Gardai or Security for Spanish Arch

Shakti wrote: »

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Great response, i take my hat off to you. I am no match for your intellectual prowess in debating social issues. I now feel embarrased by my response as your smiley has certainly shown me the fallacy of my opinion.

zarquon wrote: »

Underage drinking=breaking the law.

If they are underage then that's a separate issue but any of the young ones I've seen down there look like college students.

Drinking in public=breaking the law.

Like I said this isn't a law that's ever been enforced in Galway, it would destroy our festivals for a start. It's ok for some to do it but not other?

Littering their empty cans and bottles=breaking the law.

As I said the last time, that should be dealt with and it's not difficult to do.

Those who grow up engaging in such activities embarassingly continue to support such activities in their adulthood. Perhaps some of these posters should comeback and read their posts in 10, 20 or even 30 years time

My opinion hasn't changed since I was in my 20s in Galway and it won't change either, because there's nothing wrong with sitting outside with friends having a drink.

when they are watching their own kids out and about bushing, etc. Will you congratulate your own 14/15 year old daughter for tarting herself up with about 10 layers of makeup and a lack of clothing that would be out of place on a miami beach and watch as she downs vodka mixers and buckie on street corners whilst idiotic hormone driven young fellas demonstrate their coolness by shouting obscenities and throwing themselves at your daughters. Maybe you'll be superimpressed by your sons who go out on their "shifting" and "shagging" and getting "locked" in celebration of their junior certs! Would those would be dads currently in support of such behaviour, be giving their future (or current) sons high fives for their shenanigans.

Give Joe Duffy a call he loves this kind of nonsense.

zarquon wrote: »

I could debate the point further but engaging a mod of "zombie survival" would clearly not benefit either of us as your atitude has clearly not developed much beyond your younger days as indicative of some of your previous posts. Of course i could be completely wrong and you could have been a complete header in your youth, in which case your more passive support stance right now would still be a sign of maturity over your younger days.

BTW, i like how you differentiate between the fact that littering whilst not enforced, should be and that public drinking is not enforced so is fine. By your logical reasoning, as littering laws are not really enforced it is an acceptable social norm.

You disagree with littering and agree it should be enforced as a law. You agree with public drinking and disagree that it should be enforced as a law. Your are contradicting yourself, you either want the law enforced as a whole or you don't!. You can't just pick and chose which laws should be enforced or neglected based on your ideals. Many people would look at the littering issue and tell you its no harm either as people are paid to pick it up and look upon your stance the way you look upon my atitude towards public drunken behaviour. The terms pot, kettle and black come to mind

With the Galway races coming up I'm genuinely interested in your opinion of adults doing the exact same thing these youngsters are doing. The only difference is 15-20 years and a suit.

Do you think everything you've mentioned previously (except for underage drinking) should be enforced on the adults (drinking in public/littering) on what is probably the busiest week in Galway as well as the largest crowd at the spanish arch?

GarIT wrote: »

I will go back and answer everything when I get a chance but I have a quick post to follow the style of everyone else.

Discriminating against a whole group of people for the actions of a small few = breaking the law.
Making false accusations about a whole group of people rather than picking out the individual culprits = breaking the law.
Slander without due cause = breaking the law.
Discriminating against someone based on their appearance = breaking the law.
Trying to force people out of a public place where they have a right to be = breaking the law.

Making up laws to support your "argument" = priceless.

It seems to me that a few people on this thread would be best served to relax a bit and even ... have a drink.

fishy fishy wrote: »

right, you haven't been to Galway for five years....so you actually have no clue about the Spanish Arch or what goes on down there. Yet you seem to having such an attitude on this forum because people are going on about what was going on down there on Saturday night. You were there, haven't been here for five years yet you are up in arms at the people who were there.

if you are this bad on boards, I'd hate to see your attitude face to face. Maybe something to think about - there could be a REASON people look at you they way they do. Angry at the world, and not even a hint that you might be affecting more vulnerable people in the way you hang out at corners.

A lot to think about there

I see once again you refuse to answer any questions about your arguement. So I will ask again as I will keep doing until you answer. The problem is you can't answer because it will show how pathetic you are.

So once again, has any young person harmed you in any way physically or mentally? Have you seen anyone being harmed by young people? Why were you intimidated by a group of teenagers? Why were you scared of the group of teenagers? Are you sure that all of the young people were doing all of what you said?

As I have already said I am defending the young people that you are attacking. The behaviour of young people is universal, I don't think it is too different to young people anywhere else.

I am not up in arms about anything, you are, I am defending the innocent victims among the group of young people you are not attacking without reason.

I highly doubt it, I fell that it is just because some older people take the media too seriously and the things about young people in the media are completely blown out of proportion and are used to label all young people.

I don't feel angry but thank you for the analysis Dr. Dodges questions (P.H.D. in child psychology) it is much apprecited.

Sorry but who was vulnerable?

I won't be participating in this thread anymore unless/until you reply to my questions.

You are attacking defenseless young people that have done no known harm to anyone. A lot to think about there big man.

GarIT wrote: »

I won't be participating in this thread anymore unless/until you reply to my questions.

For the love of Christ, fishy fishy - don't do it!

Ficheall wrote: »

For the love of Christ, fishy fishy - don't do it!

Why, are you scared of an arguement that points out the mistreatment of young people and may make some adults think twice about how they treat people?

GarIT wrote: »

Why, are you scared of an arguement that points out the mistreatment of young people and may make some adults think twice about how they treat people?

No, it's because it's boring as ****.

I'll take it, biko. For the sake of my sanity.

Shakti wrote: »

Is that what its come to so 'if you don't like paying off our debt why don't you just f*ck off to oz' I wouldn't take a thousand tourists over one young citizen of Galway but again it's not surprising they do leave here in there hundreds of thousands when you call them knackers* and hoodies etc. and begrudge them even to gather.

*using the terms knacker,knackers and knacker drinking as descriptive terms for a person is dehumanising think of the tourists who might be reading this.

I'm afraid to think about it.For the opposite reasoning you are using.