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26-08-2015, 22:44   #9271
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not sure if talking about fags or weed
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26-08-2015, 23:59   #9272
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But it's not about "falling to the knees" for them. For me, it's purely a "Y'know, a smoke would be lovely right about now. Why the hell not?", same as "D'you know, I'd murder a pizza right now..."

Like, why did we all have our first pint? Like, what's the point of alcohol?

There's no point other than it makes us feel good.


I honestly don't understand why it's perfectly fine to have a few drinks every now and then, and everyone will say "Ah yeah, he only has a few social drinks every now and then.", but if someone smokes a few cigarettes they're "addicted and going to die with cancer and are deluding themselves into thinking they're not!"
ya but you eat pizza most days but thats food. you dont just have it for social. like the whole argument is if your not going to smoke everyday why use drink as an excuse to do so. fair enough if you enjoy smoking without a drink thats grand your not backing up anything to want you to smoke only your own desire. alcohol is for a lot of reasons peer pressure would be one in my books
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27-08-2015, 05:47   #9273
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I don't really see the problem with having a cigarette solely in a social setting. As a regular habit they're gonna wreck you. I've been a smoker for five years and already I can feel what they're doing to me.
Having a few in the smoking area of the icon at the weekend isn't going to suddenly give you emphysema at 30 though; The student diet is probably doing way more damage to the bodies of early twenties people than five cigarettes on a Saturday.
On the other hand, social smokers puzzle me.
I spend most of my time out in the smoking area when out. If I didn't smoke though I'd still be out there. That's where the conversation is. I don't see what's social about a ciggarette ;bar the fact that people tend to socialise in the smoking area. People talk there because it's too loud to talk inside. Not because cigarettes are some kind of social lubricant. That's what alcohol is for.
I'm chugging down fags out there because I have to. Because I need to. Because I'll be in a bad mood if I don't. Fags for me are for stress release at work. Getting out for ten minutes while the shift is collapsing around you in the middle of a Dinner rush. I love them for that. I look forward to those cigarettes.
Every other time ,however, it's simply out of habit or boredom or simply just rolling out of reflex. There's no pleasure in it. That's when I hate them.
A few social cigarettes aren't going to kill you but it's very easy to go from a few social ones to getting hooked. I started out as a social smoker; then having a few at work as well before finally just making it the thing I did to keep my hands busy. They make theyre presence known fairly quick when your smoking 20 a day though. Beer will give you a hangover but they at least make you a bit looser among friends. Fags give you this horrible crap in your throat you cough up in the morning. Forget cancer( that's already destiny because of family history) that morning gunk is what makes me want to quit.
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27-08-2015, 09:42   #9274
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I think "social smoking" is just a term used to distinguish between having one or two cigarettes on a night out from being addicted and smoking every day. I think the militant non-smokers (who I absolutely loathe btw, but that's a different discussion) use that as a stick to beat people who enjoy a few cigarettes with in order to push their own agenda.

The point I was making with pizza Jhcx is that pizza is, by and large, pretty terrible for you. But we eat it because it's like an orgasm in a cardboard box topped with pepperoni. If all we wanted was food, we'd have a nice garden salad or something, but we want to enjoy what we're eating every now and then.

I also think it's pretty stupid to suggest that either you enjoy smoking all the time or you don't. If someone walked in now and was like "Want to come out for a smoke?" I'd answer no. Because they taste vile and I get nothing out of them when sober. But when I'm having a few pints, the combination of alcohol and nicotine works for me. It enhances my enjoyment.

Again, it's not about "using alcohol as an excuse" to smoke. It's that the combination of the setting and the various chemicals work in that instance.
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I smoked for the first time the other night. It started out because I was trying to prove that I was able to roll even though the first one I made was a disgrace, but then I ended up smoking them. Normally I wouldn't touch fags and I don't really plan on smoking again but I think it was an experience worth having anyway
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27-08-2015, 20:43   #9276
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I smoked for the first time the other night. It started out because I was trying to prove that I was able to roll even though the first one I made was a disgrace, but then I ended up smoking them. Normally I wouldn't touch fags and I don't really plan on smoking again but I think it was an experience worth having anyway
In 5 years time that little icon you have of lisa simpson will no longer be there but rather replaced by one of these lovely ladies

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27-08-2015, 21:03   #9277
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In 5 years time that little icon you have of lisa simpson will no longer be there but rather replaced by one of these lovely ladies
Haha nah I've tried smoking and decided it isn't for me. But if I get a choice I choose Patty over Selma
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28-08-2015, 08:09   #9278
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In a matter of less than 6years you can rack up a nice sum of 23k spent on then.
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28-08-2015, 10:20   #9279
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In a matter of less than 6years you can rack up a nice sum of 23k spent on then.
That's if you smoke 20 a day. ((23,000 / 6) / 52) = 73 = roughly a tenner a day.

It's a bit of a bullsh*t statistic tbh. You could just as easy say that people will spend 46k over six years if they smoke 40 a day. It's meaningless.

A more realistic scenario (for this discussion) would be someone who smokes 4 cigarettes on a night out once a week. Which is a box every 5 weeks, which is roughly €100 a year, which is €600 over six years. Pretty insignificant considering someone having 3-4 pints on a night out once a week (let's set the price of a pint at €4) would be spending €16 a week, which is €832 a year which is the bones of five grand over the course of 6 years.

So from a purely economical standpoint, people who drink pints are actually wasting a lot more money than people who have a few smokes.



#statisticsproveeverythingandanything
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You know those people you meet on a night out, you don't like them and you they don't like you but you do the awkward chat for a few minutes.

Well I was a bit drunk on Sunday, and apparently whenever someone I didn't like tried to talk to me or any of us, I kept shouting "Avada Kedavra" at them
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29-08-2015, 13:15   #9281
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Well I was a bit drunk on Sunday,
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and apparently [...] I kept shouting "Avada Kedavra" at them
J'accuse!
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J'accuse!
imagine what happens on a bad night then
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