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Leaving Cert '11/'12 Off-Topic 2

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    #3902
    Mysteriouschic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    How is everyone studying for the comparative?
    Are you just learning off one essay for each mode you're doing and adapting the answer to fit the question on the day?

    Ah this day next week we'll all be talking about what poet came up and which Hamlet questions.


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    #3903
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    Mysteriouschic wrote: »
    How is everyone studying for the comparative?
    Are you just learning off one essay for each mode you're doing and adapting the answer to fit the question on the day?

    Ah this day next week we'll all be talking about what poet came up and which Hamlet questions.

    Learning off a list of points for two different essays. Really in two minds about whether or not I'll bother with the theme one though.


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    #3904
    Eathrin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    There has *usually* been one, yes. There's no rule, and no guarantees.

    And 1 in *8* is more than a bit risky, you're good enough at maths to know that! ;)

    Well it's actually 1 in 2!
    We've actually read through all of the poets in class so should disaster strike I won't be twiddling my thumbs either.


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    #3905
    FaoiSin
    Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭FaoiSin


    I wish there was no way of preparing for English so it would not be based on who could learn off the best answers. If they had any sense they'd just Random Number Generate it and pick the 4 regardless of gender or whether they came up last year.

    That being said I'm doing all the male poets except for Frost :p


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    #3906
    Fergus_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_


    For the comparative, I'm studying the optimistic/pessimistic sample answer our teacher gave us earlier on in the year.

    So if a different question comes up, should only be a matter of adapting to the question with the comparisons I learned.

    (Totally reassuring myself here :pac:)


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    #3907
    Eathrin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    Togepi wrote: »
    Learning off a list of points for two different essays. Really in two minds about whether or not I'll bother with the theme one though.

    I think learning essay plans is the best idea, isn't it?
    I tend to take far longer than the allotted time when doing an essay at home so I should have a good idea of what to write in the exam if I want to finish on time.


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    #3908
    reznov
    Registered Users Posts: 921 ✭✭✭reznov


    YeaaahFaoiSin wrote: »
    I wish there was no way of preparing for English so it would not be based on who could learn off the best answers. If they had any sense they'd just Random Number Generate it and pick the 4 regardless of gender or whether they came up last year.

    That being said I'm doing all the male poets except for Frost :p

    A simple random sample would be quite convenient. But as you know from project Maths, nothing is truly random! Maybe they'll do it this year. Hope not.


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    #3909
    Fergus_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_


    I also feel that way, I don't think there's really any point writing out essays as anything could come up really.

    So I think it's better to learn the material and have essay plans written out, better use of the time imo.


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    #3910
    Mysteriouschic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    Togepi wrote: »
    Learning off a list of points for two different essays. Really in two minds about whether or not I'll bother with the theme one though.

    I hope it's theme or issue my general vision answer was about 6 pages long I don't really want to write it as long as that and there's nothing I can cut out of it. I don't mind GV I know it well , I bet it'll come up though hopefully I'll write fast enough.
    I'd love if english was split into three parts so we could do say Hamlet in the morning , comparative in the afternoon then poetry the next morning .Rather than writing 3 essays in 3hours 20minutes.


    You could always like draw up a chart for the comparative and compare or contrast them. I keep meaning to draw one up then getting caught up with other work.


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    #3911
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    Eathrin wrote: »
    I think learning essay plans is the best idea, isn't it?
    I tend to take far longer than the allotted time when doing an essay at home so I should have a good idea of what to write in the exam if I want to finish on time.

    It's probably the best way to prepare yeah. For the comparative my notes aren't plans though it's like a couple of pages of points. The headings for each are easy to remember though so that's some consolation. :o

    @MysteriousChic yeah my notes are in a kind of chart format with three columns so it's easy to see the comparisons. :) I actually want general vision and viewpoint to come up! :P


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    #3912
    Mysteriouschic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    Togepi wrote: »
    It's probably the best way to prepare yeah. For the comparative my notes aren't plans though it's like a couple of pages of points. The headings for each are easy to remember though so that's some consolation. :o

    @MysteriousChic yeah my notes are in a kind of chart format with three columns so it's easy to see the comparisons. :) I actually want general vision and viewpoint to come up! :P

    I like GV its just my answer is so long it might take me ages to write , I might leave the comparative til last and do Hamlet and poetry first then spend the rest of the time on the comparative. I'll see how I am for time first.


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    #3913
    smithy77
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    I learn't an essay for V&V which can be varied into different answers (Did that for the pre also:p). Might have a glance over Theme & Issue aswell at some point!


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    #3914
    FaoiSin
    Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭FaoiSin


    Plath's on the course for 2013 and 2014 so I wouldn't bank on her. Kinsella is also. I'm betting Heaney.


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    #3915
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    Had a weird thought the other day - what if we had a project for English? Like write a short story or something, or maybe do a study on a poet of your choice. It would be pretty interesting I think, and it'd take the pressure off on the day if 20% or so had already been done. The story idea probably wouldn't work because plagarism would be too easy, and the same might be true for the poetry, but still, just a thought. :P I actually love writing, but the exam makes me write worse than usual because of timing and pressure. :cool:


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    #3916
    Eathrin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    I'm not happy at all to be leaving school.
    I just sat on my own in a classroom today for about 30mins, thinking silently, weird yeah I know.
    But it's been my home for the last 6 years, loved all of my teachers, won't see half my class again, sad indeed.


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    #3917
    The High Crusade
    Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭The High Crusade


    Eathrin wrote: »
    I'm not happy at all to be leaving school.
    I just sat on my own in a classroom today for about 30mins, thinking silently, weird yeah I know.
    But it's been my home for the last 6 years, loved all of my teachers, won't see half my class again, sad indeed.

    I feel the complete opposite, the last year or two was fine but I've gone through enough bullying in the first few years from people in my year to make me so happy when I left :/


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    #3918
    Chuchoter
    Registered Users Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    I don't see many things jumping more than 5 or 10 points. The radio said 1500 less people are sitting the leaving this year because of low birth rate when we were born, so that could well cancel out the extra demand for certain courses to a point.:)


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    #3919
    Cruel Sun
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    The High Crusade wrote: »
    I feel the complete opposite, the last year or two was fine but I've gone through enough bullying in the first few years from people in my year to make me so happy when I left :/

    Very happy to be leaving too


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    #3920
    Togepi
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    Chuchoter wrote: »
    I don't see many things jumping more than 5 or 10 points. The radio said 1500 less people are sitting the leaving this year because of low birth rate when we were born, so that could well cancel out the extra demand for certain courses to a point.:)

    Some courses went up seventy points last year. There's still going to be a lot of decent differences in points this year, with rises and falls, just like every other year. Everyone should just do their best and ignore the points. They might go up, they might not, we'll know in August! :)


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    #3921
    Chuchoter
    Registered Users Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    The 70 point jumps were exceptions though. The vast percentage of us aren't going for comp sci and maths, I think the rest of us should be fine.


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    #3922
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    True. I just wish we were never told what points the courses are. I would've done better last year if I hadn't known, and the same goes for this year! Knowing just makes lazy students (like me) only aim for a bit above the required points, rather than aiming to do their best.


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    #3923
    Incompetent
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    Togepi wrote: »
    Some courses went up seventy points last year. There's still going to be a lot of decent differences in points this year, with rises and falls, just like every other year. Everyone should just do their best and ignore the points. They might go up, they might not, we'll know in August! :)


    I swear, if computer science goes up 70 points just because a load of eejits think it's something it's not...


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    #3924
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    Incompetent wrote: »
    I swear, if computer science goes up 70 points just because a load of eejits think it's something it's not...

    Did the computer science points go up much last year? I'd be fairly annoyed if they went up because people who are experts at using Facebook and Word thought the course would suit them. :cool:


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    #3925
    rosualt
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭rosualt


    Are all the high points courses expected to go up? Or is it just maths and sciencey ones? The course I want is 530 as it is, really hoping it stays put! :/


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    #3926
    Incompetent
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    Togepi wrote: »
    Did the computer science points go up much last year? I'd be fairly annoyed if they went up because people who are experts at using Facebook and Word thought the course would suit them. :cool:


    That's exactly what they're like. I know two of them who never listen to me when I tell them what it's actually like! I'd bet you a grand they drop out in year 1 too

    UCD went up about 35, TCD a bit less - 20 maybe.


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    #3927
    Chuchoter
    Registered Users Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Chuchoter


    In my own opinion, only the maths and science ones will go up, but that doesn't make me the boss of CAO points :S
    My top 2 are 550 and 510 and I'd like it if they stayed there.


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    #3928
    Togepi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,813 ✭✭✭Togepi


    Incompetent wrote: »
    That's exactly what they're like. I know two of them who never listen to me when I tell them what it's actually like! I'd bet you a grand they drop out in year 1 too

    UCD went up about 35, TCD a bit less - 20 maybe.

    Ah well then they surely won't be as likely to take another big jump again this year. Good luck anyway! :)


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    #3929
    Eathrin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,076 ✭✭✭Eathrin


    What's your favourite colour?
    (oh yes I can do OT)


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    #3930
    Diamondsandrose
    Registered Users Posts: 215 ✭✭Diamondsandrose


    Lads anyone doing economics? I've just started a new predictions thread if anyone's interested? :)

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056657036


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    #3931
    Meowth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,918 ✭✭✭Meowth


    Eathrin wrote: »
    I'm not happy at all to be leaving school.
    I just sat on my own in a classroom today for about 30mins, thinking silently, weird yeah I know.
    But it's been my home for the last 6 years, loved all of my teachers, won't see half my class again, sad indeed.
    Got me thinking how much i'm gonna miss this thread next year and you guys *sniffles*
    Eathrin wrote: »
    What's your favourite colour?
    (oh yes I can do OT)
    And thank the lord, I can't stand all this serious LC talk :(
    Its blue and yours ? :)


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