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My PS3 vs Eircom's F1000 Modem -- a story of constant annoyances

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    #32
    Tommy Lagahan
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    smee again wrote: »
    FritzBox is more of the same, generic household crap, see what I suggested in this thread:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057038212

    Ain't that a router though?
    My problem is the VDSL modem, the ASUS does its routing job alright for what I need. Just need a consistent modem to bridge to it really.


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    #33
    Rilgar
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    smee again wrote: »
    Can you bridge the modem and add a proper router?

    Ain't got the mula to pay for another router to enact bridging to be honest. Plus, I doubt the thoughts of buying another router so soon wouldn't go down well in my house. Half the family is frigging technophobic, I swear.


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    #34
    smee again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Tommy Lagahan wrote: »
    Ain't that a router though?
    My problem is the VDSL modem, the ASUS does its routing job alright for what I need. Just need a consistent modem to bridge to it really.

    Yes, I thought that us what you wanted. Is your Asus not dialling PPPoE, if so, I can't see how you're having problems as the modem wouldn[t be doing anything other than connecting ethernet rj45 to analogue rj11
    Rilgar wrote: »
    Ain't got the mula to pay for another router to enact bridging to be honest. Plus, I doubt the thoughts of buying another router so soon wouldn't go down well in my house. Half the family is frigging technophobic, I swear.

    You aint gonna fix it without adding better kit


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    #35
    Tommy Lagahan
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    smee again wrote: »
    Yes, I thought that us what you wanted. Is your Asus not dialling PPPoE, if so, I can't see how you're having problems as the modem wouldn[t be doing anything other than connecting ethernet rj45 to analogue rj11
    Yeah the ASUS is dialing IPoE, so it would make you wonder how the Zyxel is managing to effect ping, its 100% not the ASUS either because I was using it all summer on a different broadband connection at home and it was fine there.


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    #36
    smee again
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    Tommy Lagahan wrote: »
    Yeah the ASUS is dialing IPoE, so it would make you wonder how the Zyxel is managing to effect ping, its 100% not the ASUS either because I was using it all summer on a different broadband connection at home and it was fine there.

    Doubtful it's the bridged modem when it's not doing anything. Are you plugged into the main socket? How are your line stats? There have been reports here of higher/erratic pings on VDSL
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=84782556


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    #37
    Rilgar
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    smee again wrote: »
    You aint gonna fix it without adding better kit

    Yeah, I was afraid someone was gonna say that. *Sigh* Guess I'll wait for the January sales for price drops or something.


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    #38
    smee again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Rilgar wrote: »
    Yeah, I was afraid someone was gonna say that. *Sigh* Guess I'll wait for the January sales for price drops or something.

    You could buy something like this, won't break the bank. You'll need to bridge the modem and add PPPoE settings to this router.


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    #39
    Tommy Lagahan
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    smee again wrote: »
    Doubtful it's the bridged modem when it's not doing anything. Are you plugged into the main socket? How are your line stats? There have been reports here of higher/erratic pings on VDSL
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=84782556

    Its at the main socket, there's nothing else connected to the line.
    Here's 2 captures of the line stats I'm getting at the moment:
    http://i.imgur.com/quMpVXs.png
    http://i.imgur.com/Nw8bmQT.png
    Thing is, is this just the VDSL or is it the Zyxel? Sorry if I'm derailing the thread, I'm mainly wondering if there's any point replacing it.
    I'd try using just the Zyxel but seeing Rilgar's hassle with his PS3, I don't know if I could be bothered with that.


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    #40
    smee again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Tommy Lagahan wrote: »
    Its at the main socket, there's nothing else connected to the line.
    Here's 2 captures of the line stats I'm getting at the moment:
    http://i.imgur.com/quMpVXs.png
    http://i.imgur.com/Nw8bmQT.png
    Thing is, is this just the VDSL or is it the Zyxel? Sorry if I'm derailing the thread, I'm mainly wondering if there's any point replacing it.
    I'd try using just the Zyxel but seeing Rilgar's hassle with his PS3, I don't know if I could be bothered with that.

    Let me guess, console gaming? See, the thing is about console gaming, is that there is no central server, it is hosted on one of the connections and the best connection one minute may not be the best connection later.

    Looks fine, how are you testing your ping? Ping www.inex.ie using command prompt
    In Windows, select Start > Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt.
    Enter the word ping, followed by a space, then www.inex.ie
    Paste results here
    You can run a longer ping with the -t parameter added at the end


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    #41
    Tommy Lagahan
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    smee again wrote: »
    Let me guess, console gaming? See, the thing is about console gaming, is that there is no central server, it is hosted on one of the connections and the best connection one minute may not be the best connection later.

    Looks fine, how are you testing your ping? Ping www.inex.ie using command prompt
    In Windows, select Start > Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt.
    Enter the word ping, followed by a space, then www.inex.ie
    Paste results here
    You can run a longer ping with the -t parameter added at the end

    Gaming on PS3 and PC, I know full well the woes of P2P matchmaking but I noticed the ping jump today when BF3 started acting up on PS3 and its dedicated servers as far as I know, anyway sure enough it was back up to 40ms to google with big spikes frequently.
    There wasn't any traffic other than the 40KB/s or so that BF3 uses, checked on the router's interface.
    I'm testing with a ping to google, this was the set of tests I did back when I got it installed first: http://imgur.com/a/4VRr8
    This is my latest few pings: http://i.imgur.com/h0k52Yu.png
    It just takes fits of doubling the ping every now and then that doesnt stop till you reboot the Zyxel.


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    #42
    Rilgar
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    smee again wrote: »
    You could buy something like this, won't break the bank. You'll need to bridge the modem and add PPPoE settings to this router.

    Wow, that's a handy little device! This is going straight on the want list and shall purchase it when I can. Thanks!


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    #43
    smee again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Tommy Lagahan wrote: »
    Gaming on PS3 and PC, I know full well the woes of P2P matchmaking but I noticed the ping jump today when BF3 started acting up on PS3 and its dedicated servers as far as I know, anyway sure enough it was back up to 40ms to google with big spikes frequently.
    There wasn't any traffic other than the 40KB/s or so that BF3 uses, checked on the router's interface.
    I'm testing with a ping to google, this was the set of tests I did back when I got it installed first: http://imgur.com/a/4VRr8
    This is my latest few pings: http://i.imgur.com/h0k52Yu.png
    It just takes fits of doubling the ping every now and then that doesnt stop till you reboot the Zyxel.

    I still wouldn't lie blame on the Zyxel, if it's bridged it's not actually doing anything. Rebooting it would force PPPoE on your Asus to get a different IP address. Next time try rebooting the Asus, see do you get the same temporary fix.
    Rilgar wrote: »
    Wow, that's a handy little device! This is going straight on the want list and shall purchase it when I can. Thanks!

    It's a cable router, you'll still need the modem and will need to figure how to bridge it. Someone else here may have done it before and advise.


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    #44
    Boogietime
    Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭Boogietime


    Tommy Lagahan wrote: »
    Its at the main socket, there's nothing else connected to the line.
    Here's 2 captures of the line stats I'm getting at the moment:
    http://i.imgur.com/quMpVXs.png
    http://i.imgur.com/Nw8bmQT.png
    Thing is, is this just the VDSL or is it the Zyxel? Sorry if I'm derailing the thread, I'm mainly wondering if there's any point replacing it.
    I'd try using just the Zyxel but seeing Rilgar's hassle with his PS3, I don't know if I could be bothered with that.

    Tommy, here's a handy tip that'll save you the trip to the bank: set the MTU on the router to 1484. Knocking off those extra bytes of data will take the zyxel bootloop out of discussion. If it's stuck in a loop try to reset it (pin at the back) and then bridge it again but after you've changed that MTU on yer Asus. Enjoy! :)

    Rilgar, happy I could help, even if it was to that extent... Bridging to your netopia will be a good solution until you can afford a good n draft wifi router so think about that :)


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    #45
    Freddy Smelly
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    always use mtu 1484 on pppoe settings on your 3rd party router when bridging the f1000

    mtu 1484 will set the packet size to 16bit

    the f1000 prefers those packet sizes


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    daveh077
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭daveh077


    Hi, I was wondering if you could provide some basic instructions so I could bridge my efibre router to my netopia, efibre's signal is terrible but the netopia reached the entire house.

    I have them cabled together just lacking the required settings to make it all work.

    If I do this and only use the netopia for wireless while having the efibre router to do just the routing do I still lose half my bandwidth like a traditional repeater would lose it?
    Boogietime wrote: »
    Tommy, here's a handy tip that'll save you the trip to the bank: set the MTU on the router to 1484. Knocking off those extra bytes of data will take the zyxel bootloop out of discussion. If it's stuck in a loop try to reset it (pin at the back) and then bridge it again but after you've changed that MTU on yer Asus. Enjoy! :)

    Rilgar, happy I could help, even if it was to that extent... Bridging to your netopia will be a good solution until you can afford a good n draft wifi router so think about that :)


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    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    smee again wrote: »
    FritzBox is more of the same, generic household crap
    Disagree with that tbh. AVM take the trouble to supply regular firmware upgrades even for older devices. They don't just fix bugs but add new functionality and so on. Their support pages are detailed and tech support is available (for free) from them.

    The FitzBoxes (at least the 73xx series) also do MUCH more than just perform as a modem/wireless router. My 7360 is also a fully functional PBX with many clever features. For example: I can add as many VoIP providers as I want to it and set up rules for outward dialing. I call my family back in Ireland and the FritzBox knows from the number that it should use a given VoIP provider (so the call actually costs me nothing and I don't have to fiddle around with prefix codes etc.)

    It also works well updating no-ip and other such free dynamic dns servers (very useful if you're using overplay smart dns to get around geo blocking and access iPlayer, Hulu etc.)

    The FritzBox also functions as a DECT base station, so you can move your "real" DECT base station to anywhere you want in the house. Doesn't have to be near the phone socket because you pair the handset to the FritzBox and just use the base station for charging.

    If you're not in the market for a DECT handset, AVM provide an Android/iOS app to turn your smartphone into one (for free). You can then use your smartphone to call out over your landline via your FritzBox!

    I can set up "callthrough" so I can dial my FritzBox, enter a PIN and then dial a further number (useful if I want to call internationally and have no 3G connection on my smartphone). Call forwarding based on rules is also useful: I can call my mobile for free from my FritzBox, so I have a rule set up that whn my family call my Irish VoIP number (for free-included in their bundle), my Fritzbox in Berlin will immediately redirect the call to my mobile: My family can call my German mobile for nothing from their landline and for the cost of a national rate call from their mobiles-thanks to the FritzBox.

    With a FritzBox you can also issue "guest WiFi passwords" so visitors can get internet access via the box but cannot access your internal network. You can also make these passwords expire after a set time.

    The FritzBox also functions as a NAS (when attached to a USB drive) if you so wish. It can also take a USB 3G dongle and allow all devices to access the internet via it (possibly useful during a dsl outage)

    That's a world away from some Zyxel thing supplied by Eircom.


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    #48
    smee again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    You're right, It may be better than the Zyxel, but it's still household grade. There is a massive difference between it and the Mikrotik, in cpu power, ram and wireless power. Mikrotik are an enterprise router and Mikrotik Routerboards are used by wireless providers for their core network for this reason. The overpriced Asus RT N66U I've seen recommended here lots of times is 200mW, the Mikrotik is 1000mW. Also, generic household routers have weaker cpu's and limit TCP connections so they don't get swamped with heavy bittorrent whereas the Mikrotik can handle whatever you throw at it as it's packet per second count is much higher.

    Click on routerboard on left and you see what they specialise in: http://routerboard.com/products

    Edit, I'm not saying the FritzBox is a poor router, just it isn't anywhere near the features or value for money of the Mikrotik


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    #49
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    smee again wrote: »
    Edit, I'm not saying the FritzBox is a poor router, just it isn't anywhere near the features or value for money of the Mikrotik
    Which one of those RouterBoards would be comparable to say a FritzBox 7360 for its feature set? (sorry but there are many products listed on that page and you appear familiar with their line up)


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    smee again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    murphaph wrote: »
    Which one of those RouterBoards would be comparable to say a FritzBox 7360 for its feature set? (sorry but there are many products listed on that page and you appear familiar with their line up)

    None come with a built in modem like the FritzBox, they make routers, so you'd need to bridge your existing modem. No telephony either, Mikrotik's expertise is in low cost routing and wireless, all for a lot less than a Cisco. The RB951 comes with 5x Gigabit and a USB port. The linux operating system (RouterOS) is really powerful and highly configurable, there are guides and scripts for whatever you need on here and their forum (very helpful community). It's an affordable wireless router that does all routing protocols (RIP, BGP, OSPF etc), layer 2 protocols (MPLS, L2TP, PPTP, EoIP etc) , vlans and switching protocols, virtual AP, hotspot, traffic queues, bandwidth shaping etc. even does MPLS where the cheapest Cisco to do MPLS costs thousands.

    The cheapest I can find the FritzBox is ~€150 + Shipping (average €200+), the RB951 €47 plus VAT and Shipping here: http://www.interprojekt.com.pl/mikrotik-routerboard-rb951g2hnd-level-128mb-p-1370.html

    Make no mistake, these are an enterprise router much like a Cisco, there is a huge learning curve, but it's worth it for all they can do. Trust me, these things are crazy value


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    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    smee again wrote: »
    None come with a built in modem like the FritzBox, they make routers, so you'd need to bridge your existing modem. No telephony either, Mikrotik's expertise is in low cost routing and wireless, all for a lot less than a Cisco. The RB951 comes with 5x Gigabit and a USB port. The linux operating system (RouterOS) is really powerful and highly configurable, there are guides and scripts for whatever you need on here and their forum (very helpful community). It's an affordable wireless router that does all routing protocols (RIP, BGP, OSPF etc), layer 2 protocols (MPLS, L2TP, PPTP, EoIP etc) , vlans and switching protocols, virtual AP, hotspot, traffic queues, bandwidth shaping etc. even does MPLS where the cheapest Cisco to do MPLS costs thousands.

    The cheapest I can find the FritzBox is ~€150 + Shipping (average €200+), the RB951 €47 plus VAT and Shipping here: http://www.interprojekt.com.pl/mikrotik-routerboard-rb951g2hnd-level-128mb-p-1370.html

    Make no mistake, these are an enterprise router much like a Cisco, there is a huge learning curve, but it's worth it for all they can do. Trust me, these things are crazy value
    I think we're comparing apples and oranges, don't you? The 47 + vat excludes a case and power supply, right? You also have to add the cost of a modem and a PBX to the cost of the mikrotik to make any sort of fair price comparison!


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    #52
    smee again
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    murphaph wrote: »
    I think we're comparing apples and oranges, don't you? The 47 + vat excludes a case and power supply, right? You also have to add the cost of a modem and a PBX to the cost of the mikrotik to make any sort of fair price comparison!

    The RB951 comes in a plastic case and comes with a power supply. The OP asked about a suitable wireless router and already have a suitable modem to bridge. The suggestions were the Fritzbox, Draytek and Asus, all in the 200 quid bracket. They never asked for telephony, DECT or PBX, there is no mention in this thread that they even use their phone (many don't), they just want a solution to a gaming problem which requires a decent router. Then they added that they've not got the budget to pay for anything at all, so the Mikrotik is the most affordable.


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    #53
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    smee again wrote: »
    The RB951 comes in a plastic case and comes with a power supply. The OP asked about a suitable wireless router and already have a suitable modem to bridge. The suggestions were the Fritzbox, Draytek and Asus, all in the 200 quid bracket. They never asked for telephony, DECT or PBX, there is no mention in this thread that they even use their phone (many don't), they just want a solution to a gaming problem which requires a decent router. Then they added that they've not got the budget to pay for anything at all, so the Mikrotik is the most affordable.
    Ok, I thought you were making a general comparison between the products, not a specific comparison for the OP's needs.

    I just saw your comment that lumped the FitzBox range in with the dross Zyxel that Eircom supply and posted based on that.

    Indeed the OP should not spend money on features he doesn't need/want, but I wasn't suggesting he should, just highlighting why a FritzBox is not the same as your average ISP supplied router/modem (in Ireland-my German ISP gave me the FritzBox for free).

    An issue with stringing together several devices to provide the built in functionality of a FritzBox is that you must power all those devices separately and most people leave these things plugged in and switched on 24/7, so power consumption should also be a factor in any decision to purchase A over B.


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    Cuddlesworth
    Registered Users Posts: 13,980 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    smee again wrote: »
    Mikrotik are an enterprise router and Mikrotik Routerboards are used by wireless providers for their core network for this reason. The overpriced Asus RT N66U I've seen recommended here lots of times is 200mW, the Mikrotik is 1000mW.

    The higher the transmit power, the worse the interference for the other wifi devices. There are plenty of valid reasons why transmit power is limited.
    smee again wrote: »
    None come with a built in modem like the FritzBox, they make routers, so you'd need to bridge your existing modem. No telephony either, Mikrotik's expertise is in low cost routing and wireless, all for a lot less than a Cisco. The RB951 comes with 5x Gigabit and a USB port. The linux operating system (RouterOS) is really powerful and highly configurable, there are guides and scripts for whatever you need on here and their forum (very helpful community). It's an affordable wireless router that does all routing protocols (RIP, BGP, OSPF etc), layer 2 protocols (MPLS, L2TP, PPTP, EoIP etc) , vlans and switching protocols, virtual AP, hotspot, traffic queues, bandwidth shaping etc. even does MPLS where the cheapest Cisco to do MPLS costs thousands.

    The cheapest I can find the FritzBox is ~€150 + Shipping (average €200+), the RB951 €47 plus VAT and Shipping here: http://www.interprojekt.com.pl/mikrotik-routerboard-rb951g2hnd-level-128mb-p-1370.html

    Make no mistake, these are an enterprise router much like a Cisco, there is a huge learning curve, but it's worth it for all they can do. Trust me, these things are crazy value

    I'm really interested in one and started playing with RouterOS today on a VM.

    But...... for the normal household user, who gives a crap about 99% of its features? All the average home user really wants is a box they plug into a wall and it works. Devices like the Asus box do that and do it well.

    Keeping in mind I have one, in a house with more enterprise networking equipment then most small company's.

    Fritz box sounds amazing by the way. I can't think of another single device that would have that feature set, it would have to be at least three.


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    smee again
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    murphaph wrote: »
    I just saw your comment that lumped the FitzBox range in with the dross Zyxel that Eircom supply and posted based on that.

    Apologies, on re-reading I see you were not recommending the OP buying one, but now see you were supplied one. Yes, it would be miles better than any Zyxel, two tin cans and string would be better than Zyxel. Very few providers supply a decent router in this country. The Fritzbox does look great, I'd have to question whether it's worth spending ~€150+ on though, only if you needed all the functions.
    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    But...... for the normal household user, who gives a crap about 99% of its features? All the average home user really wants is a box they plug into a wall and it works. Devices like the Asus box do that and do it well.

    Agreed, but here and all over the internet the Asus RT N66U gets recommended, it's nearly €200 and is nothing more than a router with bells and whistles. TheMikrotik is about a third of that price and with the default config it ships with it works as a normal gateway router out of the box. Anyone I've convinced to buy a Mikrotik has been amazed at how much it's improved their connection, every house needs a router to cache DNS requests :p


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    #56
    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    Fritz box sounds amazing by the way. I can't think of another single device that would have that feature set, it would have to be at least three.
    Ah they're just the business-so many features in one little box. With the FritzFon app installed on our Android phones, the GF can call me from her phone (or one of the DECT handsets) from somewhere else in the house/garden-all via the FritzBox (WiFi).

    You can also set alarm calls to specific or all phones in house, you can restrict internet access to certain devices (great for kids-you can control exactly WHEN they surf. You can also create black/whitelists of sites, block HTTPS requests and so on).

    You can set the DNS's you want to use in the box (my last router which was also made by AVM but was an ISP "hacked down" version) couldn't do that-you had to set DNS's manually in each device and that's not even easy in Android devices, for example. Being able to set your DNS's in the router is extremely useful if you use something like overplay smart DNS to get around geoblocking to watch iPlayer & Co.

    You can also set up VPNs with a FritzBox: I can access my home network through a VPN that is set up in the FritzBox itself (see here)


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    #57
    smee again
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    murphaph wrote: »

    You can set the DNS's you want to use in the box (my last router which was also made by AVM but was an ISP "hacked down" version) couldn't do that-you had to set DNS's manually in each device and that's not even easy in Android devices, for example. Being able to set your DNS's in the router is extremely useful if you use something like overplay smart DNS to get around geoblocking to watch iPlayer & Co.

    Do you mean different DNS servers given out through DHCP to different devices? If so, that's a very good feature. If it's just being able to set a different DNS server to the one given in PPPoE, most routers allow this, the Eircom Netopia even does.


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    murphaph
    Registered Users Posts: 19,018 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    No it's just the basic variant. You're right, any half decent router should allow this, but as I mentioned, I had a Deutsche Telekom W503V that didn't, which really sucks when you run android devices (or any device that doesn't make it easy to change DNS entries) and want to use a smart DNS type service.

    I recently set up the VPN feature in my FritzBox....it's reassuring to know I can use open WiFi networks securely via my home network through a VPN tunnel. AVM even provide a nifty (if you have access to a WIndows machine) little config file generator where you enter in the user details, password etc. and it spits out a config file that you import into the router. It then shows you in the overview which users are connected via VPN at any given time.

    It's a "zero cost" feature for me: I leave my FritzBox on all the time, so being able to get a VPN to my home network without additional hardware is a real bonus in my eyes. You can easily connect natively to the FritzBox (uses IPSEC) VPN from later model Android devices (4.0 on I think) and I even got my GF's old HTC Legend (running 2.3 or something, Cyanogenmod 7 anyway) to connect using the "VPNC Widget", but the device has to be rooted for that widget to work.

    Oh, another nice feature is that the user interface has a MOBILE version, so you can check your modem on the go with a smartphone and everything is still easily reachable without lots of crazy side to side scrolling! I wonder how many routers have mobile versions of their user interface?! Not many I bet. Many of them are barely usable on desktops!


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    Alun
    Registered Users Posts: 21,418 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Cuddlesworth wrote: »
    The higher the transmit power, the worse the interference for the other wifi devices. There are plenty of valid reasons why transmit power is limited.
    Indeed. Not only that, but the maximum EIRP at the antenna in the EU for unlicensed 2.4GHz is 100mW, so if you really are putting out 1000mW or 1W at the antenna then not only are you breaking the law but probably seriously pissing off your immediate neighbours too.

    Having said that, there are valid reasons for allowing over 100mW power output from the WiFi radio itself, including allowing for the losses introduced by long extension cables to external antennas for example.


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    smee again
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    RouterOS allows you to set the country and it will apply regulations. You can also reduce power to acceptable level if you need to. If you have a house with no houses beside you I don't see the problem (or empty houses like I have).


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    Boogietime
    Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭Boogietime


    daveh077 wrote: »
    Hi, I was wondering if you could provide some basic instructions so I could bridge my efibre router to my netopia, efibre's signal is terrible but the netopia reached the entire house.

    I have them cabled together just lacking the required settings to make it all work.

    If I do this and only use the netopia for wireless while having the efibre router to do just the routing do I still lose half my bandwidth like a traditional repeater would lose it?


    later edit: looks like there is a way to set up the netopia as a wireless repeater. A friend will mail me the link with the instructions and I'll post it here


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