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Red Luas line should be closed

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    #212
    Banjoxed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Banjoxed


    Gosh. There must be a hell of a lot of drama that I'm missing. Travelled on the Luas from Saggart to Heuston and back on a Tuesday evening in late September and was shocked not to experience any dodgyness whatsoever.

    Trouble can happen. I've been on a tram that was stoned at Bluebell once but for Luas to get the brunt of kickings when anti social behaviour happens elsewhere on the transport system as well is disingenuous. The bigger story is that the reasons for anti social behaviour must be tackled but won't be as long as Official Ireland views trouble as something that happens to the Indians on the reservations.

    In the meantime free travel should be targeted where nuisance occurs, the Guards should go wading in when necessary and the transport security should be constituted as a Transport Police with all necessary powers. Those who make a nuisance of themselves must be permanently banned from public transport and relocate the meth clinics.


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    #213
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,615 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    So you prefer the "absolutely no problem on the Red Line" viewpoint?

    Your dealing in absolutes, its not how reality is. Just because someone disagrees with the original poster doesnt mean they said their is absolutely no problem. Thats absurd.


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    #214
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,243 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Stop the snide comments and snideness

    Moderator


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    #215
    Aimee80
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    I totally agree with Darkman2. I went to Dublin this past week and am from the U.S. and due to being 7 hours behind thought it would be nice (10 PM) after dinner to take a trip on the Luas Red Line to see some sights. We had "scumbags" get on and spit at my husband and started saying he was going to "punch him out." Unfortunately, our 8 year old son was with us. We eventually made it to the front of the tram and he got off on George's Dock exit. I know there are areas of the U.S. that are worse, but we paid for this tram and I know they did not. The city needs to look at either increasing security or give ample warnings to tourists of the dangers.


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    #216
    Banjoxed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Banjoxed


    Aimee80 wrote: »
    I totally agree with Darkman2. I went to Dublin this past week and am from the U.S. and due to being 7 hours behind thought it would be nice (10 PM) after dinner to take a trip on the Luas Red Line to see some sights. We had "scumbags" get on and spit at my husband and started saying he was going to "punch him out." Unfortunately, our 8 year old son was with us. We eventually made it to the front of the tram and he got off on George's Dock exit. I know there are areas of the U.S. that are worse, but we paid for this tram and I know they did not. The city needs to look at either increasing security or give ample warnings to tourists of the dangers.

    Policing, yes; but dismantling? Christ no.


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    #217
    Arc_Light
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Arc_Light


    It's been painfully obvious for years that Ireland needs a transit police, and lets do it like the UK instead of an Irish Water type monster, or have it be a specialist branch of the Guards that officers get rotated through.

    Security do not have enough powers, and you never see a beat cop on the Luas because it crosses police district boundaries, so the only answer is transit police with powers of arrest and the power (without a court order) to permanently ban someone from the network.


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    #218
    thickhead
    Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭thickhead


    darkman2 wrote:
    I think I am in a majority that calls for the line to be dismantled. Anti social behaviour and far worse is the norm on this tram line. Dubliners are intimidated and what of tourists? It goes through the city centre - it is embarrassing and disgraceful. Of course it ferries scum (for free) from Tallaght to the Children's court (great planning that eh?) and no matter what security is on it it will not make any difference. The scumbags have the run of it. When the judge let's the feral children out after 10 convictions they simply hop on the tram and go home (not paying of course and intimidating passengers). I think the line should be closed because it is a free ride for scum in and out of our capital city and addicts looking for the clinic behind Clearys. Until the council use their heads I don't think this line should remain open. I think the line is dangerous and represents an appalling image of this city to tourists who are also at risk of harm.

    Piss off


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    #219
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,072 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    And on that note, good bye thread!


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