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Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

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  • #3812
    Sinbad_NI
    Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭Sinbad_NI


    Will be good to have a proper backup/competition at 10 next year. Still can't believe NOC was brought back this year.

    Great to have so much talent coming through, hopefully some more forwards in the pipeline too?


  • #3813
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Sinbad_NI wrote: »
    Great to have so much talent coming through, hopefully some more forwards in the pipeline too?
    I don't think there many that said the pack as a whole is relatively young.

    Court (32) Brady(33) Muller(32) Wilson(31) and Best(30) are the only forwards in the squad over 30. By the way Paddy Wallace (33) is the only back in the squad over.

    Hooker looks like the position where Ulster most need to bring someone through in the medium term. Seeing no real prospect in the system Ulster brought in Irish Qualified South African Rob Herring (23) last summer who has already become second choice Hooker. Hopefully he stays in Ulster long term rather than going back to South Africa.


  • #3814
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    What about Annett? Anscombe is giving him more and more time.


  • #3815
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    What about Annett? Anscombe is giving him more and more time.
    I'll admit that I don't really rate him and I think that Anscombe is giving him 10-20 minute cameos just because there needs to be someone with experience as 3rd choice when Brady retires (probably at the end of the season) and Anscombe can't (Doesn't want to) get an NIQ in to be 3rd choice.

    Personally I would have Casey, Rael and Scannell, all from the Munster academy ahead of him.

    That said it would be great if he comes through.


  • #3816
    the_doctor199
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    Fridays game is live on BBC website, nowhere else this week.


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  • #3817
    Sinbad_NI
    Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭Sinbad_NI


    the_doctor199 wrote: »
    Fridays game is live on BBC website, nowhere else this week.

    It's it def on there, can't see it mentioned.


  • #3818
    Sinbad_NI
    Registered Users Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭Sinbad_NI


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    I don't think there many that said the pack as a whole is relatively young.

    Court (32) Brady(33) Muller(32) Wilson(31) and Best(30) are the only forwards in the squad over 30. By the way Paddy Wallace (33) is the only back in the squad over.

    Hooker looks like the position where Ulster most need to bring someone through in the medium term. Seeing no real prospect in the system Ulster brought in Irish Qualified South African Rob Herring (23) last summer who has already become second choice Hooker. Hopefully he stays in Ulster long term rather than going back to South Africa.

    Thinking more about when Muller, Afoa and Williams leave, big boots to fill, especially that crucial #3


  • #3819
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,283 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It's not listed on the BBC schedule for Friday night, either 1 or 2. Weird, I'm pretty sure they've covered every game this season home and away, not sure why they'd miss this one?


  • #3820
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    awec wrote: »
    It's not listed on the BBC schedule for Friday night, either 1 or 2. Weird, I'm pretty sure they've covered every game this season home and away, not sure why they'd miss this one?
    internet only apparently

    One of the treviso games was like that too
    Sinbad_NI wrote: »
    Thinking more about when Muller, Afoa and Williams leave, big boots to fill, especially that crucial #3
    Good partnership at lock between Tuohy and Stevenson, will need a backup option though or move Henderson to the row but if you do you need someone in the backrow.

    In Wilson and Williams Ulster have two short run number 8s. A replacement is needed but to be honest I don't see one in the system at the moment.

    As to replacing Afoa, well thats a crapshoot. Macklin has looked like he has potential, but his season was wrecked by injury for the second season in a row. Could be another Fitzpatrick.


  • #3821
    Wexfordboy89
    Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭Wexfordboy89


    just wondering who won the ulster schools cup after had to go off didnt get to see the whole game MCB were winning the last i saw it.


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  • #3822
    awec
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    internet only apparently

    One of the treviso games was like that too


    Good partnership at lock between Tuohy and Stevenson, will need a backup option though or move Henderson to the row but if you do you need someone in the backrow.

    In Wilson and Williams Ulster have two short run number 8s. A replacement is needed but to be honest I don't see one in the system at the moment.

    As to replacing Afoa, well thats a crapshoot. Macklin has looked like he has potential, but his season was wrecked by injury for the second season in a row. Could be another Fitzpatrick.

    We don't have anyone at the moment who is the pedigree of Afoa IMO. That is a major worry.

    He's the best TH in the country by some distance to be honest, we really are poor at bringing through players in this positon.
    Wexfordboy89 wrote: »
    just wondering who won the ulster schools cup after had to go off didnt get to see the whole game MCB were winning the last i saw it.

    Methody won.


  • #3823
    decisions
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭decisions


    Why don't they put it on the red button like they did with one of the games earlier in the season?


  • #3824
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,771 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    awec wrote: »
    We don't have anyone at the moment who is the pedigree of Afoa IMO. That is a major worry.

    He's the best TH in the country by some distance to be honest, we really are poor at bringing through players in this positon.



    Methody won.

    To be honest there are very few teams out there with someone of the pedigree of Afoa.

    Cheque book will have to be produced when he decides to head back to NZ.


  • #3825
    Utah_Saint
    Registered Users Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Utah_Saint


    i may be completely off the mark but i think olding has many of the qualities required of a 13. Keep Marshall at 12 and push olding out to 13. When I watch him play he has 'young BOD' like qualities to his movement and running....


  • #3826
    sixy
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭sixy


    Utah_Saint wrote: »
    i may be completely off the mark but i think olding has many of the qualities required of a 13. Keep Marshall at 12 and push olding out to 13. When I watch him play he has 'young BOD' like qualities to his movement and running....

    Think he could be good at 13 as well


  • #3827
    the_doctor199
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭the_doctor199


    Sinbad_NI wrote: »
    It's it def on there, can't see it mentioned.

    That info came from Stephen Watson.

    Update on injury news..
    Iain Henderson is the latest injury worry for Ulster ahead of the Heineken Cup quarter-final against Saracens.
    The young forward suffered ligament damage to his foot after coming on as a replacement for Luke Fitzgerald during Ireland's Six Nations defeat by Italy.
    With fellow blindside flanker Stephen Ferris already ruled out for the season, Henderson's absence would be a major blow for coach Mark Anscombe.
    Centre Luke Marshall also faces a race to be fit for the game with Saracens.
    Marshall was forced to come off with concussion for the second game in succession during the defeat in Rome.
    The inside centre sustained the problem in a clash of heads with Ulster team-mate Paddy Jackson.
    Tight-head prop Declan Fitzpatrick was also injured while on Ireland duty, while Chris Henry is recovering after undergoing surgery on a knee injury.
    Roger Wilson is recovering from injury and captain Johann Muller is expected to be fit for the big European tie at Twickenham on 6 April.
    Another long-term absentee, Jared Payne, is set to make his return to action in Friday's Pro12 game against Edinburgh, along with back row Nick Williams.


  • #3828
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,283 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Muller, Williams and Payne all in the squad for Friday:

    Forwards (14)

    Neil McComb, Callum Black, John Afoa, Robbie Diack, Mike McComish, Dan Tuohy, Lewis Stevenson, Johann Muller, Nick Williams, Rob Herring, Niall Annett, Ricky Lutton, Tom Court, Nigel Brady

    Backs (11)

    Ricky Andrew, Jared Payne, Michael Allen, Paul Marshall, Peter Nelson, Michael Heaney, Paddy Jackson, Stuart Olding, Darren Cave, Andrew Trimble, Niall O’Connor


    ETA: No Pienaar.


  • #3829
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    From what I heard yesterday Hendo is defo out of the QF but Marshall will be ok but wont be allowed to play before.


  • #3830
    rchendz92
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭rchendz92


    bilston wrote: »
    From what I heard yesterday Hendo is defo out of the QF but Marshall will be ok but wont be allowed to play before.

    Argh, when will it end? I can't believe the luck Ireland and her provinces are having with injuries at the moment.


  • #3831
    shuffol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    rchendz92 wrote: »
    Argh, when will it end? I can't believe the luck Ireland and her provinces are having with injuries at the moment.

    I blame Ulster, they started it and spread it to the national side, now looks like they may have cost a good man his job over it, hope your all very pleased with yourselves.


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  • #3832
    rchendz92
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭rchendz92


    shuffol wrote: »
    I blame Ulster, they started it and spread it to the national side, now looks like they may have cost a good man his job over it, hope your all very pleased with yourselves.

    If it got rid of Kidney, surely it was all for the greater good :pac:


  • #3833
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,601 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Trimble has signed a new two year contract with Ireland/Ulster.

    http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/11296.php


  • #3834
    shuffol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭shuffol


    rchendz92 wrote: »
    If it got rid of Kidney, surely it was all for the greater good :pac:

    I've heard of taking one for the team but this taking the team to get rid of one is new to me:D


  • #3835
    Fooker
    Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Fooker


    Clegg wrote: »
    Trimble has signed a new two year contract with Ireland/Ulster.

    http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/11296.php

    Certainly well deserved on Ulster form. But it is a bit surprising, especially with Gilroy and Bowe signed up already for a few years.


  • #3836
    Clegg
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    I'm more surprised that he's signed a central contract.

    He's hardly a starter for Ireland and was sixth choice wing for this seasons 6 Nations.

    Seems like a waste of a contract to me.


  • #3837
    Beery Eyed
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    Utah_Saint wrote: »
    i may be completely off the mark but i think olding has many of the qualities required of a 13. Keep Marshall at 12 and push olding out to 13. When I watch him play he has 'young BOD' like qualities to his movement and running....

    He could well become a good 13 if he is developed there. He certainly has the attributes and has played 10,12 & 15 which are also good indicators that he has the skill, vision & pace for the position. 13 is becoming an increasingly difficult & exposed position at the top level though so it's hard to tell yet if he could make the transition.

    Speaking of this subject, I'm also yet to see any indicator that would rule out Marshall as an excellent 13. He has a great break & acceleration, he's a very good defender and even had a couple of good turnovers during the 6N. I know he's primarily a 12, with some experience at 10, but I can't see why he wouldn't be seen as a potential 13.


  • #3838
    awec
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    Surprised to see him get a central contract, but good news!


  • #3839
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Clegg wrote: »
    Trimble has signed a new two year contract with Ireland/Ulster.

    http://www.ulsterrugby.com/news/11296.php

    Central contract for Trimble while Zebo, Gilroy, Fitzgerald and McFadden, all of whom are ahead of him in the pecking order don't have central contracts

    Seems a little funny to me. Ah well best of luck to him and I'm glad he is staying with Ulster


  • #3840
    ssaye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Central contract for Trimble while Zebo, Gilroy, Fitzgerald and McFadden, all of whom are ahead of him in the pecking order don't have central contracts

    Seems a little funny to me. Ah well best of luck to him and I'm glad he is staying with Ulster

    Dont try to make sense of the CC's, they make none.

    Fair play to Trimble, his Ulster form has been really excellent.

    8 tries in all comps to Gilroys 2


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  • #3841
    Utah_Saint
    Registered Users Posts: 1,775 ✭✭✭Utah_Saint


    Beery Eyed wrote: »
    He could well become a good 13 if he is developed there. He certainly has the attributes and has played 10,12 & 15 which are also good indicators that he has the skill, vision & pace for the position. 13 is becoming an increasingly difficult & exposed position at the top level though so it's hard to tell yet if he could make the transition.

    Speaking of this subject, I'm also yet to see any indicator that would rule out Marshall as an excellent 13. He has a great break & acceleration, he's a very good defender and even had a couple of good turnovers during the 6N. I know he's primarily a 12, with some experience at 10, but I can't see why he wouldn't be seen as a potential 13.


    I think Marshall could do a job at 13 but for him to get the experience there it will involve Cave moving on... Olding/Marshall centre partnership sounds great - although it will be a good few years off.


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