Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

Azza · 26-02-2010 8:43pm

I spent a while testing it with Bison, Cammy doing TKCS and trying to hit it with cr.lk.

Could not get once, and as far as I recall I can never remember doing it to you in any match we played.

On the other hand I could quite easily beat on start upwith c.lp, which hits higher.

But I'm 90% certain TKCS is airborne for its whole startup duration and will beat crouch teching.

Its possible people with a bigger hitbox on there cr.lk could hit her though.

Just tested it and Guile can hit her out of both TKCS and Ex.Cannon Strike so it looks like its match up dependent. His c.lk hit higher than Bisons.

Cobelcog · 26-02-2010 8:53pm

Didn't see the edit on Guile there. So it does depend on varying cr.lk heights. I'm pretty sure Balrog's cr.lk works as well. Interesting, thanks. I'll have to work out who it does and who it doesn't work against then.

Yreval · 26-02-2010 9:45pm

http://www.hadoken.net/?p=1306

Interview with Seth Killian.

Azza · 26-02-2010 9:53pm

When I said Guiles c.lk hits ex.cannon spike, I mean it only does if its performed on the ground. An airborne version will beat c.lk from anyone.

Cobelcog · 26-02-2010 10:07pm

I know

bush · 27-02-2010 12:54am

The game is now finished so hopefully we will hear more about the tweaks to old characters soon.

Azza · 27-02-2010 2:03am

Yeah fingers crossed for a lk scissor kick buff :P

I know deep down its what you all want!

Xinkai · 27-02-2010 2:19am

Sakura's fireball goes full screen, AND she gets a cross up!? Bitch got spoiled!!! She must've come of age!:pac:

bush · 27-02-2010 2:24am

I wonder if they will release a list of all the changes made. Hopefully they do.

Jim · 27-02-2010 2:40am

Bush80 wrote: »

I wonder if they will release a list of all the changes made. Hopefully they do.

Very very much doubt it. I reckon they'll mention some of the more obvious changes, but that's all we'll get.

Yreval · 27-02-2010 3:04am

Xinkai wrote: »

AND she gets a cross up!?

To be fair, she can cross up (albeit with great difficulty) in vanilla SF4 with LK and HP.

As I'm sure I've said before, though, it's great to have her j.MK crossup - one of her signature moves, IMO - back.

Dreddybajs · 27-02-2010 3:47am

Bush80 wrote: »

The game is now finished so hopefully we will hear more about the tweaks to old characters soon.

Still the possibility of a day 0 patch though with all the people that are already playing this.

Xinkai · 27-02-2010 8:53am

Yreval wrote: »

To be fair, she can cross up (albeit with great difficulty) in vanilla SF4 with LK and HP.

As I'm sure I've said before, though, it's great to have her j.MK crossup - one of her signature moves, IMO - back.

Yes you can cross-up with her L but it's not a guaranteed combo if the opponent is standing. Can't wait to have some fireball battles with Ryu & Sagat now!

Kirby · 27-02-2010 11:21am

Yreval wrote: »

http://www.hadoken.net/?p=1306

Interview with Seth Killian.

4 new stages? really?

Okay, it's not a vital part of the game like balance is. But I always held stages and music as a staple of the franchise and it's a bit disappointing to see them cut corners like that.

I'm also disappointed that it looks like Dhalsim is getting very few changes.

Dreddybajs · 27-02-2010 1:41pm

What would you like to see changed/added to Sim, Kirby? Haven't really thought about him at all myself, would be interested to know.

Dreddybajs · 27-02-2010 2:36pm

oops wrong thread

Azza · 27-02-2010 7:42pm

My 2 cents on Sim for what its worth.

Fix Up Blast and Ex.Up Blast to be decent anti air, but not a solution to cross ups on wake up.

Make Drills safe on hit.

Both of these moves seem useless at the moment.

Slight damage buff to his ultra.

Maybe a slight health buff.

Yreval · 28-02-2010 3:44pm

From SRK:

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225958&p=8448941&viewfull=1#post8448941

I Leak info:

1. Oil Coaster
2. Oil Combination Hold

More Soon! Pics included!

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225956&p=8448960&viewfull=1#post8448960

I Leak info:

EX Karakusa has armor.

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=217083&p=8448990&viewfull=1#post8448990

I Leak info:

EX Zonk Punch is invincible

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=210152&p=8449006&viewfull=1#post8449006

I Leak info:

Her follow ups to the air kick are called: 2nd impact > 3rd Strike.

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225958&p=8449064&viewfull=1#post8449064

I leak info:

Color 11: Characters have the black paint shadow (PC version-esque).
Color 12: Characters are pencil-striped like in the SSF4 trailers.

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=217083&p=8450466&viewfull=1#post8450466

I Leak info:

One of Codys Harder Trials: cr. LP, cr MP. Tornado FADC cr. LP. Ruff HK FADC U1

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225958&p=8451169&viewfull=1#post8451169

I Leak info:

1. Oil Coaster = 720 PPP
2. Oil Combination Hold = DD KKK

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225591&p=8451191&viewfull=1#post8451191

I leak info:

SRK Upper FADC Corkscrew Cross (U2) does not fully connect.

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225958&p=8452236&viewfull=1#post8452236

Meaning: The new trailers have this new animated style: with all the pencil like lines/stripes. SF4 had the black paintbrush style. This was also implemented in SF4 PC. In SSF4 Color 12 the characters will have the art style of the SSF4 trailers. The textures of the characters will have the same lines/stripes as in the trailer.

I Will post a pic monday to prove im not BS-ing. Wheter you judge it as false or true, it is not my problem. I can understand that the majority claims all this info as false. The Pic is very revealing, but as the last character is officially revealed i assure the doubters that you can trust my leaked info.

Why monday? For no reason whatsover.

I Leak info:

C. Vipers MP TK is nerfed. It has more recovery frames.

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225958&p=8454002&viewfull=1#post8454002

I Leak info:

Per Request Bison info!

Bisons U2: You can affect the range. Holding Back after Ultra makes it go close. Holding Forward Makes it go Full-Screen. Very fast recovery if whiffed/missed. Catches Fireballs faster than Abels U1.

@ Rugg: I can understand your perspective, i WILL post a Pic on Monday. But like i said, people will still doubt whether its fake or real.

MrLeaker info: Im so wasted right now Praise Jack Daniels

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225958&p=8454073&viewfull=1#post8454073

Im sorry i cant give you that info. Reason: Simple to be honest, i did not check out Gouken/Dan/Abel. 2 Busy with the newer characters.
About the Colors not every color was unlocked in the build. Only 1/2 and 11/12.

However!

I Leak Info:

- Colors and taunts will be individually unlocked simply playing with a character. Not like SF4 with the annoying Challenges.

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225956&p=8454125&viewfull=1#post8454125

I Leak info:

EX Chop startup has invincible frames just like Vipers EX seismo.

http://www.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=225958&p=8454680&viewfull=1#post8454680

I leak info:

Fei and Cammy's Counter Ultra's: The command list stated it 'Works only against certain attacks'

The above is the entire SRK postography of "TheLeaker". Probably not legit, but as you can see he claims to have photographic evidence that he'll post tomorrow...

Dreddybajs · 28-02-2010 9:15pm

Sairus · 28-02-2010 9:25pm

8 target combos? Do the rest of the cast have that many or is Dudley just showing off?

Dreddybajs · 28-02-2010 9:26pm

Dudley is famous for target combos, it's like one of the basises of his character...

Sairus · 28-02-2010 10:03pm

When I used to play 3S I barely knew how to do parries let alone all this target combo nonsense. It's been a scary new world for me these last 8 monthes XD

Dreddybajs · 28-02-2010 10:08pm

Target combos are a lot easier than learning to parry imo... you just press buttons fast :pac:

Sairus · 28-02-2010 10:10pm

Undoubtably, but it's a lot easier to know you're doing parries than target combos =D

I reckon I really need to crack out the aul Anniversary Collection and give 3S a shot again now that I sort of know how SF is supposed to be played

Dreddybajs · 28-02-2010 10:15pm

Not really... I mean if the normals cancel into each other then it's a target combo. It's pretty easy to see and probably the easiest type of combo to do in the game.

Sairus · 28-02-2010 10:17pm

You're seriously underestimating how much of a noob/scrub I was last year.
I played Dudley as one of my mains and I didn't know about any of his target combos XD

Sisko · 28-02-2010 10:18pm

Think of kens standing medium punch to hard punch or guiles c.mk to standing forward medium punch.

Its just pressing them in succession, much easier then linking.

Sairus · 28-02-2010 10:27pm

Dont worry, I know all about em now. Just saying when I played 3S last time (Just before SFIV) I didn't know they existed.

Sisko · 28-02-2010 10:30pm

Ah right, ah sure I'd say when you see them you'd recognize a few of them from 3s. Even though you didn't know what the move type was called etc.

Dreddybajs · 28-02-2010 11:25pm

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