€75 Freezeout €2,000 Guaranteed - Friday 12th Blazin Aces Waterford

NUL150 wrote: »

i dont see where friends come in2 it but can i just ask what is de reg and de league normally den ? and de normal rake ? and den i mite see de value...

your total of 4 posts & quality of same speaks for itself

at least have the balls to sign in with your usual boards name rather than registering a new one

bops wrote: »

I won't be there as you may have guessed, but I believe that I am within my rights to attempt to make other boards members aware of the situation.

bops wrote: »

€5 reg and the league deductions capped at €100 all seem fair to me

It's just a pity that you set it up on the same night as Seamus' first monthly game, now we have got to gg's with gt's on the same night in the same city (and of course nothing for the rest of the month )

With all the rubbish posting that was going on during the week with regard to the 2 games in Waterford last night I decided to reserve any comments until after the events.

Bops, strictly speaking you are within your rights to comment on a Tournament you are not playing in but I would question why you would bother unless you had an ulterior motive e.g. that you were playing in the other event that was in direct opposition to the event in Blazin Aces.

You listed out the various deductions and tried to show that the tournament was bad value. Well I would have thought as this stage of your life that you should know that “Value” is not based purely in monetary terms nor is everything in life measured on +EV/-EV.

Just taking a very simplistic view of value your tournament based on an entry (Nett Cost) of €200 with a guaranteed prize fund of €5,000 required 25 players to break even. The tournament in Blazin Aces (using your original figures which was not the case in the end) based on an entry of (Nett Cost) of €60 required 33.3 players so calculate the value there yourself.

Your game (I’m even afraid to mention the name) was a monthly game whereas the game in Aces was a regular weekly game which has been played every Friday since the start of June I think.

For purely commercial decisions it was decided to guarantee a prize fund of €2,000 and that to me was a sensible business decision. So why you felt necessary to “make players aware” is beyond me as they have been playing all summer.

There are a variety of reasons why people would choose to play in Aces rather than your tournament
(a) Affordability, not everyone can afford €220
(b) Convenience, the location may be more convenient
(c) Comfort zone, many players are more comfortable playing in their regular club
(d) Familiarity with other club members
(e) Friendship with regular club members
(f) Loyalty to their regular club
(g) Atmosphere & craic

You speak about value & mention the €7.50 (actual €5.00) fee being taken out for the league. Most of those playing in Aces in the Friday night game will probably be among the 45 players who will qualify to play in the league final & will therefore have an opportunity to win a large prize & more than recover this fee. The approximate €5.00 for fuel it cost you to drive from New Ross & back you will never see again. So where’s the value there.

Waterford had 2 good games last night, 30 players in Aces and 25 in your tournament. (Frightening that almost 22% did not show from the original list :eek: :eek:).

I sincerely hope that for the future that all the nonsense that went on this week, and this was from both sides, will not happen again. Of course there’s going to be rivalry between the two clubs and this could benefit the players but could also see both clubs suffer with neither being successful.

I would like to see both clubs & supporters just getting on with their business & let’s cut out the snide comments & the knocking of the other game.

Lets play poker.

kakak1 wrote: »

With all the rubbish posting that was going on during the week with regard to the 2 games in Waterford last night I decided to reserve any comments until after the events.

Bops, strictly speaking you are within your rights to comment on a Tournament you are not playing in but I would question why you would bother unless you had an ulterior motive e.g. that you were playing in the other event that was in direct opposition to the event in Blazin Aces.

You listed out the various deductions and tried to show that the tournament was bad value. Well I would have thought as this stage of your life that you should know that “Value” is not based purely in monetary terms nor is everything in life measured on +EV/-EV.

Just taking a very simplistic view of value your tournament based on an entry (Nett Cost) of €200 with a guaranteed prize fund of €5,000 required 25 players to break even. The tournament in Blazin Aces (using your original figures which was not the case in the end) based on an entry of (Nett Cost) of €60 required 33.3 players so calculate the value there yourself.

Your game (I’m even afraid to mention the name) was a monthly game whereas the game in Aces was a regular weekly game which has been played every Friday since the start of June I think.

For purely commercial decisions it was decided to guarantee a prize fund of €2,000 and that to me was a sensible business decision. So why you felt necessary to “make players aware” is beyond me as they have been playing all summer.

There are a variety of reasons why people would choose to play in Aces rather than your tournament
(a) Affordability, not everyone can afford €220
(b) Convenience, the location may be more convenient
(c) Comfort zone, many players are more comfortable playing in their regular club
(d) Familiarity with other club members
(e) Friendship with regular club members
(f) Loyalty to their regular club
(g) Atmosphere & craic

You speak about value & mention the €7.50 (actual €5.00) fee being taken out for the league. Most of those playing in Aces in the Friday night game will probably be among the 45 players who will qualify to play in the league final & will therefore have an opportunity to win a large prize & more than recover this fee. The approximate €5.00 for fuel it cost you to drive from New Ross & back you will never see again. So where’s the value there.

Waterford had 2 good games last night, 30 players in Aces and 25 in your tournament. (Frightening that almost 22% did not show from the original list :eek: :eek:).

I sincerely hope that for the future that all the nonsense that went on this week, and this was from both sides, will not happen again. Of course there’s going to be rivalry between the two clubs and this could benefit the players but could also see both clubs suffer with neither being successful.

I would like to see both clubs & supporters just getting on with their business & let’s cut out the snide comments & the knocking of the other game.

Lets play poker.

A nice sensible post Kakak: the poker playing population of the South-East should be delighted to see two well-run clubs offering a choice of games.

bops wrote: »

No you didn't, you were slyly promoting BA's game in the WPC's thread, you deleted it fairly quickly, but Nicky quoted you - remember??

AFAIK there was only rubbish posts at the time made by BA regs on the WPC's thread

We could argue this one forever & still have to agree to disagree.

However on the above lets be perfectly clear about one thing .....At no time was I slyly promoting Aces game in the WPC thread. What I did was in reply to Nicky's post stating the "other game" was starting at 8 o'clock. I had also just read the Aces post for next Sundays game which has a starting time of 7.30pm, which I mistook for Fridays game & I jokingly said "I can play in Aces, get knocked out & have time to play in Olympus".

It was in no way slyly promoting Aces, it was said as a joke, & I can see Nicky didn't take it as a joke from his reply post. I deleted my post then because it was of course wrong & I was also a little pissed off with the reply I got & said "fcuk this" I'm not getting involved.

Bops you quite obviously don't know me at all. I do nothing in life slyly. I call a spade a spade & I always stand up to be counted. If I think you're a cnut ( and I most certainly don't) I'll tell you to your face you're one. What you see is what you get so please don't ever imply I'm doing something on the sly, it's not my form, never was, never will be.

And just to clear one other small little matter, read your WPC thread, the rubbish / snide remarks wasn't one sided.

There's two sides to every story and you know, sometimes you only hear part of even one side of it.

With regard to your XX, .................. only if you shave

THEIRISHMOB wrote: »

I've had a great idea......lol

Why don't we organise a couple of nights of HEADS UP play in both clubs

say 8 or 10 from each club.
Run it Once in each club and the Winning team be crowned the BEST CLUB IN WATERFORD.....!!!

Could even do betting on it....
Would also be good for business in both clubs and improve players.
This is the way all poker related matters should be sorted out.

Team captins.

Blazin Aces- KAKAK1
WPC - THE BOPS

So we got a game?

sure it would be past your bed time