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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Ok expand a bit just to make my life easy and give people something to discuss. Oh yeah ... and give your own opinion to top it off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭themetallifan


    What about it????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    espinolman wrote: »
    It's really in your face here :

    http://www.rockfound.org/

    see that !

    :rolleyes:


    Look at that grants to help rebuild new orleans, help cities prepare for climate change. Grants they give out.

    What a bunch of a utter bastards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Well see how the illuminati control the world through non-governmental organisations , such as foundations .
    Now did you see all that about climate-change in that link i gave in the OP , well guess what , they manipulating and control the climate , see here :
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/weacontrolbychossudovsky2000.shtml
    and then they blame us on it and say we have to 'change' , see how we are manipulated !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Diogenes wrote: »
    Look at that grants to help rebuild new orleans, help cities prepare for climate change.
    Climate change that they engineer.
    Diogenes wrote: »
    Grants they give out.
    Yea , grants they give out to gain control .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    espinolman wrote: »
    Climate change that they engineer.

    And you have proof that a complex global weather control system system exists.
    Yea , grants they give out to gain control .

    I donate to Amnesty, Oxfam and a couple of other charities am I trying to "gain control" over the world?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    Diogenes wrote: »
    And you have proof that a complex global weather control system system exists.

    http://www.abbaswatchman.com/Hurricane%20Katrina%20and%20Wilma.htm

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n2011.cfm

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    espinolman wrote: »


    I'm devastationingly impressed by a weather manipulation system that is mentioned in the bible, can control thoughts, and provide visible evidence 3,000 miles away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭espinolman


    The new world order control the weather :

    YouTube - Weather Control for New World Order?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvSbOnwnQ8


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭tony 2 tone


    Diogenes wrote: »
    I donate to Amnesty, Oxfam and a couple of other charities am I trying to "gain control" over the world?

    Oh no! Now they have your details, probably got your finger prints and DNA off any change you ever put in a collection bucket.
    Those little stickers they give you when you donate, impregnated with nano machines, MSG and "flouride" to control your mind! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    espinolman wrote: »
    The new world order control the weather :

    YouTube - Weather Control for New World Order?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvSbOnwnQ8


    Could you answer three questions.

    A) Who are these people, and what are their specific qualifications, positions, and the context of the questions.

    B) When and where did this take place.

    C) If the NWO control the weather, and are using this to secretly control humanity, why are they publically admitting it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    espinolman wrote: »
    the illuminati control the world
    ...
    and say we have to 'change' , see how we are manipulated !


    If they control the world, why do they need us to change?

    Doesn't the idea that they need to con us into changing mean that they don't control as much as one might think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭mickeydevine


    Naive/complicete, delete as appropriate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,268 ✭✭✭DubTony


    and if when he'd said this
    Diogenes wrote: »
    Look at that grants to help rebuild new orleans, help cities prepare for climate change. Grants they give out.

    What a bunch of a utter bastards.

    the reply had been more of a "yeah, what a bunch of c*nts", there'd have been nothing more to say and the serial debater would be actually lost for words. Imagine that. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭ilivetolearn


    bonkey wrote: »
    If they control the world, why do they need us to change?

    Doesn't the idea that they need to con us into changing mean that they don't control as much as one might think?

    In direct hypothetical context of this post rather than the OP itself I'd like to point out that conspiracy theorists in this regard don't regard the elites acquisition of power in such a binary and rudimentary manner.

    bonkey's post submits the notion that the elite either have the power or they simply they do not. This omits a transitionary variable. Many conspiracy theorists will vouch for the fact that the elite have some power and simply wish to attain more. To do this incrementally they need implement their mechanisms of control gradually over time. Unfortunately for them there exists no on/off switch that endows them absolute control or absolute lack of control.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    In direct hypothetical context of this post rather than the OP itself I'd like to point out that conspiracy theorists in this regard don't regard the elites acquisition of power in such a binary and rudimentary manner.

    bonkey's post submits the notion that the elite either have the power or they simply they do not. This omits a transitionary variable. Many conspiracy theorists will vouch for the fact that the elite have some power and simply wish to attain more. To do this incrementally they need implement their mechanisms of control gradually over time. Unfortunately for them there exists no on/off switch that endows them absolute control or absolute lack of control.

    Unfortunately your problem is this, according to conspiracy theorists that at certain times, and over certain industires, the elites have absolute control. For example we're consistentally told that these elites "control" the main stream media, yet the self same posters often post articles to support their position from the self same media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 214 ✭✭ilivetolearn


    Diogenes wrote: »
    Unfortunately your problem is this,

    I (the poster) don't have a problem.

    Surely you were referring to a discrepancy with my post? I'll get back to you when you draw a distinction on whom or what it is your addressing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    In direct hypothetical context of this post rather than the OP itself I'd like to point out that conspiracy theorists in this regard don't regard the elites acquisition of power in such a binary and rudimentary manner.

    I would point you at the quote I was responding to....the assertion that the illiumanti control the world.
    bonkey's post submits the notion that the elite either have the power or they simply they do not.
    No, espinolman submitted the notion that they have the power. I merely asked how that can be the case, if their actions suggest otherwise. In short, I was suggesting that the position cannot be a binary one - that the assertion that the illuminati "control the world" has to be an oversimplification, if not downright false.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    I (the poster) don't have a problem.

    Surely you were referring to a discrepancy with my post? I'll get back to you when you draw a distinction on whom or what it is your addressing.

    I'm sorry you're trying to draw the debate into semantics, again. Your post said;
    Many conspiracy theorists

    You're refering to "conspiracy theorists" in the abstract. Several posters on this forum would consider themselves as such, I was applying your point to some of the claims that have been made by posters on this forum.


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