[Conway635]

Originally Posted by dublinman1990

Yes, the bus was roaring. I do get roaring buses sometimes on some routes.

Can I ask what any of this has to do with a thread on Network Direct?

If the above poster wishes to discuss his belief in "bad egg" drivers and "roaring buses" I'd imagine a new thread would be in order, at least this would allow me to read opinions on the network redesign without having to wade through this stuff.

C635

[patrickbrophy18]

Originally Posted by Conway635

Can I ask what any of this has to do with a thread on Network Direct?

If the above poster wishes to discuss his belief in "bad egg" drivers and "roaring buses" I'd imagine a new thread would be in order, at least this would allow me to read opinions on the network redesign without having to wade through this stuff.

C635

Too right! The last 10 or so pages seem to have been dominated with technical or trivial details about buses, RTPI and driver schedules. Each time I get a notification, I'm expecting some update from the Network Direct project, not some trivial, irrelevant or insignificant information.

[Cookie_Monster]

Originally Posted by patrickbrophy18

Too right! The last 10 or so pages seem to have been dominated with technical or trivial details about buses, RTPI and driver schedules. Each time I get a notification, I'm expecting some update from the Network Direct project, not some trivial, irrelevant or insignificant information.

true enough but that said ND seems to have completely stalled with little happening these days anyway

[dfx-]

Originally Posted by Conway635

Can I ask what any of this has to do with a thread on Network Direct?

If the above poster wishes to discuss his belief in "bad egg" drivers and "roaring buses" I'd imagine a new thread would be in order, at least this would allow me to read opinions on the network redesign without having to wade through this stuff.

C635

Originally Posted by patrickbrophy18

Too right! The last 10 or so pages seem to have been dominated with technical or trivial details about buses, RTPI and driver schedules. Each time I get a notification, I'm expecting some update from the Network Direct project, not some trivial, irrelevant or insignificant information.

Well I'd argue that a whole lot of things with Dublin Bus has everything to do with Network Direct in some form. Like A2000's posts on the ridiculousness of the 40.

The 40 brought in by Network Direct. Or the familiarity of drivers with routes chopped and changed by Network Direct. Or the GTs and retirement of RVs enabled by route or service chops by Network Direct. Rosters. Punctuality. Holidays. Maintenance. Customers. Timetables. Subsidies. New orders. It's such a blister on the surface that you'd have a shorter list of things that hasn't to do with Network Direct.

[Bazzer2]

Originally Posted by lxflyer

Phase 1 is long finished - that was the implementation of the changes on the Stillorgan, Blanchardstown and Lucan corridors.

All that is left to be implemented as a result of the network review are the changes to:

Howth Road/Malahide, Swords/North County Dublin, and some orbital/outer city local suburban routes.

The Lucan corridor is long finished? What happened to the re-routing of the 66 by Parson Street and the extension of the 67 to Moyglare?

[donspeekinglesh]

Dublin Bus said they can't afford to extend the routes.

[Ben D Bus]

So is the change to the 79 off the agenda now or what?

[Conway635]

Originally Posted by Ben D Bus

So is the change to the 79 off the agenda now or what?

That should still be on the agenda, as it will merge two routes and give an overall saving in vehicles/staff.

What is delaying it is an issue around the safety of the proposed terminal - a pull-in is needed.

C635

[Joshycat]

Originally Posted by donspeekinglesh

Dublin Bus said they can't afford to extend the routes.

Does this mean route 29 to Baldoyle is cancelled

[end of the road]

Originally Posted by Conway635

That should still be on the agenda, as it will merge two routes and give an overall saving in vehicles/staff.

and will become another unrelyable cross city route. fantastic. the longer the implementation is delayed the better as far as i'm concerned.

[Bazzer2]

Originally Posted by donspeekinglesh

Dublin Bus said they can't afford to extend the routes.

Where have they said this?

[donspeekinglesh]

Originally Posted by Joshycat

Does this mean route 29 to Baldoyle is cancelled

I just mean that was the reason for not extending the 67 route. No idea about other routes.

Actually looks like the changes to the 66 will happen.

[lxflyer]

What DB have said is that due to a combination of reduced demand and lack of funding, they are not implementing new routes such as the 166 and 175 (ref their FB/twitter some months back).

You can extend that to any changes that require additional buses - that does not mean that changes such as the 66 and 67 extensions will not happen as they ought not to require additional buses (the original changes left sufficient running time for the extensions). To be fair these are minor changes in the overall context of the corridor.

Similarly the Howth Road changes ought to be a net saving in vehicles - why it hasn't happened I don't know.

The 79/27b merger is on hold pending the construction of a bus terminus on Oscsr Traynor Road

[KD345]

Originally Posted by Joshycat

Does this mean route 29 to Baldoyle is cancelled

The 29 extension is still very much happening, it's just taking a bit longer than expected.

[Carawaystick]

I think the bus drivers are being unnnecessarily harsh on the no.4 passenger, who is maybe being unreasonable in their expectations also.

I think the vast majority of passengers who see a normal Dublin Bus ( not green, not red, not beige, Door at the front etc) would expect the bus to work and any issues in performance due to the driver.

Now interested users and drivers know that busses are unreliable and liable to malfunction/breakages. However if the bus breaks down, without cutting out the passenger is not going to know without the Driver telling the customers. I'm fairly sure DB management are sure as shure not gonna tell customers why. And leave the implication Drivers are to blame.
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