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  • #3182
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    If only they would let their standalone Eir Sport satellite customers who are forking out ?25 pm for the privilege (if they can't or won't take Eir Broadband) use the app. We've to rely on the Setanta Go website which doesn't work on mobile devices.


  • #3183
    Hyblaeus
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Hyblaeus


    Hopefully that happens especially when you pay those kind of prices, but knowing eir it is probably going to be awhile before they do anything on that.
    They have updated the website to reflect the Chromecast support eir.ie/sport/chromecast/ but on it states that Chromecast support is only with the green eir sport app and not with the app for mobile customers, so they're still showing preference to eir broadband customers.


  • #3184
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    TV sports market twitter(via post on digital spy) says BT sport have won exclusive rights to eprc cup from 2018.


  • #3185
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    There are some unconfirmed reports to that effect about since Thursday. Nothing official from the EPCR yet.


  • #3186
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    icdg wrote: »
    There are some unconfirmed reports to that effect about since Thursday. Nothing official from the EPCR yet.

    Having all the rugby on one provider would be huge for that company. You do wonder what hit BT's finances are taking to get all these sports exclusive to their channels.

    I am with Vodafone at the moment but I'd be very tempted to switch to eir if all the rugby games could be chromecast.

    Or is there any way to just get the BT channels on a freesat system?


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  • #3187
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Yes - if you pay ?25 pm for them and use a Sky STB and viewing card.

    Unless you have a particularly good deal on your broadband (and you may have) it's probably more economical to go with Eir broadband.


  • #3188
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    icdg wrote: »
    Yes - if you pay ?25 pm for them and use a Sky STB and viewing card.

    Unless you have a particularly good deal on your broadband (and you may have) it's probably more economical to go with Eir broadband.

    Does it have to be a sky box? I have a combi box with a card slot in it?

    A box would be handier as you could pause and rewind/record.

    I pay €40 p/m for fibre broadband with Vodafone. It is the best in the market and have had no issues with it.

    Eir is €5 dearer.

    So sticking with Vodafone and using a box/card would put me out for only €20. I would be happy to pay that extra to see all the rugby games.


  • #3189
    Cassidy Fat Pilgrim
    Posts: 0 ✭ Cassidy Fat Pilgrim


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Does it have to be a sky box? I have a combi box with a card slot in it?

    A box would be handier as you could pause and rewind/record.

    I pay €40 p/m for fibre broadband with Vodafone. It is the best in the market and have had no issues with it.

    Eir is €5 dearer.

    So sticking with Vodafone and using a box/card would put me out for only €20. I would be happy to pay that extra to see all the rugby games.

    Yes, you would need a Sky box to keep the card active. Standalone BB with Eir is €50pm but you get the Eir/BT sport pack thrown in for free. If you have an online Eir account you can then register an Irish Sky card and view these channels at no extra cost. You don't need an active Sky subscription to do this either. Also you have the HD versions of these channels. If all the European rugby goes on to BT only it could be a good deal for a rugby fan.


  • #3190
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Cassidy Fat Pilgrim wrote: »
    Yes, you would need a Sky box to keep the card active. Standalone BB with Eir is €50pm but you get the Eir/BT sport pack thrown in for free. If you have an online Eir account you can then register an Irish Sky card and view these channels at no extra cost. You don't need an active Sky subscription to do this either. Also you have the HD versions of these channels. If all the European rugby goes on to BT only it could be a good deal for a rugby fan.

    Ya it could be a great deal. Just €50 for the broadband with those channels carrying all the rugby would be a great deal especially in HD.

    The tricky bit is sorting a sky box. It seems a bit of an antiquated system to access the channels. I wonder will future hybrid boxes allow access?


  • #3191
    Cassidy Fat Pilgrim
    Posts: 0 ✭ Cassidy Fat Pilgrim


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Ya it could be a great deal. Just €50 for the broadband with those channels carrying all the rugby would be a great deal especially in HD.

    The tricky bit is sorting a sky box. It seems a bit of an antiquated system to access the channels. I wonder will future hybrid boxes allow access?

    Unfortunately viewing the channels on Eir's own website, the quality of the streams isn't that great, so being able use my old Sky box and card was handy. Having them in HD (only eirsport 1 doesn't have a HD version on satellite) as well is a great bonus.


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  • #3192
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    The problem is that Sky won't allow use of a Sky viewing card on any device other than a Sky digibox. Even though you don't deal with Sky for Eir Sport subscriptions Eir still need to deal with Sky for the subscriber management purposes (because it is Sky's system).


  • #3193
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    icdg wrote: »
    The problem is that Sky won't allow use of a Sky viewing card on any device other than a Sky digibox. Even though you don't deal with Sky for Eir Sport subscriptions Eir still need to deal with Sky for the subscriber management purposes (because it is Sky's system).

    But is bt sport not encrypted on the freesat system? So why the need for the sky involvement? Do they own the epg rights or what?


  • #3194
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    But is bt sport not encrypted on the freesat system? So why the need for the sky involvement? Do they own the epg rights or what?
    Sky are in control of the NDS/VideoGuard encryption and the EPG slots.


  • #3195
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    icdg wrote: »
    The problem is that Sky won't allow use of a Sky viewing card on any device other than a Sky digibox. Even though you don't deal with Sky for Eir Sport subscriptions Eir still need to deal with Sky for the subscriber management purposes (because it is Sky's system).

    With the more recent changes to the Sky 'protection' system, the use of non-Sky STBs to receive the Setanta/eir sports channels is no longer possible.

    Up to late last year it was possible to receive the channels on a non-Sky STB.

    Whether or not the Sky terms of use applied to a non-Sky customer using a card issued by Setanta/eir in now a moot point.
    Setanta issued such cards under the Sound & Vision scheme, so the Sky T&Cs at that time could not be imposed on those recipients --- not unless Setanta wanted to break the S&V conditions under which they received funding.

    In any case it is not now possible to use the card in such a fashion.

    That in turn raises the question whether eir are correctly complying with the requirements of the S&V section of the Act. Something for another thread.


  • #3196
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    With fibre providers like eir and vodafone can you pause and rewind tv?

    I got a flier in the door from vodafone but their packages are too expensive.

    With the channels on freesat you don't want to be paying extra for something you already have.

    I would love to see a hybrid combi box that would allow you to stream the BT channels, netflix and these various other services.

    Unfortunately companies like eir are buying up the BT package and then trying to flog it at a higher price with other channels that people don't want bundled in.


  • #3197
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    With fibre providers like eir and vodafone can you pause and rewind tv?

    I got a flier in the door from vodafone but their packages are too expensive.

    With the channels on freesat you don't want to be paying extra for something you already have.

    I would love to see a hybrid combi box that would allow you to stream the BT channels, netflix and these various other services.


    There does not seem much likelihood of that considering there is not even a Kodi plugin for eir sports .... one which would demand the credentials of the eir customer.

    Best you can do is to build your own system with the capabilities you require.


    Unfortunately companies like eir are buying up the BT package and then trying to flog it at a higher price with other channels that people don't want bundled in.


  • #3198
    Cassidy Fat Pilgrim
    Posts: 0 ✭ Cassidy Fat Pilgrim


    Well it's official, BT have exclusive rights to European Cup Rugby from the 2018/19 season onwards for 4 seasons. I'd expect rugby fans to be ditching Sky in their droves after this.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40493439


  • #3199
    kooga
    Registered Users Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭kooga


    Cassidy Fat Pilgrim wrote: »
    Well it's official, BT have exclusive rights to European Cup Rugby from the 2018/19 season onwards for 4 seasons. I'd expect rugby fans to be ditching Sky in their droves after this.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40493439

    sky still have super rugby plus England internationals plus nations rugby.


  • #3200
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It's a massive blow alright, but perhaps an expected one in the context of the big changes afoot at Sky Sports, details of which should be announced next week. With rugby union being now an "other" sport for Sky I can see them being less likely to chase other rights too, though I understand the SANZAAR rights are tied up for a good few years. Watch what happens with the Pro 12 (or whatever it evolves into if mooted changes come to pass) when its rights comes up during next season. I now expect Sky to drop that, though it may not necessarily go to BT either.


  • #3201
    Badabing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭Badabing


    Might be a opportunity for TV3 to pick up a FTA match every week. I presume ITV and Ch5 in England will bid for that pick aswell.


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  • #3202
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,499 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    The same source that correctly reported this deal a few weeks back thinks ITV will do a deal for the U.K. FTA rights. The Irish rights could go to any of the broadcasters, with TG4 perhaps having a slight (but only a slight) advantage thanks to an existing relationship with EPCR.


  • #3203
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    icdg wrote: »
    The same source that correctly reported this deal a few weeks back thinks ITV will do a deal for the U.K. FTA rights. The Irish rights could go to any of the broadcasters, with TG4 perhaps having a slight (but only a slight) advantage thanks to an existing relationship with EPCR.

    RTÉ will want some rugby after losing the 6 nations, interesting to see if TV3 want to continue to boost its sports coverage.


  • #3204
    Badabing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭Badabing


    Elmo wrote:
    RTÉ will want some rugby after losing the 6 nations, interesting to see if TV3 want to continue to boost its sports coverage.


    Might depend on weather they are successful in getting the football 2020 rights etc..., they might just decide to go for full radio rights.


  • #3205
    Smith614
    Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭Smith614


    Is it worth changing from sky to eir tv with free bt sports and pay for sky sports. full package including broadband and multi room for €108.
    ????????


  • #3206
    lertsnim
    Registered Users Posts: 9,715 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    Smith614 wrote: »
    Is it worth changing from sky to eir tv with free bt sports and pay for sky sports. full package including broadband and multi room for €108.
    ????????

    That depends on what other channels you watch.


  • #3207
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    I would suggest just going with BT - if you're just a soccer fan, you're getting the major European leagues with them, and you're effectively paying for added cricket and rugby league with Sky.


  • #3208
    mike2084
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭mike2084


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    I would suggest just going with BT - if you're just a soccer fan, you're getting the major European leagues with them, and you're effectively paying for added cricket and rugby league with Sky.

    I'd miss the darts if I got rid of it though lol


  • #3209
    Schwanz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 898 ✭✭✭Schwanz


    Surely Virgin now have to try go back to the table with BT having so much premium rights on the Eir pack.


  • #3210
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Did I read recently that if you have eir fibre broadband you can chromecast Eir Sports/BT Sports?
    Are the feeds in HD?


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  • #3211
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Tigerandahalf wrote: »
    Did I read recently that if you have eir fibre broadband you can chromecast Eir Sports/BT Sports?
    Are the feeds in HD?

    https://www.eir.ie/sport/

    Doubt it's HD


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