Gerry Adams to run for President ?

end a eknny · 15-05-2011 10:31pm

Corsendonk wrote: »

Anyone else like to see a younger running field for the role? Its starting to turn back into the gold watch retirement gig again. 7 year term so we might be throwing in a free state funeral as part of the package.

Gerry Adams 62
Michael D Higgins 70
David Norris 66
Pat Cox 58
John Bruton 63
Fergus Finlay 61
Mairead McGuinness 51
Sean Kelly 59
Sean Gallagher 48
Mary Davis 56
Jackie Healy-Rae 80
Mary White 66
Mammy O'Rourke 73
Brian Crowley 47

what age is the queen dont see the problem that you do

lugha · 15-05-2011 10:34pm

tayto lover wrote: »

What a bunch of losers. I couldn't vote for any of that lot although i don't know a lot about Mary Davis to be honest.

Finlay or Norris wouldn't be a bad choice IMO. And I'd take Bruton too. Maybe someone completely outside of party politics like John O Shea or Seamus Heaney might be worth a punt too.

joolsveer · 15-05-2011 10:37pm

I will be very disappointed in Bertie doesn't run. As a socialist republican he should be prepared to test the support of the electorate.

I don't think that age is a criterion which should rule any of the proposed candidates out.

end a eknny · 15-05-2011 10:37pm

lugha wrote: »

Finlay or Norris wouldn't be a bad choice IMO. And I'd take Bruton too. Maybe someone completely outside of party politics like John O Shea or Seamus Heaney might be worth a punt too.

whats with people sticking in this imo surely thats a bit pointless imo

PeterIanStaker · 15-05-2011 11:05pm

Norris definitely has my vote for the park, although if Jurry does die soon, lets give him a state funeral - just so we can laugh at the Myers/Harris/Cruiser disciples going into apoplectic fits of rage!

PARKHEAD67 · 15-05-2011 11:06pm

Knight990 wrote: »

I'd draw the line at having a terrorist as President, to be honest. It's bad enough that he's let be in the Dáil.

Okay, let the "traitor", "west brit" and related insults begin

A terrorist? Hmmmm..............Typical media driven waffle:rolleyes:

LordSutch · 15-05-2011 11:25pm

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

A terrorist? Hmmmm..............Typical media driven waffle:rolleyes:

Get your facts right matey before doing the auld 'eyes up' > Don't you remember the Provisional IRA? Don't you remember what they did? Dont you remember Adams refusing to condemn each and every atrocity carried out by them? Many people say that Adams himself was in the IRA, possibly even being their leader back in the 70s? either way, why would you want anybody connected to the PIRA to be your President

PARKHEAD67 · 15-05-2011 11:32pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Get your facts right matey before doing the auld 'eyes up' > Don't you remember the Provisional IRA? Don't you remember what they did? Dont you remember Adams refusing to condemn each and every atrocity carried out by them? Many people say that Adams himself was in the IRA, possibly even being their leader back in the 70s? either way, why would you want anybody connected to the PIRA to be your President

Dont you remember internment without trial? Dont you remember Bloody Sunday? Dont you remember the stitch up of the Birmingham 6? I dont condone the IRA but by Christ th3 Brits did a lot worse to a lot more countries.HYPOCRITES!!!!!!

LordSutch · 15-05-2011 11:35pm

Bloody Sunday you say, well yes thats one day out of thirty years!

But what about the PIRAs thirty year terrorist campaign? and the fact that Adams was an apologist for it? I mean, why would you want anybody connected to the IRA to be the President of this country? please answer the question.

lugha · 15-05-2011 11:36pm

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Dont you remember internment without trial? Dont you remember Bloody Sunday? Dont you remember the stitch up of the Birmingham 6? I dont condone the IRA but by Christ th3 Brits did a lot worse to a lot more countries.HYPOCRITS!!!!!!

Is anyone proposing that the "Brits" be considered for the park anytime soon?
Adams and his crew claimed to be acting on our behalf. That is why many of us retain reservations about him.

PARKHEAD67 · 15-05-2011 11:39pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Bloody Sunday you say, well yes thats one day out of thirty years!

But what about the PIRAs thirty year terrorist campaign? and the fact that Adams was an apologist for it? I mean, why would you want anybody connected to the IRA to be the President of this country? please answer the question.

That one day killed a lot of INNOCENT people.Sanctioned by the Brits .(A law onto themselves-but thats another story). It was a terrorist campaign by the brits. Read your history books buddy.;)

Knight990 · 15-05-2011 11:41pm

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Dont you remember internment without trial? Dont you remember Bloody Sunday? Dont you remember the stitch up of the Birmingham 6? I dont condone the IRA but by Christ th3 Brits did a lot worse to a lot more countries.HYPOCRITES!!!!!!

And look what "an eye for an eye" gave us for so many years.

PARKHEAD67 · 15-05-2011 11:44pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Bloody Sunday you say, well yes thats one day out of thirty years!
Very flippant.Im sure their loved ones would applaud you for that comment.

LordSutch · 15-05-2011 11:52pm

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Very flippant.Im sure their loved ones would applaud you for that comment.

You are avoiding answering the question Mr Parkhead!

PS; Have you ever seen a list of Bombings & Murders in the North? Bloody Sunday was but one awful day . . . . . . . .

PARKHEAD67 · 15-05-2011 11:58pm

LordSutch wrote: »

You are avoiding answering the question Mr Parkhead!

PS; Have you ever seen a list of Bombings & Murders in the North? Bloody Sunday was but one awful day . . . . . . . .

By an army .The British army!!! Acting on behalf of the monarchy or whatever the f ye call it.The IRA were an illegal organisation. What was done on bloody sunday was carried out by a "legal" organisation.(The brit army).A disgraceful mob who colluded with the loyalist paramiliteries and murdered many innocent Catholics. An army of shame akin to hitlers mob.

LordSutch · 15-05-2011 11:59pm

No, that's not the answer to the question Mr P.

PARKHEAD67 · 16-05-2011 12:00am

LordSutch wrote: »

No, that's not the answer to the question Mr P.

Sweep it under the carpet.Yere good at that.

LordSutch · 16-05-2011 12:03am

You have been asked time & time again why you would vote for Adams (with his terrorist past) to be our President, and you just won't, or can't answer! > Adams is a red herring anyway, there is no hope in hell that he would even be considered with his murky past.

PARKHEAD67 · 16-05-2011 12:09am

LordSutch wrote: »

You have been asked time & time again why you would vote for Adams (with his terrorist past) to be our President, and you just won't, or can't answer! > Adams is a red herring anyway, there is no hope in hell that he would even be considered with his murky past.

Ok. Ill tell you why. Because he and his party talk sense.The bull**** days of FF are gone (I hope).This terrorist past thing is pure media-driven tripe. The man stood up for his people when they were being opressed.Martin Luther King was the black mans saviour in the states. Gerry was the Catholics saviour in the illegaly occupied 6 counties.;)

washman3 · 16-05-2011 12:36am

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I don't think there's enough of those people. Sinn Fein have less than 10% of the seats in the Dail. If people in the north could vote would be a different story though[/QUOTE]

And therein lies the crux of the problem with the election of an Irish president, the political parties should have absolutely no say in who should be president, remember the position is supposed to be above politics, for too long the Aras has been a retirement home for party favourites,or put another way, yes men and nodding dogs.! McAleese excluded. time has come to judge candidates on their merits and visions.
i am not a SF supporter but that was a powerful statement from Adams and would not have a problem with him as president.
A few weeks ago the Kazak leader (dictator) who has committed terrible atrocities against his own people was feted,wined and dined and received a standing ovation when he addressed the European parliment. Few people in Ireland or Europe complained.

rounding tattenham Corner · 16-05-2011 1:04am

wow i've been reading this tread, some strange ideas from the parkhead fellow, going by his username he must be upset at the Gers winning the title yesterday so has not got control of all his emotions.

I would love to see Gerry Adams run so he can be soundly put in his place by the usually silent majority of ireland which has always rejected murderess terrorism.

off topic but the role of president is a very silly role which should be abolished,

PARKHEAD67 · 16-05-2011 1:10am

rounding tattenham Corner wrote: »

wow i've been reading this tread, some strange ideas from the parkhead fellow, going by his username he must be upset at the Gers winning the title yesterday so has not got control of all his emotions.

I would love to see Gerry Adams run so he can be soundly put in his place by the usually silent majority of ireland which has always rejected murderess terrorism.

off topic but the role of president is a very silly role which should be abolished,

Ok. Parkhead fellow here with my "strange" ideas. Do elaborate. I dont understand what you dont understand. Help me to help you.:)

PARKHEAD67 · 16-05-2011 1:13am

off topic but the role of president is a very silly role which should be abolished,[/QUOTE]
I agree.

PARKHEAD67 · 16-05-2011 1:17am

rounding tattenham Corner wrote: »

wow i've been reading this tread, some strange ideas from the parkhead fellow, going by his username he must be upset at the Gers winning the title yesterday so has not got control of all his emotions.

The "gers" you call em. I call em a bigoted disgraceful institution(Theyd put hitlers mob to shame with their anti-catholic policies):D.Just my opinion.:)im catholic by the way.Google Rangers f.c..............A disgrace.Dont get me started.Bigots.

later12 · 16-05-2011 3:00am

Corsendonk wrote: »

Anyone else like to see a younger running field for the role? Its starting to turn back into the gold watch retirement gig again. 7 year term so we might be throwing in a free state funeral as part of the package.

Gerry Adams 62
Michael D Higgins 70
David Norris 66
Pat Cox 58
John Bruton 63
Fergus Finlay 61
Mairead McGuinness 51
Sean Kelly 59
Sean Gallagher 48
Mary Davis 56
Jackie Healy-Rae 80
Mary White 66
Mammy O'Rourke 73
Brian Crowley 47

Mean age there is 61, and so is the median. The average age for the Dail in 2007 (no data available on 2011) was 50. Given that the Presidency is a national role whose candidates typically (hopefully) have proven themselves in other fields before coming to the presidential process, 61 is not a particularly elderly average (nor median) for your sample. The mode of the sample is 66, but again this may reflect in the sample of interested personalities the nature of the office which is anticipated by many to carry political experience, gravitas and dignity, attributes often associated with old age.

Still, it's a far cry from the median age of the Irish population, which is about 34, by far the youngest in the E.U.

Einhard · 16-05-2011 3:39am

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

Dont you remember internment without trial? Dont you remember Bloody Sunday? Dont you remember the stitch up of the Birmingham 6? I dont condone the IRA but by Christ th3 Brits did a lot worse to a lot more countries.HYPOCRITES!!!!!!

Which is why we won't be electing Maggie Thatcher as next president...

Are you seriously suggesting that, because the Brtis committed atrocities, IRA atrocities are somehow acceptable?!

At the very least, Gerry Adams condoned the murder of innocent men, women and children, and very likely actively participated in the planning of such. The man has blood on his hands.

angelfire9 · 16-05-2011 6:22am

I'd rather see Dustin the turkey or God help us Jedward running for president than Gerry Adams!

Comparing Adams and the IRA to the British armed forces is completely irrelevant to a discussion on the Irish presidency because while Adams may get nominated for the role a member of the British Armed forced will not, nor would they want to be I would imagine!

I'd love to know the average age of the people who say they "lived through the troubles"
People aged 30+ who have lived through the troubles both north & south would view things with less of a rosy tint on their glasses I would think

In the north, the IRA were responsible for punishment beatings and intimidation in "their own" Catholic neighbourhoods
They planted the bomb in Enniskillen that killed and maimed both Catholics & Protestants
Their successors planted the bomb in Omagh

On the British mainland the IRA killed and maimed innocent civilians in London, Warrington, Bristol, Brighton & Manchester and those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head

In the south, the IRA were kidnappers & thieves
Don Tidey & Ben Dunne were both kidnapped to fund IRA activities
In rescuing Don Tidey the IRA killed an Irish Army officer & a Garda recruit on Irish soil in County Leitrim

Let us not forget the murder of another Garda carried out by the IRA in Adare in Limerick which is fairly far south of the border!

These were all campaigns organised by Mr. Adams & his ilk
Gerry Adams failed to condemn these atrocities and indeed he campaigned vigorously for the release of Jerry Mc Cabe's killers under the Good Friday agreement

Gerry Adams has blood on his hands

He no more deserves to be president of Ireland than George Bush does!!

KeithAFC · 16-05-2011 7:44am

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I hope he does run, and I hope people in the north gt to have a say in who is president of Ireland.

I live on the island and he will never be my president. I would resist that until the day i die. That is all we can do.

end a eknny · 16-05-2011 8:38am

KeithAFC wrote: »

I live on the island and he will never be my president. I would resist that until the day i die. That is all we can do.

surely this is the first time you have ever admitted that ireland is an island united and whole i congratulate you keith that was a big step. given time you might be able to see that gerry adams was a brave man who risked his life and is still doing so to rid this country of the inequality and corruption brought about by unionist bigots backed up by british army violence and when the time was right he encouraged the brave soliders of the ira who had fought bravely against the british army terrorists and the british and irish goverment propagada that the time was right to end the war that a united ireland could now be achieved by peaceful means. as for the british terrorists well they have moved on they are killing innocent men women and children in iraq, afghanistan and libyia

KeithAFC · 16-05-2011 8:53am

end a eknny wrote: »

surely this is the first time you have ever admitted that ireland is an island united and whole i congratulate you keith that was a big step. given time you might be able to see that gerry adams was a brave man who risked his life and is still doing so to rid this country of the inequality and corruption brought about by unionist bigots backed up by british army violence and when the time was right he encouraged the brave soliders of the ira who had fought bravely against the british army terrorists and the british and irish goverment propagada that the time was right to end the war that a united ireland could now be achieved by peaceful means. as for the british terrorists well they have moved on they are killing innocent men women and children in iraq, afghanistan and libyia

Perhaps you should read. Its one island but not one country. And if people in N.I did vote, i would not vote anyway and he could hardly be called the president of the loyalist people.

Gerry Adams to run for President ?

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