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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Im happy with that schedule


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    What would you make of Bill O'Brien going to Penn State?

    If it does happen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Le King wrote: »
    What would you make of Bill O'Brien going to Penn State?

    If it does happen?

    He categorically denied there was even talks and his agent said he wont do college coaching. No loss if he goes though.

    http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/1/2/2676249/bill-obrien-penn-state-football-coach


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,505 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Just on BOB, didn't really think he was doing a great job in his first year but really impressed by what he had done since then. He seems to be getting better as time goes by. We certainly have improved in run blocking over the last two seasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Just on BOB, didn't really think he was doing a great job in his first year but really impressed by what he had done since then. He seems to be getting better as time goes by. We certainly have improved in run blocking over the last two seasons.

    Our Run blocking wouldn't be down to O'Brien. Honestly the bumping up of Ferentz to TE coach has helped, Him and Scarnecchia seem to be working well together when it comes to run blocking.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 37,505 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Our Run blocking wouldn't be down to O'Brien. Honestly the bumping up of Ferentz to TE coach has helped, Him and Scarnecchia seem to be working well together when it comes to run blocking.
    Yeah I get what you are saying but overall there is a lot more balance to the offense and I'm sure he had a say in the assistant coaching jobs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    More developments!
    Jaguars requested and received permission to interview Patriots OC Bill O’Brien, who still is squarely on Penn St.'S radar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭Le King


    He categorically denied there was even talks and his agent said he wont do college coaching. No loss if he goes though.

    http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2012/1/2/2676249/bill-obrien-penn-state-football-coach

    Yeah, I read that all right.

    Would be of the same opinion that he wouldn't be any great loss all right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    According to ESPN Bill O'Brien will be announced on Saturday as the new Head Coach of Penn State!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭f1dan


    I assume the new coordinator will be an in-house promotion similar to previous years.

    I've read stories about Josh McDaniels possibly coming back but I highly doubt he'd leave St. Louis now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭f1dan


    f1dan wrote: »
    I assume the new coordinator will be an in-house promotion similar to previous years.

    I've read stories about Josh McDaniels possibly coming back but I highly doubt he'd leave St. Louis now.

    Maybe I was wrong.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/06/patriots-and-chiefs-seek-to-speak-to-mcdaniels


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    yeah all the talk seems to be mainly on McDaniels.

    As long as we have Brady it wont matter too much.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    McDaniels is back, and in the setup already. the one things at least he brings is that the Rams have played a lot of the playoffs teams left, so should have some scouting report on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭f1dan


    Lads, why is it so quiet on this thread? We have a home playoff game tonight with an excellent chance of winning. Is everyone just nervous about Tebow and afraid to tempt fate by predicting a win?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    f1dan wrote: »
    Lads, why is it so quiet on this thread? We have a home playoff game tonight with an excellent chance of winning. Is everyone just nervous about Tebow and afraid to tempt fate by predicting a win?

    plenty of talk on the playoff thread and the Broncos thread. havent seen anyone tip a Broncos win yet, some having a cut on long odds, but most expecting a Patriots win. That is to be expected, they are favorites for a reason. There's no reason to be afraid of Denver or temp fate by predicting a win. Theres logical reasons for predicting a Patriots win. We beat them already easily this year, and we have a better scoring offence. We went 13-3, they went 8-8. We are at home. We have a poor defence, but I dont think Tebow or the Denver offence will be the ones to see us off. There wont be any complacency I hope. Denver beating Pittsburgh should eradicate that.

    13 players listed as questionable on the injury report. Would hope that Mankins and Chung make it through it anyway. Most of the others are only there as they were limited during the week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    The only problem is, there's nothing logical about these Broncos ! All logic flies out the window when they play, which has added to a great season, with so much ups-n-downs, it's been unbelieveable.
    Logic dictates that Brady & co. easily win tonight, logic doesn't dictate that Tebow & co. come into 'your house' and 'tear it up'............right ?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭cosatron


    do pats fans think bill o brien is going to be huge loss. what his has done with the two tightends is nothing short of amazing, the plays his drawn up for them are class, especially the run play for hernandez and he doesn't take any **** from brady which is kinda cool


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    No probably not a huge loss, plenty of good assistants have come and gone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    cosatron wrote: »
    do pats fans think bill o brien is going to be huge loss. what his has done with the two tightends is nothing short of amazing, the plays his drawn up for them are class, especially the run play for hernandez and he doesn't take any **** from brady which is kinda cool

    The Runs Hernandez made were standard run plays All he did was put Hernandez in as the tailback. O'Brien was a good Coordinator but McDaniels is better play caller than him in my eyes and has some mad plays in his folder also. No big loss really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,500 ✭✭✭ReacherCreature


    Anyone know if Mark Anderson is injured?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭wonderboysam


    boom boom!

    The Rams will face the New England Patriots on October 28 in the sixth NFL International Series game at Wembley, which will be the only game being staged in the UK this year.


    http://www1.skysports.com/american-football/news/12118/7444379/Rams-to-be-London-regulars
    In what could be a huge step towards an NFL team being based in London, the St Louis Rams have signed up to play a regular season home game at Wembley for the next three years.

    The Rams will face the New England Patriots on October 28 in the sixth NFL International Series game at Wembley, which will be the only game being staged in the UK this year.

    There had been talk of multiple games being played as the sport continues to grow across the Atlantic, but the NFL have taken another route in naming a team to make regular visits.

    "The response to NFL games in the UK among our British fans has been exceptional," said commissioner Roger Goodell, who has in the past said an NFL team could one day be permanently based in the UK.

    "We are confident that having the Rams host one game in the UK in each of the next three seasons will allow us to better serve the growing popularity of our sport beyond the borders of the United States."

    Home move

    NFL owners approved a resolution last year to commit to staging regular season games in the UK for the next five years, with the number of games, venue and the teams competing all being flexible.

    The main sticking point is home teams have to give up a home game back in America, but the Rams have taken the step of committing to playing one game in the UK for the next three years.

    "This is a tremendous honor for our franchise, the city of St. Louis and our fans throughout the world," said Rams owner Stanley Kroenke, who is also majority shareholder of Arsenal.

    "We are excited about the opportunity to reach new audiences globally. This is a great platform to showcase the city of St. Louis to London and the UK.

    "We've seen first-hand the increased popularity of the NFL not only in London but throughout Europe. To play a role in that growth over the next three years will be incredible and is a testament to the many good things happening not only in the NFL but also in the St Louis Rams organisation."

    Three-year deal

    The Rams kick-off their three-year tenure in the UK at Wembley Stadium against the New England Patriots, who are currently the best-supported NFL team in the UK.

    Tom Brady and the Pats have played in London before, beating the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Wembley in 2009, and they could play this October as Super Bowl champions as they face Baltimore on Sunday in the AFC Championship.

    "We are honored to be selected for this year's game and eager to return," said New England Patriots chairman Robert Kraft. "We had such a great experience during our last visit to London.

    "We are proud to have great support from our fans when we are on the road. The United Kingdom is home to some of our most passionate Patriots fans, including the UKPatriots, who are among our most active fan clubs overall, not just overseas. We look forward to another memorable experience."

    The Rams had another poor season in the NFL, but they did have severe injury problems and have hired legendary Tennessee coach Jeff Fisher, who many believe could turn their fortunes around.

    The games in London have contributed to an increased popularity of NFL in the UK, and the league believes having a regular team coming over will only strengthen fans involvement.

    "When the initial resolution to play international regular-season games was approved in 2006, the thinking at the time was that we would have two new teams every year," said NFL Vice President of International Chris Parsons.

    "As the series evolved, we saw that having a team return to the UK on a regular basis would increase fan interest for that particular team, which in turn would drive fan growth for the entire league. We are incredibly excited to introduce a young, talented team like the Rams to our UK fans. And to do so against a team with the rich history and tradition of the Patriots makes it even more exciting."


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Lovely, they've tied the band-wagon to the Rams. It was always going to tend to be teams with weak home markets but c'mon, three years of the Rams? The NFL better hope Jeff Fisher turn around that team double-fast or this could mean trouble for the international series.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Syferus wrote: »
    Lovely, they've tied the band-wagon to the Rams. It was always going to tend to be teams with weak home markets but c'mon, three years of the Rams? The NFL better hope Jeff Fisher turn around that team double-fast or this could mean trouble for the international series.

    what has this got to do with the Pats?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    Anyone know if Mark Anderson is injured?

    He isn't on any of the injury lists for the weekend so Im guessing that means he is good to go.

    Here is the practice list from yesterday
    PATRIOTS

    Limited participation: WR Deion Branch (knee), T Marcus Cannon (ankle), S Patrick Chung (knee), LB Dane Fletcher (thumb), TE Aaron Hernandez (concussion), S James Ihedigbo (shoulder), DL Kyle Love (ankle), G Logan Mankins (knee), LB Rob Ninkovich (hip), OT Nate Solder (concussion), LB Brandon Spikes (knee), OT Sebastian Vollmer (back/foot), WR Wes Welker (knee), LB Tracy White (abdomen).

    Full participation: CB Kyle Arrington (foot), QB Tom Brady (left shoulder), C Dan Connolly (groin), WR Matthew Slater (shoulder).

    True BB style everyone is practically on it :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Just watching ESPN's Year of the....Brady started crying thinking back to how far he dropped on draft day...didn't think it'd still get to him that much after everything he's done!


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    kmart6 wrote: »
    Just watching ESPN's Year of the....Brady started crying thinking back to how far he dropped on draft day...didn't think it'd still get to him that much after everything he's done!

    Watched that a while back actually. Very good watch.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Ty Law is on Patriots All Access Live here and he's put on a good bit of weight since he finished playing!


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Why doesn't Ochocinco play much for you lads? He seems to have some very impressive stats, 6 X Pro Bowl, 3 X All-Pro, etc but only plays very limited snaps for the Patriots.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    It's been a confidence and trust thing thing all season! Then you have to look at Brady's options...Gronk and Welker first, then Hernandez, Branch and then maybe Ochocinco!

    Also haven't seen any update on whether he'll be available today, supposedly flew to Florida Friday night as his Father died during the week!

    I personally believe that they might have been keeping him quiet to break him out in a game like today or the SB...that'd make for very expensive one of performances though!


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,138 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    kmart6 wrote: »
    It's been a confidence and trust thing thing all season! Then you have to look at Brady's options...Gronk and Welker first, then Hernandez, Branch and then maybe Ochocinco!

    Also haven't seen any update on whether he'll be available today, supposedly flew to Florida Friday night as his Father died during the week!

    I personally believe that they might have been keeping him quiet to break him out in a game like today or the SB...that'd make for very expensive one of performances though!

    yeah think your first piece pretty much sums it up. He doesnt seem to be on the same wavelength as Brady, so he is going to be down his list of targets. He hasnt got used to the playbook earlier on this season, so dont know if that has improved or not. Its not much of a loss anyway, it would be worse if we were dependant on him. Shame it hasnt worked out, but there you have it. He is old enough too, and is probably a bit past it.

    Dont think the father dying will make much odds. By all accounts, he wasnt in great contact with him and wasnt sure if he would go to the funeral, but made a last minute decision to go as he felt it would be best to do so.


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