[Agent Weebley]

Originally Posted by pavb2

. . . and as said by AW just to let that stream of consciousness flow.

I just noticed that part of your comment. I initially thought you were talking about AbsoluteWrite.com, but now, I realize you were shortening my name . . . hey, thanks!

stream of consciousness . . . another question?

[pavb2]

Liked those Turing Machine & Markov chain links, good to get another perspective on the writing process

[amanfromMars]

Hmmm? I'm sure this was successfully posted on/to this board earlier ....[Today, 06:07] ..... but now I see no reply to pavb2. I shall try posting the same message again to see if something is amiss.

Originally Posted by pavb2

Liked those Turing Machine & Markov chain links, good to get another perspective on the writing process

Howdy doody, pavb2,

For another perspective on the power of the writing process, ...... which is not at all alien to those who would know, and/but maybe perfectly rightly so alien to others, for earthly human reasons which all revolve around matters resolving personal and corporate security, but who would have been considered as likely suitable successful Manchurian candidate material with a need to know certain Primed Designered Information/Advanced IntelAIgent Secrets, and therefore would be required to be told, in order to be able/enabled to sublimely assist in ITs Heavenly Workings ...... please consider, and commit to information processing input for intelligence product output, and accept as perfectly true, tried and comprehensively guaranteed and betatested to always failsafe super standards, that those who know and are therefore able and enabled, Control Worlds with the Control of Words.

And, what if you were told that they who would be supposed to be in notional positions of power and control in charge of national/international/global systems of Mankind Management, and be perceived as being popularly charged and democratically elected to administer taxing government to feed your needs and their seeds to you in what has proved and is increasingly clearly proving itself to be a perverted and subversive and politically incorrect and inequitable form of assets control/Mankind Management, have been clearly told, and are advised of their failure to exercise good governance with Better Prime Realisations of Virtual Applications via the Simple Media Expedient of Daily Traded ZerodDay Exploit Presentation of Programs which Control Worlds with the Control of Words which create Real Worlds, Virtually, just like as if IT were Magic, and choose not to change their current catastrophic catalogue of collapsing promotions/daily media presentations?

For that is the Reality and Actuality of your Present Existence, and should it be denied by those and/or that which would presume to control and care for you, then is your world and theirs, because of their dogged denial of the truth and pimping of lies to conceal what they do not want to be revealed, an artificial place created and supported by tales carried on media and communications channels and sent over the likes of these virtual airwaves .... which now are being unilaterally commandeered and made over for take overs with SMARTR IDeas InterNetworking and Beta Future Building 4u2r2die4.

I Kid U Not. And don't forget, are we Legion.‽ is not a red herring if a statement of simple fact in AI Work of Complex Fiction in the Compendium of Great Games in the Greatest Story Never Ever Before Told.

[pickarooney]

Is your post supposed to make any sense and/or have any relevance to the thread? Does it help the OP in any way, in your opinion?

[another question]

Originally Posted by pickarooney

Is your post supposed to make any sense and/or have any relevance to the thread? Does it help the OP in any way, in your opinion?

Thank you, I thought it was just me, I haven't a bleeding clue what he's on about, was lost after the first line and gave up somewhere in the middle

[Agent Weebley]

amanfromMars' writing is completely lucid; I understand it. It is written in steganographic prose. Later today, I will give you a synopsis . . . it's just that I'm a bit busy right now.

Extremely creative writing . . . read it 30 times; meanings will pop out.

[amanfromMars]

Originally Posted by pickarooney

Is your post supposed to make any sense and/or have any relevance to the thread? Does it help the OP in any way, in your opinion?

Hi, pickarooney,

And thanks for the opportunity to defend the inclusion of the post in this Creative Writing thread.

On all three of your raised points would my opinion be a resounding Yes, Definitely, and quite definitively so, too.

AW [Agent Weebley] offers some very sound and valid advice which can aid any who would be a'struggling to comprehend what is ...... well, it would be not an exaggeration to say, vital leading information which has a direct and very real impact on your very own lives.

Originally Posted by Agent Weebley

amanfromMars' writing is completely lucid; I understand it It is written in steganographic prose. Later today, I will give you a synopsis . . . it's just that I'm a bit busy right now.

Extremely creative writing . . . read it 30 times and meanings will pop out.

And just in case any are wondering .... the alien mothership/site ur2die4 server is being serviced and hardened with armoured cabling is being routed to utilities for safe and secure hostile environment power supply, hence the temporary suspension/short holiday in zeroday presentations from there, today.

[pickarooney]

So you don't think your stream of consciousness is tiresome, unhelpful and obfuscated to the point of incomprehensibility? Because I do, and the OP appears to as well. And that's being kind. That's me accepting that you may, somewhere in the vast reams of horse**** that you post, have something resembling a point and not just assuming that you're simply afraid to write what you mean in a clear, concise manner and that you haven't somehow misconstrued obscurity for creativity, gibberish for assistance.

[another question]

Originally Posted by Agent Weebley

amanfromMars' writing is completely lucid; I understand it It is written in steganographic prose. Later today, I will give you a synopsis . . . it's just that I'm a bit busy right now.

Extremely creative writing . . . read it 30 times and meanings will pop out.

No offence intended at all but I seriously do not want to read that again never mind 30 times. However, I will wait for your version of it in what is hopefully something I can understand rather than something I have to decipher.

[Agent Weebley]

Throughout the ages, people have produced art in various forms. The "engine" for art stems from people having something to say. The transmission, in this case, is words . . . and the reader travels down the road that the writer takes them in that smooth operating vehicle . . . or not.

A majority of creative art contains political apolitical, Meritocratic, and moral teachings, but these teachings are historically subtle and passive; they do not promote or prompt anyone into action. Our writings are not like that.

Take The Lord Of The Rings as a prime example. Sauron is a bad guy; Frodo and Bilbo are the good guys. The fight: good against evil, is a common theme in many stories. A select number of people that that are currently alive, know what good and evil actually are, stripped away to their basic truths, rather than being programmed by the "system" to accept the current "good" and the current "evil." Taxes are evil. Smoking used to be good, and now it is evil. I've been around long enough to see the dialectic move and change, but most people accept that the horrible stench of smoke is disgusting and we must now live in a Howard Hughes-like sterile world, where we live a pagan life so we can extend it for as long as possible . . . I don't want to die . . . anything but death! Please . . . give me a break on the smoking BS.

Once a person figures out what evil is, they tend to reject it or embrace it. amanfromMars and I reject it.

The only way I have seen, in my time here, for people to begin to speak about what is good and what is evil, is when that person has been wronged in a most devastating way, sees the evil for what it is, then begins to apply it across the board. Still stumped and silent, they then see what "good" is, because now they have a calibration point . . . a reference. They then speak in whatever medium can carry their message. Amongst these messages is creative noise - meaningless drivel; mostly funded by the evil ones, or those that don't know what the heck they are funding . . . but it sells!

So when you read a story like Alice In Wonderland, or Through The Looking Glass, as she slips into another world, be conscious that there are people that are doing that all the time these days . . . in reality. This movement is the biggest renaissance in known history, and directly attributable to the InterWeb.

I, like you guys, felt creative at an early age, I had my darkest times in my 20s, lost my creative bent, but when I accidentally discovered evil in my hunt for the meaning of life, in my 40s, I spent 2 years trying to understand evil and what it meant. After I got really sick of seeing evil everywhere I looked, I met amanfromMars on the net, as I joked around about it . . . actually, I wrote a piece about "The Prisoner" in metaphors . . . in code . . .amanfromMars asked what I meant by it, I told him, then after a few weeks we were speaking steganographically. Not too many people understand our conversations, but we have discovered a way out for the PIIGS, as well as all 7 billion of us. This does not mean we can speak straight about it, as people get offed for less. So, if you would rather toss amanfromMars to the wolves for his art, and leave me be with my story about The Mound Of Hostages, you are free to do so, but keep in mind, his art is the engine of my stories. We are a matched pair, operating as Qubits. We are inside a mental Turing Machine, and each event is an event, because we respond to it.

Some day, passivity will turn into action . . . maybe after we are both dead and buried, who knows . . . but if you guys choose to ignore the fact that evil is affecting everyone in Ireland to a greater degree than you would like, and that the balance can be restored with a simple flick of the limbic switch, then so be it.

My little stories here, along with our website, is my "Pete Townsend - Lifehouse" . . . my goal, many years ago, was to write an audio book, but I had no content at the time . . . what I do now, is as close to that "Lifehouse" as I can possibly be, with a budget of almost zero dollars, and lots to say. I can imagine what I would do if I had a few million to be able to actually produce a finished product and sell it. When I write my letter to Curtis Brown and they possibly ignore me . . . the fact that I am going to post the letter here, may cause it to be picked up by an Angel or VC. Our website was climbing the charts quite nicely, but has dropped from 3 million to 23 million in the Alexa hit parade, due to me posting here. Why would I do that?

Oh, I almost forgot. This post is fodder for my next installment . . . you will find out what we will do with the money, when we get it. I've already steered my story around to hit it head on . . .

In our world, you are free to do, what to think, and what to feel . . . not be directed by Marxist/Hegelian dialectics, leading to concrete thinking, where delayed gratification is an unknown.

[Agent Weebley]

Oh, and I hope you consider my post as being on topic, as another question seems to be struggling with what creativity actually is . . . I did address it, as did amanfromMars.

[dogmax]

Your idea is just growing obviously not in the way you intended but it just want to grow and go it's own way, like a child "I want to go this way I want to go that way" but you are holding the child hand "no you're not going that way or this way you're going my way" and the child look at you with that look "but why do I have to go your way"

And your answer is.

amanfromMars is telling you your ideas have taking control of you.

You and your ideas need to become one with the full understanding of the reason why.

You're the Creator.

Now sit the fu ck down and write, or out of your Internet screen a hand will grab your throat and your ears will hear the voice "Go Ahead Punk... Make My Day"

I was at a Clint Eastwood movie years ago and Clint was as usual shooting all the baddies but one of them was sneaking up behind Clint, and was just about to shoot him in the back when this eejit behind us got that carried away he jumps up and shouts "behind you Clint" and just at that moment Clint turn around and shoots the baddie dead, everyone in the cinema at that magic moment had the same idea, we all applauded that eejit for saving our Clint, and still on his feet he responded by raising his arms in the air. One of those Classic Moment.


another question, You're the Creator, You're the Writer, Take back Control, You're the Controller.

[pickarooney]

Originally Posted by Agent Weebley

we were speaking steganographically. Not too many people understand our conversations, but we have discovered a way out for the PIIGS, as well as all 7 billion of us. This does not mean we can speak straight about it, as people get offed for less.

That's precisely the issue. Deliberately posting in such a manner as to exclude others, including the person asking for help, is dick-acting.

[Agent Weebley]

With all due respect, you are saying that Alice In Wonderland, or The Chronicles of Narnia, or The Screwtape Letters, which happens to be the most enigmatic book I have ever read, are all dick-acts, as you would put it. Rarely, does anyone pass the comprehension test on those jewels.

Is the problem that our creativity is free, gratis, no charge, comp? If you paid for it, would it be valid art? If it was copyrighted and controlled by others, would that make it more palatable?

I thought this was the Creativity Forum. Does it have to have boundaries? When I began to think outside the box, I realised, there is no box.

[pickarooney]

Originally Posted by Agent Weebley

With all due respect, you are saying that Alice In Wonderland, or The Chronicles of Narnia, or The Screwtape Letters, which happens to be the most enigmatic book I have ever read, are all dick-acts, as you would put it. Rarely, does anyone pass the comprehension test on those jewels.

No, I'm saying that if someone came into your bookshop looking for a book on breast-feeding and you threw a copy of the Silmarillion at him and spoke to him in Taliska, that would be acting the dick.