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"Conspiracy Event" in Lwow/Lviv 1932?

  • 03-06-2015 11:34am
    #1
    Kettleson
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    Hi all.

    I'm posting here to see if anyone could suggest the significance of the attached engravings on a silver cigarette case.

    ie: was there a significant event in the run up to World War 1 that this might have a connection with?

    "to chief conspirator" "Lwow 24th December 1932"

    I'm not sure if the signature, is indeed a copy of the recipients signature or the makers name.

    The monogram on the cover is "MB" or "BM".

    Also attached is a stamp which I bought last year and (with the assistance of Boards.ie) later identified it as an official stamp used by the Warsaw Jewish Council which I then donated to the Holocaust Education Trust Ireland where it is on display.

    I'd appreciate any comments.

    Thanks


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  • #2
    spurious
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    Someone with a knowledge of Polish history would be your best best.

    With my very limited Polish, I searched for the date in Polish documents and got a Polish wikipedia article about this guy who was executed on that date - quite possibly nothing whatsoever to do with your case.

    Dmytro Danyłyszyn, Ukr. Дмитро Данилишин (b. April 2 1907 in Truskavets , d. 24 Dec. 1932 in Lviv ) - Ukrainian activist nationalist , terrorist.

    He graduated three classes of elementary school, worked as a shoemaker. Member of the Ukrainian Military Organization and the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists , was a participant in the attack on Tadeusz Hołówka .

    He was sentenced to death for involvement in the bombing and expropriation shares on the post office and the tax office at the Jagiellonian Gródku . The sentence was executed.

    Why the inscription is in English is intriguing.


  • #3
    Kettleson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    Thanks for that Spurious. I guess I'm on a mission to find out what the inscription means. Its also bringing me into contact with history that I'd never known before, and somewhat imaginative lines of investigation :).

    The hallmark is definitely Polish. Yet the inscription is in english as you say. Suggesting English/english speaking people being involved as "conspirators".

    I've been looking into the activities of the Biuro Szyfrów, which began to break Germany Enigma ciphers, and became active in 1932. Its headquarters were in the then Polish city of Lwow.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biuro_Szyfr%C3%B3w

    Increasing the possible intrigue, the MB monogram, I noticed that Louis Mountbatten was appointed Fleet Wireless Officer to the Mediterranean Fleet in August 1931. I was wondering would he have had any involvement as Wireless officer. Wild imagination I know :)

    The cigarette case is a fine piece of silver work, again suggesting the significance of the organisation and financial status of the organisation that commissioned its making.

    I have also found another cigarette in a Jewish War Museum, own by a vicitim of a Nazi Cooncentration camp, whose wife had the initials MB inscribed on it after his death.

    The search will keep me busy and out of trouble for a while! :) Thanks for your post as well.

    Many thanks


  • #4
    Kettleson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    PS: I think identifying the signature might crack the puzzle.. :)

    Stretching the imagination of the eye as far as one can, is there any remote chance that the signature on the case might be "Jerzy"

    From Wiki

    "In September 1932, Maksymilian Ciężki hired three young graduates of the Poznań course to be Bureau staff members: Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Różycki and Henryk Zygalski.[15


  • #5
    johnny_doyle
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    don't you mean in the run up to WW2? WW1 finished July 1919.

    Can you provide a close up photo of the KM and head hallmark symbols on the right hand corner?

    Interesting stamp.

    The stamp has Ordnungdienst which looks like a reference to the Jews employed as Police by the Nazis

    http://s5.galerieallegro.pl/zdjecia/z447/4474178/middle/1.jpg

    http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30070861

    http://digitalassets.ushmm.org/photoarchives/detail.aspx?id=24309

    http://www.ww2f.com/topic/41081-help-identify-this/

    http://collectibles.bidstart.com/JUDAICA-1940s-JUDENRAT-HAND-CANCELING-DEVICES-/22084944/a.html

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/judenrat.html


  • #6
    Kettleson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    Thanks Johnny.

    Yes I must have been in a haze when I posted in WW1!! I've just noticed my error now.

    The stamp was confirmed as one which would have been used by the Judenrat in Warsaw.

    As I mentioned I donated it to the Holocaust Education Trust Ireland based in Dublin.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenrat


    I'll get a close up of the hall mark, but I'm pretty sure its the same as the one here. (a few down)

    http://www.hallmarkresearch.com/html/archives.html

    Thanks for the reply and the links.


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  • #7
    Manach
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    Offhand the book Bloodlands by Synder covers that time period fairly well. There was mention of various intelligence gathering and plots (real and staged) by the Soviet and Polish services in that region. Might thus provide context?


  • #8
    Kettleson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭Kettleson


    That's interesting Manach thanks. I'll chase that up.

    I met with a Polish friend tonight who is very interested in history and artefacts. He looked at the "Signature and said immediately that's a ladies name, it looks like "Julie" or July". The case is small and "ladylike".

    He too, thought the context with the writing in English was strange/intriguing. He has sent photos off to a place in Poland to see if they can make a connection.

    Anyways the digging is making me find out a lot about the history of that time and place.


  • #9
    Kettleson
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    @Johnny. Here are the close up of the stamp marks. There 3 in all. Thanks for your interest.

    (KiM) I think is Krupski & Matulewicz (Wladyslaw Krupski & Jan Matulewicz), who were active in the 1930s in Warsaw.


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