Clubs and Societies Awards 2012

Stating the bleedingly obvious but most people just vote for the people they like (or, at best, for whom they have respect in an organisational capacity) when it comes to best event for either clubs or societies. They almost certainly haven't been to the event (particularly if it happened in another country organised by a club or soc of which they're not a member. Or, heaven help us, on a weekend.) but they know who they reckon are good people so they vote on that basis.

I suspect that this will surprise very few non-myopic people.

While "event" has a scientific definition, "event" when it comes to clubs and socs has a rather more fluid definition (and understandably so) so you can't blame people for how they nominate what they consider to be the most likely view of a moment in time, a day, or an ongoing activity in order to secure a bit of support. And being realistic, the elasticity of what might consider an "event" doesn't lend itself to a non-fluid definition of what constitutes an "event" in any case.

Chris Martin wrote: »

The Eurovision Song Contest

Parkour and Trampolining - Bit wierd competing against each other. Usually they do everything together!

Chimaera wrote: »

It bothers me somewhat that 2 of the 3 events put in for best club event are foreign trips.

From the records on the website, it shows the last time an international trip won best club event was at the 2005 ball.

With only 3 of the 13 records being international, I think adding points for promoting UL/ULSU would be unnecessary. And in any case, wouldn't driving the Wolves Jeep/Sprinter/Bus around the continent fit into this category?

Best Club Event

2010/2011 Windsurfing - Hosting Intervarsities
2009/2010 Outdoor Pursuits - Glendalough Valentines Ball
2008/2009 Ultimate Frisbee - Hoisting 'Siege of Limerick' Intervarsities
2007/2008 Kayak - Hosting Intervarsities
2006/2007 Outdoor Pursuits & Kayak - Lisnagry Respite Charity Santa Hats
2005/2006 Basketball - Hosting Intervarsities
2004/2005 Kayak - Alps Trip
2003/2004 Sailing - Intervarsities
2002/2003 Outdoor Pursuits - Aconcagua Expedition
1999/2000 Rowing - Head of the Charles, Boston USA
1998/1999 Soccer - Collingwood Cup
1997/1998 Sailing - Intervarsities Dromineer
1996/1997 Sailing - Regatta Killaloe

Why would it be that it bothers anyone where trips occur?
Can't understand why it is that people would criticise any decision to put forward and international trip for consideration.

reunion wrote: »

The problem is the current attitude seems to be if you don't do a foreign trip, you don't have a best event.

I haven't found this to be the attitude at all. The history of event winners doesn't support it either.

Seems like a lot of C&S don't actually engage with the awards at all with only limited numbers of submissions going in a lot of the time.

ned14 wrote: »

I have an issue with the lack of points going for competitive achievements. Yes, I know some clubs are non-competitive but there should be a greater weighting on achievements.

A club which has won several intervarsities in a row, represented Ireland and UL in a world championship, become the first Irish university to be invited to the British championships... all in the space of the last 12 months would earn a maximum of 3/92 points which is ridiculous in my opinion. Also in the promotion category, why is promotion of the university name nationally or internationally weighted much lower than within UL?

Anyone share an opinion on this?

Those points are from BICS and were voted on by council. You may propose to have them changed.

It is only based on 1 year's achievements. Winning IV's for 7 years in a row is meaningless and should be discounted. The only information you can take is that you won this years IV.

Achievements also don't need to be competitive, getting a high number of members, more people at training, etc. Everyone should be scoring 3/3 in this category

You have other categories where you could talk about the training required to get to the standard to win the IV's. That's where the other points should come from.

You are right, there isn't enough points directly for achievements, but then again I don't want a badly run club/society being nominated because they won one award. There are enough points indirectly for achievements though.

You are a college club/society first and foremost. If you can't publicise yourselves on campus why bother publicising yourselves off campus? The club/society are their to help students so you should be getting full marks for on campus advertising.

Cadroc wrote: »

Societies
Best Soc: International Soc.
Best New/Improved Soc: Out in UL.
Best Soc Event: Queerbash 8.
Best Soc Individual: Niall Out in UL

Clubs
Best Club:Windsurfing
Best New/Improved Club: Trampoline.
Best Club Event: Wales Trip (Kayak)
Best Club Individual: David OPC

Mike Sadlier: David Hartery (DebU)
Paddy McHugh: Sarah Jennings (international Soc.)
Jason Hackett: Ginge (OPC)

Fairly sure I got them all right there! Congratulations to everyone involved, I think all the winners are highly deserving. Some must have been close calls!

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Him having a real name is all just an illusion...

Jason Hackett is for Outstanding Commitment to Clubs over 4 years minimum. Mike Sadlier is the Societies equivalent and Paddy McHugh is the Best Fresher of all clubs and socs combined.