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Brown Pasta

  • 23-11-2015 2:15pm
    #1
    Andrew Laeddis
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 159 ✭✭


    Yay or Nay?

    All pasta bad?


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  • #2
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,550 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    There's nothing bad about pasta, regardless of colour or creed.

    You should stop picking out elements of a diet and wondering if it's bad and consider what you eat as a whole.

    You could say chicken and broccoli is healthy. It is. But if you eat a boat load of crappy food around the chicken and broccoli, your diet is poor.


  • #3
    ch750536
    Registered Users Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    Disagree with Alf. White pasta typically is processed more than brown pasta. The greater the processing, the less nutrition and greater additive.


  • #4
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,550 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    ch750536 wrote: »
    Disagree with Alf. White pasta typically is processed more than brown pasta. The greater the processing, the less nutrition and greater additive.

    You're making a case for brown pasta before white pasta.

    That doesn't make pasta, or white pasta, inherently bad.


  • #5
    fussyonion
    Registered Users Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    If it's not one thing that's considered bad, it's another.
    Every day there are conflicting reports on whether something is better or worse for you.
    Like Alf said, it depends what your diet is like as a whole.

    I read recently that experts are warning diabetics not to eat brown pasta because it contains more starch BUT only a few months back they were telling everyone to eat brown and that white was bad.

    If you're trying to lose weight, you can still eat pasta but like everything you need to watch portions.


  • #6
    ezra_pound
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    You're making a case for brown pasta before white pasta.

    That doesn't make pasta, or white pasta, inherently bad.

    No but a lot of the white pasta on sale is the pat the baker bread of the pasta world i.e. it's total junk sugar magic.


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  • #7
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,550 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    ezra_pound wrote: »
    No but a lot of the white pasta on sale is the pat the baker bread of the pasta world i.e. it's total junk sugar magic.

    So you can't eat it as part of a healthy diet?


  • #8
    JPNelsforearm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭JPNelsforearm


    No fiber either in white pasta


  • #9
    ezra_pound
    Registered Users Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭ezra_pound


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    So you can't eat it as part of a healthy diet?

    It's all relative.

    Ideally no. The same way that wham bars and healthy diet don't really go together.

    Wham bars sliced pan and white pasta are not that nutritionally different.

    I eat a bit of white pasta and the occasional bit of sliced pan but I also eat take away and my diet is OK but not exactly healthy.


  • #10
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,550 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    ezra_pound wrote: »
    I eat a bit of white pasta and the occasional bit of sliced pan but I also eat take away and my diet is OK but not exactly healthy.

    To be fair, we're talking about pasta. Not pasta plus bread plus takeaways.

    People just think pasta can't be part of a healthy diet because carbs.


  • #11
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,550 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    JPNelsforearm wrote: »
    No fiber either in white pasta

    It's not a massive deal if one food item you might eat a couple of times a week doesn't have fibre in it.


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  • #12
    JPNelsforearm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭JPNelsforearm


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    It's not a massive deal if one food item you might eat a couple of times a week doesn't have fibre in it.

    eh, depends what the rest of your fiber intake for the week is like. You also lose oils and fatty acids. all good for your digestive health and preventing bowel cancer. I eat the odd bit of fresh egg/white pasta, but It would be an odd monthly random buy, or for a specific dish, rather then a couple of times a week. Its not like you can ever really have too much fiber in the average modern diet tbf.
    Why would he eat it a couple of times a week, brown pasta is better, stick to it, buckwheat pasta would be my recommendation, cooks and tastes the best.


  • #13
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,550 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    JPNelsforearm wrote: »
    eh, depends what the rest of your fiber intake for the week is like. You also lose oils and fatty acids. all good for your digestive health and preventing bowel cancer. I eat the odd bit of fresh egg/white pasta, but It would be an odd monthly random buy, or for a specific dish, rather then a couple of times a week. Its not like you can ever really have too much fiber in the average modern diet tbf.
    Why would he eat it a couple of times a week, brown pasta is better, stick to it, buckwheat pasta would be my recommendation, cooks and tastes the best.

    The bit in bold is my point. You can't look at one item of food in isolation and say it is good or bad. You look at the diet as a whole and see what can be improved?

    Are there different types of pasta that have different levels of nutrients and some would be better than others? Yes.

    Doesn't make pasta bad though.


  • #14
    JPNelsforearm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭JPNelsforearm


    I agree, personally I'd just avoid it, but in the absence of knowledge of his diet as a whole you are correct, a few times a week eaten with say heaps of kale or spinach, it shouldnt be a problem


  • #15
    quaalude
    Registered Users Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭quaalude


    ezra_pound wrote: »
    No but a lot of the white pasta on sale is the pat the baker bread of the pasta world i.e. it's total junk sugar magic.

    Is it though?
    I always buy Tesco Value lasagne sheets - the ingredients are the same as more expensive dried pasta: 100% durum wheat semolina. I'm not sure I've even seen dried pasta made with any other ingredients.


  • #16
    Andrew Laeddis
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 159 ✭✭Andrew Laeddis


    Cheers guys

    Might just pass on it completely as I sometimes feel horribly bloated


  • #17
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,001 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    ch750536 wrote: »
    Disagree with Alf. White pasta typically is processed more than brown pasta. The greater the processing, the less nutrition and greater additive.
    Processed more doesn't always mean more additives.
    And while brown is slightly less processed, the difference is very little.
    ezra_pound wrote: »
    No but a lot of the white pasta on sale is the pat the baker bread of the pasta world i.e. it's total junk sugar magic.
    It that's actually true, then we should completely avoid brown pasta too. Think about it, everything in white pasta is present in brown pasta too. If white is truly junk, then 90% of brown pasta is the same junk. Leave 5% of fibre, makes it marginally better but the other 95% is surely a much more important.
    JPNelsforearm wrote: »
    Why would he eat it a couple of times a week, brown pasta is better, stick to it, buckwheat pasta would be my recommendation, cooks and tastes the best.
    Brown is better, no arguments there. It has a more fibre. If you are going to eat pasta, sure go for brown.
    But the difference is absolutely tiny, the overwhelm majority of their make-up is identical. Which makes the way one is presented as a superfood, and other as junk food food really ridiculous.


  • #18
    ch750536
    Registered Users Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    Mellor wrote: »
    ...Which makes the way one is presented as a superfood, and other as junk food food really ridiculous.

    I don't think anyone is saying that. Nutritionally it's a simple decision. Why would you choose white pasta over brown? 100% of the time I would choose brown. Same price. Cooks the same. Is better nutritionally. There is no need for me to buy white pasta.
    I'm not saying one is amazing and one isn't, just that there is no need to buy one.


  • #19
    Mellor
    Registered Users Posts: 39,001 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    ch750536 wrote: »
    I don't think anyone is saying that. Nutritionally it's a simple decision. Why would you choose white pasta over brown? 100% of the time I would choose brown. Same price. Cooks the same. Is better nutritionally. There is no need for me to buy white pasta.
    I'm not saying one is amazing and one isn't, just that there is no need to buy one.
    I wasn't aiming that part at you but rather the post that refered to white pasta as junk, and also the way they are presented generally by many.


  • #20
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,264 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    White pasta is cheaper in any of the supermarkets in my experience. I generally go brown, but I think the main issue/ bad rep for any pasta is over portion size to be honest. It's pretty easy to go supersize without weighing - or that was my issue anyway!


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