Fantasy Sports Arena 2015 Feedback thread **Mod warning post 121**

First and foremost, threads shouldn't be littered with people asking questions about how the game works. There is a very comprehensive page on the site which goes through it all.

Anything that isn't covered on there, is certainly worthy of discussion.

You could go with a sticky with the list of rules on it, but really that isn't so necessary because the information is very easily accessed. It is only laziness that leads to people using the forum as their own personal FAQ rather than a venue for constructive discussion and somewhere to bounce ideas off each other.

This should be something that we can report to the moderators, and they will infract accordingly.

At the same time, I appreciate that one could look for something and possibly miss it, so where someone clarifies they've looked for the information (and it isn't glaringly obvious that they haven't), or just don't understand wording, and seek to clarify that wording, no infraction should apply.

alchemist33 wrote: »

I think we could do with a subforum for FSA competitions e.g. the leagues, draft league, any cup competition we run. I can scan the list of threads easy enough to get what I want, but there are a good few of these threads and they make it harder for newbies to negotiate the FSA.

Otherwise, sterling work everyone.

Personally I think the main forum would lose out greatly from the lack of these, but then again I'm biased.

alchemist33 wrote: »

I think we could do with a subforum for FSA competitions e.g. the leagues, draft league, any cup competition we run. I can scan the list of threads easy enough to get what I want, but there are a good few of these threads and they make it harder for newbies to negotiate the FSA.

Otherwise, sterling work everyone.

There's an option on the soccer forum to remove superthreads, maybe they could do something similar here.

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Too many threads serving the same purpose imo.

Just a little thing that has always annoyed me. People posting their teams in the match day thread, I've read all about your team in the transfer thread I don't want to be reading about it in the match day threadz keep that thread for updates on games.

Would agree with this, but if you're going with this, you'd want to be separating the matchday thread into 2 threads, the actual matchday thread, and the 'Your Team Gameweek 22 Thread' which will have people complaining about even more threads on the forum.

Personally I don't buy too much into the too many threads argument. I've never had too many problems navigating here. A thread will usually stay comfortably on the first page even 2 days after anyone has bothered posting in it.

First and foremost, it has to be said the forum is well run and enjoyable to read, post and follow. A feedback thread is a good idea as well just to get the users thoughts out in the open.

Considering this we shouldn’t be looking to implement lots of hard and fast rules imo. If its broke don’t fix it, and the forum certainly isn’t broken. A lot of forums on Boards.ie have been destroyed by too many rules and it simply takes the fun out of things. This is supposed to be a game and the forum should be relaxed rules wise

Regarding threads. I don’t believe there are too many threads. There is the standard General thread, RMT thread and then the individual GW capt, transfers and matchday threads. A lot of FSA league threads granted, but that should be encouraged as its good community stuff. I also don’t have any issue with the timing of a thread being created. What difference does it make if a matchday thread is started at 5 past midnight or 5 past 9 in the morning, likewise with the transfers thread being started as soon as the new deadline has passed. The only stipulation around timing of threads being started should be that its on the matchday (for match day threads) or past the deadline (for transfers threads).

I would like to suggest that users on the forum add a simple indication to their sig to identify their FPL/UFPL team. It would be useful to be able to check others teams and performance to evaluate advice given. A FPL button exists on FISO for this, but would probably be too much to ask the site developers on Boards.ie to implement one but just a simple F:team ID number would work well. This doesn’t need to be mandatory but should be encouraged imo.

However, I also feel that users using others ranking to say their opinion isn’t valid shouldn’t be allowed and should be moderated heavily. An opinion or advice should be given, its up to others to take it up or not, no one should be subject to getting a response along the lines of ‘your rank is 1 million and therefore your advice is rubbish’. If you don’t agree argue the case its just a bit lazy relying on rank or past performance

Something which has crept in a little recently and needs to be stamped out quickly and strongly is posters deliberately posting misleading or fake calls during matchdays. Not genuine mistakes now, but for the laugh posting ‘AUSTIN!!!!!’ and then further down the post something please ‘please score’. This sort of thing should be an auto ban imo. It is rife on sites with chatboxes (totalfpl for example) and shouldn’t be allowed at all here. Genuine mistakes are different of course but the deliberate stuff should be stamped out.

The game can be frustrating, and sometimes on match threads posters can get frustrated with others posting about a good or bad score or the famous ‘happy enough with that’ after a good score. Collective chill pills need to be taken there lads. Its become a bit of an in joke on the forum now, embrace it

Agree fully about the FAQ, but problem is people still wont read it. But if someone (CSF) could just link to the thread every time someone asks a question that’s already answered as opposed to answering it again then that would be great.
One suggestion for the moderating team, I’ve noticed a few times that troll type posts are deleted, presumably the poster warned in private etc, but is it not better practise to deal with it on thread as it sets the example to follow

KevIRL wrote: »

First and foremost, it has to be said the forum is well run and enjoyable to read, post and follow. A feedback thread is a good idea as well just to get the users thoughts out in the open.

Considering this we shouldn’t be looking to implement lots of hard and fast rules imo. If its broke don’t fix it, and the forum certainly isn’t broken. A lot of forums on Boards.ie have been destroyed by too many rules and it simply takes the fun out of things. This is supposed to be a game and the forum should be relaxed rules wise

Regarding threads. I don’t believe there are too many threads. There is the standard General thread, RMT thread and then the individual GW capt, transfers and matchday threads. A lot of FSA league threads granted, but that should be encouraged as its good community stuff. I also don’t have any issue with the timing of a thread being created. What difference does it make if a matchday thread is started at 5 past midnight or 5 past 9 in the morning, likewise with the transfers thread being started as soon as the new deadline has passed. The only stipulation around timing of threads being started should be that its on the matchday (for match day threads) or past the deadline (for transfers threads).

I would like to suggest that users on the forum add a simple indication to their sig to identify their FPL/UFPL team. It would be useful to be able to check others teams and performance to evaluate advice given. A FPL button exists on FISO for this, but would probably be too much to ask the site developers on Boards.ie to implement one but just a simple F:team ID number would work well. This doesn’t need to be mandatory but should be encouraged imo.

However, I also feel that users using others ranking to say their opinion isn’t valid shouldn’t be allowed and should be moderated heavily. An opinion or advice should be given, its up to others to take it up or not, no one should be subject to getting a response along the lines of ‘your rank is 1 million and therefore your advice is rubbish’. If you don’t agree argue the case its just a bit lazy relying on rank or past performance

Something which has crept in a little recently and needs to be stamped out quickly and strongly is posters deliberately posting misleading or fake calls during matchdays. Not genuine mistakes now, but for the laugh posting ‘AUSTIN!!!!!’ and then further down the post something please ‘please score’. This sort of thing should be an auto ban imo. It is rife on sites with chatboxes (totalfpl for example) and shouldn’t be allowed at all here. Genuine mistakes are different of course but the deliberate stuff should be stamped out.

The game can be frustrating, and sometimes on match threads posters can get frustrated with others posting about a good or bad score or the famous ‘happy enough with that’ after a good score. Collective chill pills need to be taken there lads. Its become a bit of an in joke on the forum now, embrace it

Agree fully about the FAQ, but problem is people still wont read it. But if someone (CSF) could just link to the thread every time someone asks a question that’s already answered as opposed to answering it again then that would be great.
One suggestion for the moderating team, I’ve noticed a few times that troll type posts are deleted, presumably the poster warned in private etc, but is it not better practise to deal with it on thread as it sets the example to follow

The sig thing is a great idea. I'll look to add it into mine ASAP. Agreed completely on the timing of the matchday thread as long as it is on the day of the game. We shouldn't be having a matchday thread days before the game because it isn't the matchday and there are transfer threads etc that deal with the buildup to it.

Hadn't noticed the fake goal alert things thankfully (because that would infuriate me if it affected me). Should be clamped down on in the worst way. It is one of the worst offences someone could commit on this forum. That person might think its a great joke but people really care about their FPL team.

As for the silly questions, I don't want to be constantly providing links to people. Nobody does. I was largely doing it to point out how simple it would be for them to find the information themselves, rather than because I think these people really deserve to have me or the forum teach them the basic mechanics of the game. They need to go for the link themselves, and should be dealt with if they don't.

I'm happy with the forum. I think Kev's idea about a link to your team in your sig is a good one. I'll add mine on Monday when I'm back on a PC at work.

Re people asking stupid questions and trolls, you are never going to stamp it out completely. I think those that do pop their head up are dealt with well by the forum.

CSF wrote: »

Personally I think the main forum would lose out greatly from the lack of these, but then again I'm biased.

Indeed

Fair enough, I'm not involved in any so have a different perspective, but it's not a biggie. Maybe Nody's tag suggestion would be good, althiough I can't for the life of me remember seeing these on boards before.

As for fake goal shouts, that should be cardable.

Another thing maybe someone could edit In the teams to the first post of the match day thread. Would save you having to search the thread for them.

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Another thing maybe someone could edit In the teams to the first post of the match day thread. Would save you having to search the thread for them.

You'd wanna have a dedicated person who makes the matchday threads and posts the team in that case. I'm not able to edit your posts for example, so it would all fall on one person.

I know which Finn Harps supporting person I would nominate if he were willing

CSF wrote: »

You'd wanna have a dedicated person who makes the matchday threads and posts the team in that case. I'm not able to edit your posts for example, so it would all fall on one person.

I know which Finn Harps supporting person I would nominate if he were willing

Give that Mr. P back his mod-hood

Personally I think it's an awful lot to ask one or two people to do. They would have to be online and ready at 5 or 6 specific times each weekend.

It'd be extremely handy if it was posted in OP...but it's not exactly hard to find the teams as is. Head to the page that starts 50mins before gametime. It's a few clicks away.

PARlance wrote: »

Give that Mr. P back his mod-hood

Personally I think it's an awful lot to ask one or two people to do. They would have to be online and ready at 5 or 6 specific times each weekend.

It'd be extremely handy if posts in OP...but it's not exactly hard to find the teams as is. Head to the page that starts 50mins before gametime. It's a few clicks away.

I'm quite happy with my retirement, still getting payments for another few months :pac:

Yeah I used to do it a lot before and have no problem doing it from time to time but as for putting it on the first page you'd need either a mod or the thread starter to be online at 2:15 and that's not going to work every week. Could certainly be done some of the time but it's not too hard to find the teams really. It's a good idea but it's not something we could get working at 100%

I can take Team line up duty if ye want?

I personally don't think there's any need to put all the lineups in the matchday thread opening post. It's a bit like the newbie question asking really as it requires a bit of searching but in essence is not hard to find at all. Plus it would require a lot of effort for such a small thing when you think about it. As PARlance said it isn't a hard task to find. Just head to page 4 or 5 (for those on 40 posts per page) during Saturday afternoon and they are usually all there.

As mentioned by KevIRL on first page, "AUSTIN!!!" posts should be an automatic 1 week ban if the poster is obviously trolling.

The Austin rule