 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    CDfm wrote: »
    So what are FG going to do about it !!!!

    We feel your frustration.


    Maybe Fine Gael should support a Fianna Fáil minority government? Though they could be pushed to fill a cabinet. Maybe Healy-Rae?


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