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Aritech CS350 Alarm - Low Battery

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The bigger the Amph the longer it will hold up the system in the event of a power cut. Either will fit into CS350 housing. Your best option is to take the old one with you when buying a new one. On some CS350 installations the 7.2 Amph may be a bit tight depending on the routing of the cables.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Lunty wrote: »
    Re the enclosed - have the low battery indicator on my alarm panel - not particularly DIY minded, but the instructions seem simple enough.

    Will try and source a battery locally - wont have chance to open up the alarm panel in the light before the weekend - to check on battery size / dimensions etc

    There are different spec batteries mention - all 12v - but some mentioned 2.8Amph / some 7.2 - which is correct

    Without seeing the battery - I want to be sure to see if i am getting the correct one - does anyone know the approx dimensions?

    Also I dont have the engineers code - will i need this at any point? I dont want to get half way through and encounter a problem

    Before you open the control panel make sure you turn off the mains going to the control panel as there is live mains inside. You should not need the engineer code to do this unless an engineer reset is set up on the alarm. I would get the 12v 7.2amp battery, cables can easily be pushed under the circuit board. Either will work but it is the best one to use with this alarm as it will keep the alarm system going longer in the event of a power failure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi Everyone,

    Happy New Year!

    I hope someone here can help me with this problem which I have with my Aritech CS350. The alarm went off at approx. 5.30am Christmas Eve and also at approx. 6.30am Christmas Day (the alarm was reset). The following day, when I returned to the house, I could hear an alarm ringing inside the house. After entering the deactivation code, the display read "Fuse" and the yellow warning light on the display was illuminated.

    I am sure that the fuse is easy to replace. Is it easy to locate (i.e. what does it look like?) and what amp fuse does it take?

    Many thanks for any advice anyone can give me.

    Aoihbinn


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The fuse is easy enough to replace once you find which one is blown.
    The fuses and thier ratings are shown on the inside of the panel lid.
    If you have a multimeter you can check each fuse.
    If not try to see whats not getting power.
    Keypad is obviously OK.
    Is there a PIR ? That would be on Aux.
    Bells working?
    Bear in mind you have 2 other problems.
    What is activating the alarm? and what is blowing the fuse?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi Koolkid,
    Many thanks for your reply, it is really helpful.
    1. The keypad is ok.
    2. There is a PIR. How would I know if that is on AUX?
    3. The bells are working.
    I agree with you that I do have two other problems with the alarm. How would I determine what is activating the alarm and what has blown the fuse?

    Many thanks again for any help you can give.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Hi Aoibhinn,

    If you walk in front of the pir, does a light come on ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi Altor,

    Yes, the light on the PIR does come on.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    It is not that fuse gone. There are 5 fuses for this system.
    1 mains
    2 battery
    3 aux, internal bell
    4 external bell
    5 keypads

    If you try set the alarm does it say low battery ? If not it could be the external bell fuse that is blown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi Altor,

    I got the battery replaced early last summer and it has been working without any problems so far (but I will not rule it out until I check the fuses with the multimeter).

    Many thanks again for your help.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    If you press down arrow twice does this give any indication on what the fault is ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi Altor and Koolkid,

    Many thanks to both of you for your great help. I found that the Mains fuse had blown. I have now replaced it and all seems to be working now.

    My local electrical store gave me a 1 Amp fuse to use, but he didn't know if it was a quick blow fuse (and it was the only fuse he had). Do you know where would I get a quick blow 1 Amp fuse? Do Woody's or Atlantic Homecare sell these or would I have to go to a specialist electrical store?
    If I have to go to a specialist store, do you know of any near Maynooth?

    Also now I have to identify why the mains fuse blew in the first place. Have you any suggestions how I might do this?

    Thanks again for your great help.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Thats good. You can get them in M.E.W in Leixlip. It is beside Lidl. Bring the old fuse with you. If the alarm activates again take note of the zone that is activating the alarm. This will be where the fault is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Thanks Altor, I'll call into that store tomorrow and also I will be keeping an eye on the alarm when it next goes off.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Aoibhinn wrote: »
    Thanks Altor, I'll call into that store tomorrow and also I will be keeping an eye on the alarm when it next goes off.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn

    Your welcome, if you have any problems you know where we are :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 aoife303


    I moved into a new apartment and was told the alarm system had been disabled. The plastic cover of the keypad was removed and all thats left is the motherboard (?) part on the wall. The box is still intact in the hot press though, but I passed no remarks as I was under the impression the entire thing was disabled.

    However the alarm has started going off in the apartment at random intervals. And I can't switch it off properly as I've no keypad/passcode. The landlord was under the impression the system had never worked. The only way I can stop the alarm ringing is by switching it off at the fusebox. This seemed to reset it the first few times and it wouldn't ring again for a few days. However now it won't stop going off. I've had to leave the fuse off permanently and as a result I've no lights in the kitchen, hall or sitting room...

    Is there any way of disabling the system with just the box in the hot press and no passcode? It's driving me mad!


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    To power the system down completely procede as follows
    1. Turn off the mains power at the fuse board.
    2. open the main panel in the hot press.
    3. In the top lefthand corner you will see the main power supply & the mains wired in 3 blocks. On the block where the live is wired in (Brown wire) remove the fuse holder.
    4. Disconnect the Red/Black leads from the battery at the base of the panel. (At this point the external siren may ring, it should stop after 20-30 minutes)
    5. Close up the panel.
    6. Turn on the mains power. The keypad should no be blank.
    Once the outside sirenruns down it will not activate again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭branners69


    Am having a new problem with my CS350.

    I forgot the alarm was still on this morning and I opened the back door. The alarm went off, when I entered the code to turn it off the outside bell kept going. It stopped after 15-20 mins but now I have an error message on the keypad saying FUSE. When I press the down arrow twice the keypad displays BELL TAMPER.

    If I change the fuse will the error disappear? What type of fuse do I need? I know there are 5 fuses but are they all the same size? Any idea which fuse in the box is the external bell fuse?

    Thanks,

    Branners


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The external bell fuse is fuse 3. See the diagram inside the lid to locate it.
    It is 1A fast blow 20 mm.
    Get a few of these and activate the alarm after you replace the fuse.
    If it blows again you have a wiring problem or a faulty external bell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    branners69 wrote: »
    Am having a new problem with my CS350.

    I forgot the alarm was still on this morning and I opened the back door. The alarm went off, when I entered the code to turn it off the outside bell kept going. It stopped after 15-20 mins but now I have an error message on the keypad saying FUSE. When I press the down arrow twice the keypad displays BELL TAMPER.

    If I change the fuse will the error disappear? What type of fuse do I need? I know there are 5 fuses but are they all the same size? Any idea which fuse in the box is the external bell fuse?

    Thanks,

    Branners

    Hi Branners,

    Make sure you turn off the mains going to the alarm before you open the control panel. I have put up a diagram which has the fuse location plus the fuse rating. The reason the external bell went off for the 15-20 minutes is because the fuse had blown. Replacing the fuse with a fuse of the same rating should fix this issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭branners69


    Thanks for replies, can the fuses be purchased in Woodies etc?

    I just tried to set the alarm and it wont set, just says Bell Tamper. If I remove the blown fuse would the alarm set? Or will I just have to do without until I get the fuse?

    Thanks again!


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Is there any spare resistors in the panel?
    They are 4k7.
    They would look like this
    3658217824_206e2fe589_z.jpg
    If so wire one between BHO & TR leaving the cable in the BHO terminal.
    It may be there is one wired into TR & onto a cable. You can disconnect from the cable & wire that end into BHO.
    Remember to put back the way it was when you get the fuse replaced.
    Woodies wouldn't be great for these.
    The likes of Maplins or Radionics would be your best bet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭branners69


    KoolKid wrote: »
    Is there any spare resistors in the panel?

    If so wire one between BHO & TR leaving the cable in the BHO terminal.
    It may be there is one wired into TR & onto a cable. You can disconnect from the cable & wire that end into BHO.
    Remember to put back the way it was when you get the fuse replaced.
    Woodies wouldn't be great for these.
    The likes of Maplins or Radionics would be your best bet.

    Way out of my league! I'll be doing well to replace the fuse without burning down the house!


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Its not as difficult as it may sound.
    The bell tamper is caused because the external bell is getting no power as the fuse is blown. The resistor between BHO & TR is simply bypassing th tamper loop out to the bell & back. Can you see one of those resistors connected into TR, Terminal 17?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭branners69


    I bought a fuse in Maplins, 10 of them for €3.29.

    Many thanks for all the advice, saved a fortune not getting an engineer!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    branners69 wrote: »
    I bought a fuse in Maplins, 10 of them for €3.29.

    Many thanks for all the advice, saved a fortune not getting an engineer!

    Good for you branners69. No point paying an engineer to do a simple job like changing the fuse when you can do it yourself :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi again Everyone,

    I hope you can help me with my ongoing Aritech CS350 problem. The mains fuse has now blown three times since the end of December. I cannot find the reason why it is blowing. So my question is can anyone point me in the direction of a reputable Aritech alarm repair person in the Maynooth (north Kildare area)? Ideally someone who will identify the root cause of the problem and fix it, rather than just replace the fuse.

    Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Take a look at the Suppliers Sticky.
    Its possibly the power supply but it should be easy enough to find the cause.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Aoibhinn wrote: »
    Hi again Everyone,

    I hope you can help me with my ongoing Aritech CS350 problem. The mains fuse has now blown three times since the end of December. I cannot find the reason why it is blowing. So my question is can anyone point me in the direction of a reputable Aritech alarm repair person in the Maynooth (north Kildare area)? Ideally someone who will identify the root cause of the problem and fix it, rather than just replace the fuse.

    Thanks for any assistance you can provide.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn

    I would say its the power supply off the alarm, very easy to get replaced. If you check out the list here or the suppliers list you will get a registered company close to you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi,

    Just want to let you know that the problems with my alarm have been sorted (yes I know it has been over a year since my original post!).

    Altor came out the house and was able to identify the root cause of the problem. He was able to provide me with the most cost effective solution. A year later, and my alarm is working perfectly!

    Altor is an extremely professional man and really knows his business. I would have no hesitation in recommending Altor to anyone. Thanks for your help Altor!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Aoibhinn wrote: »
    Hi,

    Just want to let you know that the problems with my alarm have been sorted (yes I know it has been over a year since my original post!).

    Altor came out the house and was able to identify the root cause of the problem. He was able to provide me with the most cost effective solution. A year later, and my alarm is working perfectly!

    Altor is an extremely professional man and really knows his business. I would have no hesitation in recommending Altor to anyone. Thanks for your help Altor!

    Thanks for getting back to us.

    Good to hear all is still going well with your alarm :D


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