Would you prefer Fine Gael to Form a Government with Sinn Fein or Fianna Fail

niallers1 · 23-02-2011 5:48pm #1

It is a possibility so don't rule it out...but

Given the choice, Would you prefer Fine Gael to go into government with Fianna Fail or Sinn Fein? :eek:

Tipp Man · 23-02-2011 6:16pm

FF without a shadow of doubt

gent9662 · 23-02-2011 6:18pm

I'd prefer the Nazi party to form with Fianna Gail than those other two

[Jackass] · 23-02-2011 6:20pm

Well, neither, obviously, and neither would happen, no matter what, but if i HAD to pick one, it would of course be FF.

They may be incompetent corrupt common criminals, but at least they're not incompetent corrupt murderers.

wolfpawnat · 23-02-2011 6:21pm

dclane wrote: »

I'd prefer the Nazi party to form with Fianna Gail than those other two

Since they are both extreme right fascists, they would get on quite well.

On a serious note, you know that Adams would not be Enda's little b!tch so anything that was too mad would not get through, though as they are extreme opposites you can tell FF would probably have less arguments with them, though you can imagine how much would be given to the banks if FG and FF were in together!

raymon · 23-02-2011 6:21pm

A party that supports alleged murderers and alleged bank robbers vs a party that supports alleged corrupt individuals and thieves

Mmmmmmm let me think

I wouldn't trust either one to be honest

Pete_Cavan · 23-02-2011 6:21pm

If FF had any morals or any belief in their 4 Year Plan, they would do a Tallaght Strategy on it and back FG.

wolfpawnat · 23-02-2011 6:23pm

[Jackass] wrote: »

Well, neither, obviously, and neither would happen, no matter what, but if i HAD to pick one, it would of course be FF.

They may be incompetent and corrupt, but at least they're not incompetent corrupt murderers.

FG - Fascists - Fought with Franco.

FF - anti-treaty - cause civil war in Ireland.

Labour - Official IRA.

Sinn Féin - Provisional IRA.

The Provos and Officials are long dissolved, the Continuity and the Reals are not associated with any of the above parties, so if you don't want "murderers" in the Dáil, then you better be voting Greens and Independents! :rolleyes:

Pure Sound · 23-02-2011 6:25pm

I'd prefer a FG/FF coalition over a FG/Labour coalition never mind the sinn fein option. If FF and FG joined together we may then get proper left and right wing politics in this country which is strongly required instead of this populist centre bull**** trying to please all of the people all of the time without considering what sort of political system works.

Zubeneschamali · 23-02-2011 6:25pm

Fianna Fail.

Hopefully, the Republican bits of FF would split off and join SF in permanent obscurity, the Permanent Government civil service types in FF would run to Labour, the Parish Pumpers can feck off to be local Independents, and the pro-business element would meld with FG.

They could rebrand as the Christian Democrats.

paul71 · 23-02-2011 6:43pm

wolfpawnat wrote: »

FG - Fascists - Fought with Franco.

FF - anti-treaty - cause civil war in Ireland.

Labour - Official IRA.

Sinn Féin - Provisional IRA.

The Provos and Officials are long dissolved, the Continuity and the Reals are not associated with any of the above parties, so if you don't want "murderers" in the Dáil, then you better be voting Greens and Independents! :rolleyes:

All so incestuous isn't, funny that each one can be traced back to the IRB/Sein Fein and the only desendant of the old Irish Parlimentary Party the largest nationalist party at the time is the SDLP.

Pherekydes · 23-02-2011 7:45pm

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Labour - Official IRA.

Why are you spouting these nonsensical lies?

Labour was formed as the political wing of the Irish Trade Union Congress.

Liam Byrne · 23-02-2011 8:01pm

niallers1 wrote: »

It is a possibility so don't rule it out...but

Given the choice, Would you prefer Fine Gael to go into government with Fianna Fail or Sinn Fein? :eek:

Rock & Hard Place springs to mind, since neither respect the views of Irish people or their rights.

If the above were an either-or scenario, I'd vote Labour.

PeterIanStaker · 23-02-2011 8:07pm

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

If FF had any morals

They don't and they never have. Which is why we're in this mess.

Back on topic, neither.
FG and SF, neither of which I'm a fan of, are economically incompatible.

bleg · 23-02-2011 8:21pm

Thankfully fine gael wouldn't form a coalition with either.

wolfpawnat · 23-02-2011 10:11pm

Pherekydes wrote: »

Why are you spouting these nonsensical lies?

Labour was formed as the political wing of the Irish Trade Union Congress.

Dear God read a book!

ITGWU - Irish Citizen's Army

Labour was the political part of the Officials, hence the questions about why if Adam's is being questioned about his supposed militant past if Gilmore isn't getting the same grilling.

When Gilmore was on the late late he was questioned on it too!

I cannot see why people are so ashamed of Ireland's past. We are a country who has had to fight hard to get where we are and not always by peaceful means.

http://irishconflict.webs.com/nationalistparties.htm

ninty9er · 23-02-2011 10:59pm

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

If FF had any morals or any belief in their 4 Year Plan, they would do a Tallaght Strategy on it and back FG.

Micheál Martin said on Matt Cooper 3 weeks ago that he would.

The Brigadier · 23-02-2011 11:01pm

raymon wrote: »

A party that supports alleged murderers and alleged bank robbers vs a party that supports alleged corrupt individuals and thieves

Sorry, which is which?

lugha · 23-02-2011 11:07pm

I wonder would Labour do a deal with FF + A.N. Other(s) if FG could make it without them? :eek:
Let's face it. Most of their senior heads are pushing on, they will probably never serve in government if they don't make it this time. And they do have a bit of form in this regard (1992)

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K-9 · 23-02-2011 11:10pm

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Dear God read a book!

ITGWU - Irish Citizen's Army

Labour was the political part of the Officials, hence the questions about why if Adam's is being questioned about his supposed militant past if Gilmore isn't getting the same grilling.

When Gilmore was on the late late he was questioned on it too!

I cannot see why people are so ashamed of Ireland's past. We are a country who has had to fight hard to get where we are and not always by peaceful means.

http://irishconflict.webs.com/nationalistparties.htm

I'd suggest reading up on The Workers Party and after that Democratic Left.

Pherekydes · 23-02-2011 11:28pm

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Dear God read a book!

ITGWU - Irish Citizen's Army

Labour was the political part of the Officials, hence the questions about why if Adam's is being questioned about his supposed militant past if Gilmore isn't getting the same grilling.

When Gilmore was on the late late he was questioned on it too!

I cannot see why people are so ashamed of Ireland's past. We are a country who has had to fight hard to get where we are and not always by peaceful means.

http://irishconflict.webs.com/nationalistparties.htm

History of ITGWU.

Read up yourself. Just because many union members took part in the 1916 uprising as Irish Citizen Army members, it doesn't follow that "ITGWU - Irish Citizen's Army".

Further, Adams' past is being questioned because people may be concerned that he personally may have been involved in criminality.

Gilmore has no such questions about his past (unless these questions are just to deflect attention).

Adrian009 · 23-02-2011 11:44pm

niallers1 wrote: »

It is a possibility so don't rule it out...but

Given the choice, Would you prefer Fine Gael to go into government with Fianna Fail or Sinn Fein? :eek:

Sinn Fein, but only if they repudiated the IRA and stopped calling us the 26 counties. Ireland, or Eire, are the offical names of our country.

Anyway, we have 29 counties these days.

cc4life · 23-02-2011 11:49pm

Adrian009 wrote: »

Sinn Fein, but only if they repudiated the IRA and stopped calling us the 26 counties. Ireland, or Eire, are the offical names of our country.

Anyway, we have 29 counties these days.

how have we 29?

Pherekydes · 24-02-2011 12:00am

cc4life wrote: »

how have we 29?

South Dublin, Fingal and Dun Laoghaire, plus the other 26.

My name is URL · 24-02-2011 12:04am

I couldn't care less tbh.. both FF and SF are invalid parties atm. The greatest injustice would be if Labour side with them. Wave goodbye to any sort of decent opposition if that happens.

Adrian009 · 24-02-2011 12:05am

cc4life wrote: »

how have we 29?

South Dublin, Fingal and Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown were added a few years back. C'mon, I know you SF lads are mainly based in the north but were only across the border from ye!

hardcore · 24-02-2011 12:09am

I would pick FF as SF-FG coalition would simply collapse during negotations of the coalition policies.

K-9 · 24-02-2011 1:00am

My name is URL wrote: »

I couldn't care less tbh.. both FF and SF are invalid parties atm. The greatest injustice would be if Labour side with them. Wave goodbye to any sort of decent opposition if that happens.

Thing is, it's either a Labour led opposition, or a FG majority or as near it Government! I'd prefer Labour in Government with FG, I think they'd do the country more service that way.

Opposition doesn't mean that much in the Dail unfortunately.

As for the OP, FF but both are unlikely. Funny enough, I'd say SF is more likely. FF would be committing political suicide by going into Government again.

goat2 · 24-02-2011 1:10am

right now, i could not care who run the country, as long as those that get in do a good job,

Tigger · 24-02-2011 1:11am

Pherekydes wrote: »

South Dublin, Fingal and Dun Laoghaire, plus the other 26.

thats 28 lol

Manach · 24-02-2011 1:16am

SF - in that they've actually more experience in Government(NI) than FG.

Would you prefer Fine Gael to Form a Government with Sinn Fein or Fianna Fail

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