Ireland vs Barbarians Gloucester, 29 May NO TV, NO STREAMS.

Fishooks12 · 20-05-2012 2:42pm #1

Forwards (13):

Rory Best, Tom Court, Stephen Ferris, Declan Fitzpatrick, Chris Henry, Ronan Loughney, John Muldoon, Donncha O'Callaghan, Peter O'Mahony, Donnacha Ryan, Mike Sherry, Dan Tuohy, A.N.Other.

Backs (11):

Darren Cave, Keith Earls, Craig Gilroy, Paul Marshall, Conor Murray, Ronan O'Gara, Nevin Spence, Andrew Trimble, Paddy Wallace, Simon Zebo, A.N. Other.

Bit of a nothing game really but a good chance for some of the Ulster players wrongly overlooked in the past to show what they can do

I'd go with:

15 K Earls
14 Andrew Trimble
13 Darren Cave
12 Paddy Wallace
11 Craig Gilroy
10 ROG
9 Murray
8 POM
7 Henry
6 Muldoon
5 Touhy
4 D Ryan
3 Fitzpatrick
2 Sherry
1 Court

Best and Ferris deserve a rest

Tox56 · 20-05-2012 2:50pm

Maybe Loughney ahead of Court but the team really should pick itself.

RoundBox11 · 20-05-2012 5:45pm

I'd personally have Loughney ahead of Fitzpatrick at tighthead purely because i think he deserves it more. Loughney's been playing well at tighhead this season and put in a good shift considering he used to be a loosehead.
I just feel a lot of the calls for Fitzpatrick to start are based on that one performance against Edinburgh (not that i don't think he should be in the 22 against the barbarians , i think he could be the answer to our problems at TH if he manages to get more gametime)

I'd also start Henry at 8 and O'Mahony at 7. I know Henry is probably the better 7 than POM and that he's been playing their all season, but i think Henry is more of an 8 that POM and has far more experience in that role, especially given the fact that theres not a whole lot between them at 7.

Hagz · 20-05-2012 6:01pm

There's very little to get exited about looking at that team. I'd prefer to pick the team I'd expect Kidney to pick rather than mine, in which case.

1. Court
2. Best
3. Fitzpatrick
4. O'Callaghan
5. Ryan
6. Ferris
7. O'Mahony
8. Muldoon
9. Murray
10. O'Gara
11. Zebo
12. Wallace
13. Earls
14. Trimble
15. Gilroy/Duffy

16. Sherry
17. Loughney
18. Tuohy
19. Henry
20. Marshall
21. Madigan /Keatley
22. Cave

Fishooks12 · 20-05-2012 6:23pm

Starting Ferris would be madness

Blackheath · 20-05-2012 6:26pm

Hagz wrote: »

There's very little to get exited about looking at that team. I'd prefer to pick the team I'd expect Kidney to pick rather than mine, in which case.

1. Court
2. Best
3. Fitzpatrick
4. O'Callaghan
5. Ryan
6. Ferris
7. O'Mahony
8. Muldoon
9. Murray
10. O'Gara
11. Zebo
12. Wallace
13. Earls
14. Trimble
15. Gilroy/Duffy

16. Sherry
17. Loughney
18. Tuohy
19. Henry
20. Marshall
21. Madigan /Keatley
22. Cave

Is Gilroy more worthy than Zebo

Fishooks12 · 20-05-2012 6:27pm

Blackheath wrote: »

Is Gilroy more worthy than Zebo

They both deserve a run tbh. Both still have a bit more developing to do

Teferi · 20-05-2012 6:28pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Starting Ferris would be madness

I hope somebody in the set up realises this. If he keeps playing like he is he won't make it to 30 as a professional rugby player.

Fishooks12 · 20-05-2012 6:30pm

Teferi wrote: »

I hope somebody in the set up realises this. If he keeps playing like he is he won't make it to 30 as a professional rugby player.

He should be given the summer off. It's not like we're so stuck for 6's that we need to bring him

Hagz · 20-05-2012 6:31pm

Blackheath wrote: »

Is Gilroy more worthy than Zebo

Toss up really. That's why I'd expect Kidney to go with Zebo.

Tox56 · 20-05-2012 6:33pm

Hagz wrote: »

There's very little to get exited about looking at that team. I'd prefer to pick the team I'd expect Kidney to pick rather than mine, in which case.

1. Court
2. Best
3. Fitzpatrick
4. O'Callaghan
5. Ryan
6. Ferris
7. O'Mahony
8. Muldoon
9. Murray
10. O'Gara
11. Zebo
12. Wallace
13. Earls
14. Trimble
15. Gilroy/Duffy

16. Sherry
17. Loughney
18. Tuohy
19. Henry
20. Marshall
21. Madigan /Keatley
22. Cave

Would even Kidney be foolish enough to pick that team? Honestly that would really be pushing it, even for him

Fishooks12 · 20-05-2012 6:35pm

I think the fact that it's a glorified training game will make Kidney be a bit less conservative

I can't rattle off the team the last time we played the BaBaas but I think it was a bit experimental (by Kindey standards anyway)

Hagz · 20-05-2012 6:41pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

I can't rattle off the team the last time we played the BaBaas but I think it was a bit experimental (by Kindey standards anyway)

1. Marcus Horan
2. Sean Cronin
3. Tony Buckley
4. Ed O'Donoghue
5. Dan Tuohy
6. John Muldoon
7. Niall Ronan
8. Chris Henry
9. Peter Stringer
10. Ronan O'Gara
11. Andrew Trimble
12. Fergus McFadden
13. Gavin Duffy
14. Johne Murphy
15. Rob Kearney

16. Jerry Flannery
17. Tom Court
18. Mick O'Driscoll
19. Donnacha O'Callaghan
20. David Wallce
21. Tomas O'Leary
22. Tommy Bowe

porterbelly · 20-05-2012 8:28pm

Would have to pluck for Loughney over Fitzpatrick at TH

Loughney's form is based around 3/4 months, Fitzpatrick 2 games.

Not saying Loughney is going to be the new TH on the block, just I think he deserves the opportunity more on the back of a good season to put his case forward

CIARAN_BOYLE · 20-05-2012 8:46pm

porterbelly wrote: »

Would have to pluck for Loughney over Fitzpatrick at TH

Loughney's form is based around 3/4 months, Fitzpatrick 2 games.

Not saying Loughney is going to be the new TH on the block, just I think he deserves the opportunity more on the back of a good season to put his case forward

For me Fitzpatrick if its about giving a TH other than Ross a shot and blooding a potential successor, or Loughney if its about giving a potential 17 a shot who could challenge Court for the shirt.

Fitzpatrick has always done well for Ulster (except when played at LH vs Treviso) and the only reason that its about his performances in 2 games is that he was injured.

I suppose it might be decided based on whether Kidney thinks 23 man squad law trial will mean 23 man squads for all future internationals. Both are very deserving of a shot though.

Tox56 · 20-05-2012 8:50pm

porterbelly wrote: »

Would have to pluck for Loughney over Fitzpatrick at TH

Loughney's form is based around 3/4 months, Fitzpatrick 2 games.

Not saying Loughney is going to be the new TH on the block, just I think he deserves the opportunity more on the back of a good season to put his case forward

I would prefer Court on the bench and Fitz at TH, Loughney at LH, and Loughney can switch at some point. We know what Court can do.

thomond2006 · 21-05-2012 8:00am

From another thread, Court is apparently out of the tour. That will mean Loughney at LH with Fitzpatrick at TH probably. Is Brett Wilkinson fit? I haven't heard a peep about him in a while.

emmet02 · 21-05-2012 8:02am

Are there any other props available!?

There's an awful dread in me thinking that a certain M H might get a call back...

CIARAN_BOYLE · 21-05-2012 10:38am

thomond2006 wrote: »

From another thread, Court is apparently out of the tour. That will mean Loughney at LH with Fitzpatrick at TH probably. Is Brett Wilkinson fit? I haven't heard a peep about him in a while.

Wilkinson was injured for a while

porterbelly · 21-05-2012 11:34am

Wilkinson is off on holidays, he was told he was surplus

RandolphEsq · 21-05-2012 12:01pm

ROG shouldn't start, this is a great chance to start Madigan and look to the future instead of allowing ROG to fade away.

Tox56 · 21-05-2012 12:05pm

I'm happy about Madigan not going, he was never going to get much gametime anyway, and he would be exposed Kidney's tactics. Staying with Schmidt will help his developement, and he will be rested for a full pre-season. The consistent gametime in the early season will be good for him.

CatFromHue · 21-05-2012 12:45pm

RandolphEsq wrote: »

ROG shouldn't start, this is a great chance to start Madigan and look to the future instead of allowing ROG to fade away.

As ROG will be going to NZ he needs to start. Since the QF against Ulster at the start of April he's only played 55 mins or so of rugby.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 21-05-2012 12:47pm

emmet02 wrote: »

Are there any other props available!?

There's an awful dread in me thinking that a certain M H might get a call back...

Loughney at LH and Fitzpatrick at TH. At 50 minutes take off Fitzpatrick moving Loughney to TH and bring on Paddy MacAlister.

At least that would be my 3 props I think

cython · 21-05-2012 12:58pm

RandolphEsq wrote: »

ROG shouldn't start, this is a great chance to start Madigan and look to the future instead of allowing ROG to fade away.

I seem to recall Kidney saying at some stage that he wouldn't be picking players from any province(s) that were involved in the Rabo final (only Leinster, as it panned out) for this game, so that rules out Madigan for this game.

.ak · 21-05-2012 2:42pm

This is probably been asked already.. but do players earn caps against the Baabaas? I take it they don't?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 21-05-2012 2:44pm

.ak wrote: »

This is probably been asked already.. but do players earn caps against the Baabaas? I take it they don't?

usually not but Wales is awarding caps fort their match against the babas this year, (to bring Williams to 100 afaik)

Dr.Evil · 21-05-2012 5:20pm

Is Loughney really capable of covering both sides really well? I don't know him that well, but it's interesting to see a prop who can potentially do a good job both sides of the scrum!

.ak · 23-05-2012 11:17am

I see Heinke van der Merwe has been added to the Baabaa's squad. Is that Leinster's HvDM?

thomond2006 · 24-05-2012 8:00pm

Today @irfurugby tweeted:

@Barbarian_FC have confirmed NO TV for Ireland game next week.We will bring you our O2 MatchDay Live service including updates #irishrugby

:mad:

Hagz · 24-05-2012 8:01pm

What the actual f*ck

Ireland vs Barbarians Gloucester, 29 May NO TV, NO STREAMS.

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