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New England Patriots thread (MOD WARNING - #4503)

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  • #122
    Justin10
    Registered Users Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭Justin10


    Sorry ye thats what I meant, on his way to New England for talks.


  • #123
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Problem now is these deals that the Redskins have given to average WRs and the Megatron deal just up the ante on what Lloyd can be expecting and Welker too.

    What do you do now? Give up on making improvements to the D and sign offensive weapons or hold on to Welker which is going to cost more than was expected and then lower your ambitions regarding a deep threat. I dunno how this will go now as the cap is going to be a big factor if you sign both Welker and Lloyd.

    Lloyd is dead to us now. No way Bill is going to spend big money on him as Lloyd knows he will get it elsewhere. And as you said we still have to sort out Welker also.


  • #124
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    Law Firm visiting Bengals.


  • #125
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    TimThomas wrote: »
    Law Firm visiting Bengals.

    I wouldnt be too worried about Law Firm. The Bengals have had about 3 ro 4 RBs in for a looksee already.

    I'm glad that Pats are being very quiet in the FA madness, especially since Eddie Royal is getting $6m a year. I cant fanthom what Llyod would want now? The 31yr old will be expecting at least $8m a year......not worth it!


  • #126
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,493 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Jonathon Fanene is apparently on the Patriots radar at the moment.


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  • #127
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    For Pats fans who may be freaking out at the moment...consider this, 24 of 32 teams have not signed a FA that was not on their team previously.

    Also the majority of the 8 teams that have signed FAs have not been contenders for years.


  • #128
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    Jonathon Fanene signs a 3 year deal apparently good signing.


  • #129
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    TimThomas wrote: »
    Jonathon Fanene signs a 3 year deal apparently good signing.

    6.5 sacks last season, 6 in 2009 as a backup (2010 injured).

    Very versitile player, can play inside and outside on the DL, good against the run, better against the pass...good signing (as long as they didnt over pay)


  • #130
    Hazys
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Danny Amendola visting the Pats...this is confusing.

    Are they planning to sign him and trade Welker? I dont see how we could fit 2 slot receivers into our offense especially since we have two excellent receivers at TE. But that doesnt even make sense as we'd have to give up a 2nd to get him and i'd say we'd struggle to get a 1st for Welker.

    I presume this is just leverage they are using in Welker's contract negotiations.


  • #131
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,493 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Amendola can play in any of the WR positions, could be a replacement for Branch too. I don't think its got anything to do with Welker.


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  • #132
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Amendola can play in any of the WR positions, could be a replacement for Branch too. I don't think its got anything to do with Welker.

    So can Welker but they are both best suited out of slot thats where the Rams played him as did Texas Tech. He is 5'11 Amendola and playing out wide is just the same as playing Welker out wide.


  • #133
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,493 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    TimThomas wrote: »
    So can Welker but they are both best suited out of slot thats where the Rams played him as did Texas Tech. He is 5'11 Amendola and playing out wide is just the same as playing Welker out wide.
    Deion Branch is only 5'9" too and it didn't affect him playing flanker or split end.


  • #134
    JaMarcus Hustle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    Would love Amendola tbh. Cracking little player, although we'd still need someone to stretch the field.

    Also, having seen the ridiculous contracts given to receivers without an ounce of his talent, Welker is gonna wanna get paid big time. His price went up the last few days.


  • #135
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Deion Branch is only 5'9" too and it didn't affect him playing flanker or split end.

    No it didn't but im not talking about Branch. Branch in his day was a baller cracking hands and a solid leap and long reach even for his size. Never the fastest guy out there but his route running and hands made up for it. Branch today is shades of the guy he used to be and without the height and lack of speed the modern game doesnt suit him.

    Amendola on the other hand granted is fast as fook but he is hardly the answer of spreading out the field for us. Branch was brought in when Bill wanted someone Brady could trust when we struggled to find a guy to throw to. Whatever about opening up the flats and the middle of the field with guys like Welker and Amendola they dont solve the deep routes. And if we pull the trigger on Amendola and dont get ourselves a deep guy we will have 2 TE and 2 WR all doing the same thing thing opening up short routes and across the middle.

    Now granted put in a deep threat and it could all work but the market for WR is getting zapped with nonsense contracts and I dont see us pulling the trigger on someone who will open up the field long for us.

    Could you imagine a team with Welker and Amendola drawing your coverage shallow and Gronk bursting the seam in the middle of the field with an Outside guy being honoured for once. the mismatches would be crazy. But it hinges on that outside guy.


  • #136
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,493 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    TimThomas wrote: »
    No it didn't but im not talking about Branch. Branch in his day was a baller cracking hands and a solid leap and long reach even for his size. Never the fastest guy out there but his route running and hands made up for it. Branch today is shades of the guy he used to be and without the height and lack of speed the modern game doesnt suit him.

    Amendola on the other hand granted is fast as fook but he is hardly the answer of spreading out the field for us. Branch was brought in when Bill wanted someone Brady could trust when we struggled to find a guy to throw to. Whatever about opening up the flats and the middle of the field with guys like Welker and Amendola they dont solve the deep routes. And if we pull the trigger on Amendola and dont get ourselves a deep guy we will have 2 TE and 2 WR all doing the same thing thing opening up short routes and across the middle.

    Now granted put in a deep threat and it could all work but the market for WR is getting zapped with nonsense contracts and I dont see us pulling the trigger on someone who will open up the field long for us.

    Could you imagine a team with Welker and Amendola drawing your coverage shallow and Gronk bursting the seam in the middle of the field with an Outside guy being honoured for once. the mismatches would be crazy. But it hinges on that outside guy.
    I totally agree we need a deep threat. All I'm saying is that I think Amendola is being looked at as a replacement for Branch. Theres no way imo that its got anything to do with Welker.


  • #137
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,493 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Steven Gregory the latest signing. Didn't stand out to me when he was a Charger but hopefully he works out great for us.


  • #138
    Justin10
    Registered Users Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭Justin10


    He dosnt stand out but he is solid enough player.


  • #139
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,493 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Great news now, Dan Connolly has signed up for a new contract. I don't know the details but I'm delighted with this. He did very well at center last season and its great to have him back.


  • #140
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    Lloyd close to signing with Pats.


  • #141
    JaMarcus Hustle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭JaMarcus Hustle


    TimThomas wrote: »
    Lloyd close to signing with Pats.

    Laron Landry is visiting this weekend too and the same article says we're confident of landing him aswell. Would be a nice addition, a bit injury prone but hopefully he can put it behind him. Looks like he's spent a lot of time in the weights room this offseason!

    landrygiant0212.jpg


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  • #142
    Stev_o
    Registered Users Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭Stev_o


    JaMarcus Hustle wrote: »
    Laron Landry is visiting this weekend too and the same article says we're confident of landing him aswell. Would be a nice addition, a bit injury prone but hopefully he can put it behind him. Looks like he's spent a lot of time in the weights room this offseason!

    landrygiant0212.jpg

    What a disaster of an athlete. Why in gods name you'd want your biceps to be that large playing in such a vital position such as safety is beyond me.


  • #143
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    Stev_o wrote: »
    What a disaster of an athlete. Why in gods name you'd want your biceps to be that large playing in such a vital position such as safety is beyond me.

    He is a strong safety. If he was a free safety I could see your point as you would want him being more of a ball hawk but strong safeties need to be a mix of both strong and agile.


  • #144
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    ProFootballTalk ‏ @ProFootballTalk Patriots want Brandon Lloyd to lower his asking price

    The fact Lloyd is struggling to find someone to pay him and he has already said he would join us you think he would just sign work his ass off and put himself in a position to actually demand more later on.


  • #145
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    Seems Condon and the Pats are hitting logger heads again. Wonder if the Pats are trying to make Condon quit again :D
    Lloyd contract struggle dusts off Condon vs. Pats feud


  • #146
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    Id say Lloyd is a no go now:
    New England Patriots announced the signing of unrestricted free agent wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez today.


  • #147
    TimThomas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭TimThomas


    Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Patriots reached a one-year agreement with former Raiders pass rusher Trevor Scott.

    Interesting


  • #148
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,493 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    TimThomas wrote: »
    He is a strong safety. If he was a free safety I could see your point as you would want him being more of a ball hawk but strong safeties need to be a mix of both strong and agile.
    Still wouldn't want them that big, hell I don't think you'd want a linebacker that big.


  • #149
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,493 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    TimThomas wrote: »
    Id say Lloyd is a no go now:
    Gonzalez has never been a stretch the field type I don't think. To me anyways Gonzalez seems like a low risk, high reward type of signing and I'd imagine on the vet minimum. TC fodder is how I'd look at that signing.


  • #150
    DBIreland
    Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭DBIreland


    Patriots sign Lloyd according to Adam Schefter...


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  • #151
    DBIreland
    Registered Users Posts: 635 ✭✭✭DBIreland


    Patriots sign Lloyd according to Adam Schefter on Twitter...
    https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/181173336699711488


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