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10 More Years Of Austerity - John Bruton

  • 28-05-2014 9:28pm
    #1
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭


    Something to look forward to:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/john-bruton-ireland-faces-10-more-years-of-austerity-budgets-1.1812651

    Looks like from his position (not seeking election) that he is talking straight.

    "Mr Bruton said the Irish people themselves had passed a referendum on the EU Fiscal Compact treaty which commits Ireland to reducing the debt/GDP ratio from 120 per cent to 60 per cent.

    That referendum was passed by an almost two to one margin in 2012."

    Couple this with two more E2bn budgets of cuts/savings/tax increases and it's hard to be optimistic.

    It's almost refreshing to not hear of turning corners and green shoots.


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  • #2
    Borderfox
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    I had forgotten who he was then I seen his picture, ruined my night seeing that areshole again. Jabba the hut head on him with the doom and gloom


  • #3
    Corvo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭Corvo


    *books ticket to Canada*


  • #4
    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Great news!


  • #5
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Going Forward wrote: »
    Something to look forward to:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/john-bruton-ireland-faces-10-more-years-of-austerity-budgets-1.1812651

    Looks like from his position (not seeking election) that he is talking straight.

    "Mr Bruton said the Irish people themselves had passed a referendum on the EU Fiscal Compact treaty which commits Ireland to reducing the debt/GDP ratio from 120 per cent to 60 per cent.

    That referendum was passed by an almost two to one margin in 2012."

    Couple this with two more E2bn budgets of cuts/savings/tax increases and it's hard to be optimistic.

    It's almost refreshing to not hear of turning corners and green shoots.

    I'd say his next call from his brother will be a laugh.


  • #6
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Borderfox wrote: »
    I had forgotten who he was then I seen his picture, ruined my night seeing that areshole again. Jabba the hut head on him with the doom and gloom

    Well that's really demolished his argument. I was worried but then you said he looked like Jabba.


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  • #7
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    But...we never had austerity? :confused:

    Pre-boom level budgets and hardship for many, yes, but austerity seems to have been redefined because Ireland actually hasn't had it. Or maybe with the apparent redefinition it has? :confused:


  • #8
    comongethappy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    If he is keen to get back to massive annual deficits that the workers have to pay back, then he's off his trolley.


  • #9
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    John says we haven't experienced austerity yet.

    From his Garda guarded mansion in Kildare. Probably.


  • #10
    Arthur Beesley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Corvo wrote: »
    *books ticket to Canada*

    When are you heading off?


  • #11
    Aidric
    Registered Users Posts: 13,589 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Unfortunately John is symptomatic of the dangerous and lazy group think in Europe that was served a wake up call in the recent elections.

    The combination of apathy and protest votes should serve as a wake up call to the EU leaders.


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  • #12
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Banjo String wrote: »
    John says we haven't experienced austerity yet.

    From his Garda guarded mansion in Kildare. Probably.

    I think, he lives somewhere on Griffith Avenue, so I heard


  • #13
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    I think, he lives somewhere on Griffith Avenue, so I heard

    No he lives in Kildare.

    Right next door to me actually. I'm half thinking of getting a few Garda outside the house like he has. Call it keeping up with the Brutons.


  • #14
    jjbrien
    Registered Users Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭jjbrien


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    I think, he lives somewhere on Griffith Avenue, so I heard

    His Bro Richard Bruton is the one on Griffith Avenue


  • #15
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    jjbrien wrote: »
    His Bro Richard Bruton is the one on Griffith Avenue

    But still, they are a nice bunch of lads, are they? :confused:


  • #16
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    But still, they are a nice bunch of lads, are they? :confused:


    No, tbh, they aren't.


  • #17
    jacksie66
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


    This post has been deleted.


  • #18
    Steppenwolfe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 416 ✭✭Steppenwolfe


    I can't abide the man, never could. I always had to switch channels whenever he came on with his smug dopey smile.


  • #19
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Nodin wrote: »
    No, tbh, they aren't.

    I know, they are not. I met Richard and John looks like Bertie Ahern with a fake moustache on the picture in that link.

    Was just trying to be a bit sarcastic, which is a good way to defeat politicians, who betray the electorate and lie to their very own people.


  • #20
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Austerity doesn't have to mean the lower earners take most of the burden.


  • #21
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Austerity doesn't have to mean the lower earners take most of the burden.

    yeah, but somehow, I'm gonna bet it does mean just that.


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  • #22
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    yeah, but somehow, I'm gonna bet it does mean just that.

    Exactly. There's no such thing as anti pr pro austerity in a recession. The only disagreement is where that austerity falls.


  • #23
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Exactly. There's no such thing as anti pr pro austerity in a recession. The only disagreement is where that austerity falls.

    Whenever I hear a Politician advocating/selling austerity, I always think of Haughey - "We have to tighten our belts" - I always wonder how tight their belts will be tightened. The answer is usually not very. "We" is a wonderfully un-inclusive word.


  • #24
    WakeUp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    At the top of the Irish times article it says this "former Taoiseach says only 30 per cent of Irelands debt is from bank bailout" only. really.

    What it should say is current chairman of IFSC Ireland says only 30 percent of Irelands debt is from bank bailout. For Bruton to tacitly imply that this figure is insignificant is disingenous. tell the people the truth John and the truth is that a write down of that debt would make a significant difference. And while youre at it have a word to your FG mate Noonan and tell him to release the letter from the former president of the ECB to Brian Lenihan, unilaterally. The ECB have blocked the release of Jean-Claude Trichets letter where its specualted they threatened us that they would cut of our emergency funding if we refused to enter their bailout programme. Its in the national and public interest to release this letter, unilaterally if need be.


  • #25
    ryan101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭ryan101


    Going Forward wrote: »
    Something to look forward to:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/john-bruton-ireland-faces-10-more-years-of-austerity-budgets-1.1812651

    Looks like from his position (not seeking election) that he is talking straight.

    "Mr Bruton said the Irish people themselves had passed a referendum on the EU Fiscal Compact treaty which commits Ireland to reducing the debt/GDP ratio from 120 per cent to 60 per cent.

    That referendum was passed by an almost two to one margin in 2012."

    Couple this with two more E2bn budgets of cuts/savings/tax increases and it's hard to be optimistic.

    It's almost refreshing to not hear of turning corners and green shoots.

    I wonder what austerity Mr Bruton has had to endure ?


  • #26
    delw
    Registered Users Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    I think, he lives somewhere on Griffith Avenue, so I heard
    Banjo String wrote: »
    No he lives in Kildare.

    Right next door to me actually. I'm half thinking of getting a few Garda outside the house like he has. Call it keeping up with the Brutons.
    Maybe he has two gaffs


  • #27
    Tail Docker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    ryan101 wrote: »
    I wonder what austerity Mr Bruton has had to endure ?

    Not a feckin iota, and he never will either. :)


  • #28
    Going Forward
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭Going Forward


    Borderfox wrote: »
    I had forgotten who he was then I seen his picture, ruined my night seeing that areshole again. Jabba the hut head on him with the doom and gloom

    I just can't help thinking of his "Donkey Laugh" from Scrap Saturday years ago.


  • #29
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users Posts: 8,304 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Tail Docker wrote: »
    Not a feckin iota, and he never will either. :)

    He's had his €150k pension reduced to €120k. Merkel will get €75k when she retires. Yep, I wonder why we're broke......


  • #30
    comongethappy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭comongethappy


    ryan101 wrote: »
    I wonder what austerity Mr Bruton has had to endure ?

    He was on the Sean O'Rourke show this morning saying he can now only afford no more than €300 on body glitter per month.


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  • #31
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,468 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Austerity doesn't have to mean the lower earners take most of the burden.

    it would make a nice change though.


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