Brothers wreck pub,90k bill in Damages....WTF??

PeakOutput wrote: »

so we have pikeys who think they can do what they want

gardai who cant overwhelm a couple of drunk lads in a confined space

Gardai retreated until the public order unit arrived at 8.20 pm and while they attempted to gain entry David sprayed a fire extinguisher out through a broken window. They successfully reclaimed the pub at 8.45pm.

and a load of eejits standing around with nothing better to do then record it and stick it up on youtube and face****

sometimes......i despair for ireland

You know what? You probably think that you're a good, kind, liberal soul who is kind to children and small animals, but there is a very good chance that you are, in fact, nothing but a racist bigot and you should be ashamed of yourself.

How do you test this?

Well, here's a simple way -- when police raided the Dunsink halting site a few years back, they found thousands of euros worth of stolen power tools; counterfeiting equipment; illegal diesel; stolen cars and a large cache of illegal fireworks (in fairness, we've all used fireworks at some stage, so there's no point in getting on our high horses over that one).

Six people were arrested in the operation.

Now, do you think that was a good day's work from the gardai? Well, then you're a racist, because that operation directly targeted a particular group in society.

Or how about the practice of setting up shop on football pitches?

It's a bloody infuriating scam involving Travellers demanding money from parents to move on so their kids can simply play a game of ball. Now, do you think that's a scam or simply a desperate attempt by a noble, nomadic tribe to find somewhere to live?

I remember talking to Vincent Browne about this a few years ago and he exploded with his tiresome, manufactured outrage that anyone who objected to Travellers setting on pitches was racist.

But what about all the other fields that were adjacent to the pitches in the incident I referred to? That wasn't the point, he harrumphed; I, as a kid who just wanted to play football and any of the parents who objected to being blackmailed were, you guessed it, racist.

This kind of mind-boggling stupidity was at the heart of a rather farcical and unsuccessful RTE TV debate earlier week.

According to Travellers' spokespeople, any objection to their way of life was simply an exercise in bigotry, prejudice and racism.

Using the 'R' word is the first resort of the intellectually feeble.

After all, we're all part of one society and the constant beating of the same drum about racism and bigotry detracts from the argument.

Indeed, their constant arguing for recognition of separate ethnic status is little more than a cynical ruse to pave the way for more compo claims on the basis of racial discrimination.

But while they are utterly wrong on the race card, they are equally as correct when they complain about facing prejudice.

The problem there, however, is that the prejudice they encounter is often of their own making.

One of the most common complaints is how they're not allowed into pubs and hotels, and one particular source of annoyance is the fact that when there's a Traveller wedding or funeral, pubs in the locality will close.

This, we are informed, is another example of marginalising their community.

But let's try something new and exciting for a moment, shall we? Let's try to use a bit of logic.

What sort of bar owner wants to lose money? Have you ever met a publican who would happily lose a day's takings simply because his loathing of Travellers is so intense that he is prepared to cut off his economic nose to spite his racist face?

It. Doesn't. Make. Sense.

The problems within the Traveller community can only be solved by one group -- Travellers themselves. Not the State; not the countless quangos set up to protect them; not the half-wit sociologists who reckon they can make a name for themselves by conducting spurious research in the name of ethnology; and certainly not the settled community, who just want to be left in peace.

And the answer to the problem lies in education.

The only way they can escape the cycle of ignorance and poverty is to take a large sandblaster to that chip on their shoulder and realise that whingeing about people being mean to them is not going to solve anything.

Let's put it this way -- some Traveller leaders like to appropriate the language of the American civil rights movement in their use of laughably ridiculous phrases such as "the white, settled community".

Well, while we're at it -- take a look at Bill Cosby.

Cosby tore his own black community a new one a few years ago when he slammed parents for not ensuring their kids went to school -- as he famously said, "We have millionaire black basketball players who can't write a full paragraph" -- and he utterly castigated the speed with which blacks and their leaders blamed Whitey for all their problems.

What the Travellers need right now is their own Bill Cosby; someone from the inside who will stand up, say enough of the bull****, it's time to start talking some uncomfortable home truths.

But I won't be holding my breath.

And, obviously, I'm being racist . . .

- Ian O'Doherty

Irish Independent

rovert wrote: »

Im not trolling just making fun at people's outrage over a type of sentence that is more serious than they think.

aDeener wrote: »

explain how it is more serious than an average AH'er would think?