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Fiscal Treaty Megathread [Poll Reset]

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  • #1742
    Ironé
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭Ironé


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    so what do you think of the yes vote getting through?is it a good or bad thing,i would like to know what you boardsies make of it..

    A necessary step really. Hopefully it will end up being a good thing but I think it was our only option.


  • #1743
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,057 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Fabi05 wrote: »
    There is growing concern about possibility that it was indeed rigged. The Euronews 60/40 before boxes were opened has raised questions. Pencils used instead of biro and no Gardai at polling stations.

    The reason pencils are used instead of pens is because a special type of paper is used for the ballot slips (which show any attempts at 'rubbing out' votes), and during the 6 month mandatory storage period, ink can damage the slips.

    There's nothing at all stopping people from bringing along their own pen or marker. I've done so since I started voting.


  • #1744
    Battered Mars Bar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Battered Mars Bar


    gurramok wrote: »
    Bitter are we? The silent majority have spoken by voting yes in the referendum and by paying the household charge where eligible.

    "and by paying the household charge where eligible"     eh, what? :confused:

    The majority spoke in Lisbon 1 too, dear oh dear what short memories people have. I remember the yes voters in Lisbon 1 squealing like piglets when they lost.


  • #1745
    christmas2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    when they got the no vote they just put up the vote to us again,and they would have done that if they got a no vote this time..


  • #1746
    Ironé
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭Ironé


    christmas2012 wrote: »
    when they got the no vote they just put up the vote to us again,and they would have done that if they got a no vote this time..

    I read somewhere that the EU weren't depending us on accepting this - we were either in or we were out. So for that reason it would probably have only been put to us once - well there wouldn't have been the same pressure to get a yes vote.


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  • #1747
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,061 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Fabi05 wrote: »
    There is growing concern about possibility that it was indeed rigged. The Euronews 60/40 before boxes were opened has raised questions. Pencils used instead of biro and no Gardai at polling stations.
    Oh good christ. You cannot be in earnest?
    DB10 wrote: »
    Sadly money runs the world these days.
    When did it not?
    I feel sorry for the true Irish down there
    The "true Irish"? Going by your description the true Irish are either in menial jobs, because if you're a college graduate you're "upper class" and "rich". Or the True Irish are on the dole. Oh and the true Irish are broke. Well done, you've just resurrected the 19th century English caricature of us. No doubt your political allegiances hove more towards the Sinn Fein end of the spectrum so the irony is doubly delicious.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • #1748
    NinjaK
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭NinjaK


    Well done, gave away more sovereignty to the EU:rolleyes:


  • #1749
    Min
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Fabi05 wrote: »
    There is growing concern about possibility that it was indeed rigged. The Euronews 60/40 before boxes were opened has raised questions. Pencils used instead of biro and no Gardai at polling stations.

    Yeah all those polling companies which were saying their results showed it would be 60/40 in favour of yes were part of this conspiracy too...

    Euronews reported what the expected result was going to be.

    No was always in the minority.


  • #1750
    De Dannan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 486 ✭✭De Dannan


    World stock markets down sharply today. Our little referendum hasnt been noticed. we are involved in a much bigger game, and a euro thats going down the toilet fast :(


  • #1751
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    De Dannan wrote: »
    World stock markets down sharply today. Our little referendum hasnt been noticed. we are involved in a much bigger game, and a euro thats going down the toilet fast :(

    Ah yes, but we're now a central part of that euro that's going down the toilet fast! Woohoooo!!!


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  • #1752
    gurramok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Ah yes, but we're now a central part of that euro that's going down the toilet fast! Woohoooo!!!

    Still believe that the majority were brainwashed?:rolleyes:
    gerryo777 wrote:
    I'd wager you paid up on the household tax too. It's called brainwashing and it works (on some people)


  • #1753
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    gurramok wrote: »
    Still believe that the majority were brainwashed?:rolleyes:

    Ah yes, a yes vote for stability and jobs.

    It's working already.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0601/450-job-losses-announced-at-iarnrod-eireann.html


  • #1754
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Ah yes, a yes vote for stability and jobs.

    It's working already.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0601/450-job-losses-announced-at-iarnrod-eireann.html

    Not to be naive and obviously the job losses are awful.

    But it can be clear to people that perhaps IE have too many employees. Ever pass on a train and see 10 lads looking at one set of points.

    It's the problem with capitalism that things need to get back in line.

    It will be tough for the workers, lets hope there are other companies out there ready to hire them.


  • #1755
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Fabi05 wrote: »
    There is growing concern about possibility that it was indeed rigged. The Euronews 60/40 before boxes were opened has raised questions. Pencils used instead of biro and no Gardai at polling stations.
    It was a fupping exit poll that FG commissioned.


  • #1756
    DB10
    Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    The young people of this country have been let down by ageist and thuggery by successive governments in silencing them.

    Just look at the brutal assaults against protestors in Corrib or the students who dare question the Assad Kenny regime.

    Elections on thursdays to make sure the young don't have a voice. Reduced jobseekers allowance to only 100 quid a week for under 25 year olds, while the older get 188 euros a week, nearly double what the young people are entitled to.

    Is it any wonder half the country under 30 have emigrated from this ****ehole.

    Maybe next ethnic minorities will get less dole than the rest. I'm sure Kenny has thought about it. Wouldnt get away with it though lucky enough.

    FG/FF hate young people. Because they can.


  • #1757
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Weathercheck wrote: »
    Not to be naive and obviously the job losses are awful.

    But it can be clear to people that perhaps IE have too many employees. Ever pass on a train and see 10 lads looking at one set of points.

    It's the problem with capitalism that things need to get back in line.

    It will be tough for the workers, lets hope there are other companies out there ready to hire them.

    Now, you know what happens with capitalism in Ireland, if a private business is failed/bust/bankrupt, get the taxpayers to pump billions into it to keep it limping along and not functioning properly.

    Capitalism, Paddy style!


  • #1758
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Ah yes, a yes vote for stability and jobs.

    It's working already.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0601/450-job-losses-announced-at-iarnrod-eireann.html



    Hang on, aren't you always moaning about the CPA and how public sector haven't been hit hard enough?


    DB10 wrote: »
    The young people of this country have been let down by ageist and thuggery by successive governments in silencing them.

    Just look at the brutal assaults against protestors in Corrib or the students who dare question the Assad Kenny regime.

    Elections on thursdays to make sure the young don't have a voice. Reduced jobseekers allowance to only 100 quid a week for under 25 year olds, while the older get 188 euros a week, nearly double what the young people are entitled to.

    Is it any wonder half the country under 30 have emigrated from this ****ehole.

    Maybe next ethnic minorities will get less dole than the rest. I'm sure Kenny has thought about it. Wouldnt get away with it though lucky enough.

    FG/FF hate young people. Because they can.


    Young people are allowed vote on Thursday, it's not against the law you know.


  • #1759
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Hang on, aren't you always moaning about the CPA and how public sector haven't been hit hard enough?

    Hardly my point now chuck, was it?


  • #1760
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Ah yes, a yes vote for stability and jobs.

    It's working already.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0601/450-job-losses-announced-at-iarnrod-eireann.html
    I worry for you Gerry if you think those job losses are in any way connected to the referendum results.


  • #1761
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    DB10 wrote: »
    The young people of this country have been let down by ageist and thuggery by successive governments in silencing them.

    Just look at the brutal assaults against protestors in Corrib or the students who dare question the Assad Kenny regime.

    Elections on thursdays to make sure the young don't have a voice. Reduced jobseekers allowance to only 100 quid a week for under 25 year olds, while the older get 188 euros a week, nearly double what the young people are entitled to.

    Is it any wonder half the country under 30 have emigrated from this ****ehole.

    Maybe next ethnic minorities will get less dole than the rest. I'm sure Kenny has thought about it. Wouldnt get away with it though lucky enough.

    FG/FF hate young people. Because they can.
    Bravo!! Best laugh I've had in a long long time.


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  • #1762
    DB10
    Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Hang on, aren't you always moaning about the CPA and how public sector haven't been hit hard enough?






    Young people are allowed vote on Thursday, it's not against the law you know.
    The students are normally away at college.

    They are the most radical, we should be embracing our youth.

    Instead we silence them and ship them off to Australia or into prison. Its no wonder so many young males have anger issues, the way this country is going they have a very bleak future.

    Crime is rising all over. The night is darkest before the dawn. The rising will happen soon hopefully.


  • #1763
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Hardly my point now chuck, was it?



    Have a bitch when the government doesn't cut jobs in the PS, have a bitch when they do. lol.

    DB10 wrote: »
    The students are normally away at college.

    They are the most radical, we should be embracing our youth.

    Instead we silence them and ship them off to Australia or into prison. Its no wonder so many young males have anger issues, the way this country is going they have a very bleak future.

    Crime is rising all over. The night is darkest before the dawn. The rising will happen soon hopefully.

    College is over now, so still why such a low turn-out? also, nothing stopping students registering where they attend college. Well, except lazyness.


  • #1764
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    I worry for you Gerry if you think those job losses are in any way connected to the referendum results.

    It's just funny that on the day we voted yes after listening to weeks of kenny and gilmore going on about 'a yes vote bringing stability and protecting jobs' that the first headline after the result is announced is the loss of 450 jobs in a state monopoly.

    I know the two aren't connected but the timing couldn't be more comical.

    Thank you for your concern!


  • #1765
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Hardly my point now chuck, was it?
    You didn't have a point; you had a whinge.


  • #1766
    Doc Ruby
    Registered Users Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Doc Ruby


    DB10 wrote: »
    FG/FF hate young people. Because they can.
    No, because young people don't bother voting. Its not cool enough or something.

    Simples.


  • #1767
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    Have a bitch when the government doesn't cut jobs in the PS, have a bitch when they do. lol.




    Either way it costs me...


  • #1768
    DB10
    Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    vote yes for jobs

    until voting closes. lol might as well have kenny cunningham as taoiseach


  • #1769
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    You didn't have a point; you had a whinge.

    Was that why you were worried about me?
    Thanks again.;)


  • #1770
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    DB10 wrote: »
    The students are normally away at college.

    They are the most radical, we should be embracing our youth.

    Instead we silence them and ship them off to Australia or into prison. Its no wonder so many young males have anger issues, the way this country is going they have a very bleak future.

    Crime is rising all over. The night is darkest before the dawn. The rising will happen soon hopefully.


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  • #1771
    DB10
    Site Banned Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭DB10


    i worry for the future of this country seeing posters here. the youth of today is being slowly eliminated. we need these people for the future of the country.


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