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Aurongroove · 24-01-2012, 20:12

Sad that it was such a disaster. there were even aspect of the 'old' FFXIV I liked.
It seems when it comes to fixing a piece of ****, they couldn't tell the difference between the things people were complaining about because it obviously sucked arse biscuits. and the things people were complaining about because it was new and unusual.

then again I was probably the only person in the history of the world that didn't mind the fatigue/physical level business, I just wanted the game not to be so laggy and have such pathetic excuses for menus and cursors.

swirlser · 26-01-2012, 02:50

Watched some of those clips, altho somewhat interesting to someone who has at least played it, they must be awful boring for someone who doesnt know anything about the game. Also matching up the up-tempo music and some of the incredibly mundane parts was very odd!

I must say Ive let slip even checking in from time to time to see what SE are doing now, even that has become annoying. There is some amount of messing going on. While some of it may be necessary, they do seem to be tripping over themselves at times too. With the deletion of parts of the game and items and marks etc, just seems best to forget about it all and if I cba in future to come back and see whats going on with it so be it.

Honestly, I think they should have gone at it with a sledge hammer, instead of this softly softly tweaking this and that and adjusting and re adjusting.... you do that when you have something worth while tweaking! The game was/is a mess, dont worry upsetting the balance and order and harmony because it doesnt exists!

"He needs more blankets AND he needs less blankets!"
(Dunno why this came to mind!)

Think Ill just wait and let the critics tell me if 2.0 is actually worth a look at all... Merry 2012 FF fans, see you in 2013, maybe

MarkJD · 19-07-2012, 12:12

Figured i would update this thread too for those that are following this one and not the other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkJD

After playing FFXI since 2005-2010 I had high hopes for FFXIV. I got the CE at launch but after it failed terribly i didnt touch it until Feb 2012.

Iv been playing it regularly since and it is quite enjoyable. It has been under Yoshi P for well over a year now and him and the development team have made a lot of good changes bearing in mind they are still greatly held back from the terrible server structure and engine the game was originally built on. They have been providing huge patches and changes to the current game while at the same time building and designing a brand new game for the relaunch.

Dont get me wrong there is still plenty that warrants this game as non playable but if you can get passed that in the interim it is fun to play right now and plenty to do until the new version launches.

FFX|V 2.0 as they put it will be out hopefully December this year and while agree this game is pretty much dead and buried there will be a big draw back from players once it launches. Everything is getting redesigned! New servers, New Client, New World, New system and a lot of people are holding out. There was a little bit of noise and new info at E3 and Japan Expo this year but in typical SE fashion they are being tight lipped. A flood of new info, screens and videos is set to land sometime in August. Following that servers will be shut down for 1 Month for Alpha / Beta of the new client and then release. It will then come out on the PS3 soon after. Yoshi P even made an effort and brought the development team into Blizzard to sit down with with the WoW Developers and directors so that they could learn from them and take aspects of what they have done right. Make no mistakes SE is putting everything into this relaunch as they see it this is their chance to save face and the brand.

Some pics below of the new game / engine and concept art. These were taken at 15-20% optimization but they still look amazing! I have no doubt that this will be the most beautiful MMO game out there. It just needs the system and basics behind that other MMOs have done well to make it good and playable to the masses.

Full list can be seen here - http://www.ffandmore.com/?p=2623

Also multiple interviews from E3 & Japan Expo of those following the game eg - http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/2012/06...cks-and-rocks/

Also as it stands now, there will be an "entry" subscription plan that lets you create up to 8 characters, but only one per server, and this plan will cost $10.99. Legacy will cost $9.99 (those that have currently paid for 3 months subscription or more), and the standard plan will cost $12.99.

Is there anyone currently playing or plan to give it a shot when 2.0 comes about? I think alot of people like the fact that it will be on the PS3 as well.

AstroDMG · 27-07-2012, 16:45

Well the rebirth of FFXIV trailer was released yesterday, it got me excited for this game again.

MarkJD · 03-08-2012, 11:14

Yea most definitely! Also there will be some new gameplay footage released at Gamescon on the 16th of August. This will be from the brand new engine and client. Cant wait!

MarkJD · 08-08-2012, 15:28

The producer made a second trailer. The first one he felt was designed more as a movie style trailer where as this one he wnated to give it a more Final Fantasy feel. Has some of the same scenes from the first one but the voice over is a little bit better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYMrF...layer_embedded

Still no gameplay but that is going to happen at Gamescon on the 16th of August.

Quote:

I know you’re all jonesin’ for some in-game footage, though, and I promise it’s on the way. We’re going to be introducing some of the new content and features, doing walkthroughs on some maps, and showing the overhauled combat and Battle Regimen systems.

DeSelby83 · 08-08-2012, 16:49

Is this going free to play or a full price game with a subscription or has the price plan even been announced yet?

MarkJD · 09-08-2012, 15:02

This wont be free to play. The price plan will be $12.99 for 1 character or $14.99 for 8 characters. There is a special legacy price plan for older players who have paid for at least 90 days consecutive membership of $9.99 but its too late to qualify for that.

You can pickup a copy of it right now if you want to try it in its current state for about €10.00 (Worthwhile)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Final-Fantas...4519825&sr=8-1

With this you will be given access to the version 2.0 Client for download when it released in December this year for free. You will also get 1 months free trial now and then when the new version launches after Beta you will get another 1 months free trial of the new version of the game.

The PS3 price has been revealed as $39.00 so much cheaper than normal PS3 games. If they release a new PC version of the game i would imagine it will be in or around the same price.

MarkJD · 20-08-2012, 10:27

Iv compiled all the latest information from new gameplay footage of the new game, new interviews and new screenshots and concept art images.

Teaser Website:

http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/

Videos

FFXIV: ARR trailer -

Gamescom 2012 HD 2.0 Gameplay -

Latest Information/Interviews (Gamescom 2012):

JPGames 8/17/2012
4Gamer 8/16/2012

Unfortunately SE are terrible at releasing HQ screenshots so your left with this compressed grainy finish. Also bear in mind this is not being run on a PC with maxed out settings and it is also pre alpha. The gameplay footage speaks for itself.

Screenshots

Concept Art:

ArthurG · 20-08-2012, 10:51

New interface looks great - reminds me of a suggested interface mod for FFXI that was doing the rounds a few years ago. I'll see if I can find a ss.

MarkJD · 20-08-2012, 11:04

I haven't really followed the numbered FF series after 8 to be perfectly honest. Well not including 11 which took up 90% of my gaming time from 2005-2010

But from what im hearing the guy who created and worked on the UI from FF12 was brought in specifically for this. Apparently people loved that UI so thats the reason why. It does look crisp and clean. I love the fact that it is drag and drop and it is fully interactive using the mouse. XI was terrible for this. Also in the gameplay trailer you can see that you can freely move around the whole UI and lock it in place etc.

This above to the jumping and alot of other minor things really show how much SE have changed their opinion on this. You know yourself from XI how protective they were of their game and allowing people to customize and change it up. To now with them allowing all of this to also supporting community made mods and add-ons for the future.

Just hope people give this game a good shot and that SE and the development team listen this time around to Alpha / Beta feedback and they dont rush release it. You dont ever see MMOs be completely rebuilt for a second chance.

MarkJD · 20-08-2012, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArthurG

New interface looks great - reminds me of a suggested interface mod for FFXI that was doing the rounds a few years ago. I'll see if I can find a ss.

What did you think of the gameplay? Have you played FFXIV?

ArthurG · 20-08-2012, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkJD

What did you think of the gameplay? Have you played FFXIV?

Gameplay of FFXIV? I tried it at the last Beta just before launch, and thought it was excrutiatingly bad. Held off for buying the thing to see what people thought after launch, and well, as you can imagine I didn't bother buying it.

I was very dissapointed, as I'd played FFXI for 4 years or so, and had a blast, although having progressed to WoW (post LoTRO), I could never go back to FFXI again, the thoughts of spending hours waiting for an NM to pop, or getting wiped in Dynamis and waiting 15 mins for everyone to res makes me slightly ill. I know its changed a lot in the interim, but I just couldn't do it.

Anyway, I'm waiting with baited breath for GW2, but FF has a special palce in my heart, and I'm sure i'll give this a blast when its re-released.

MarkJD · 20-08-2012, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArthurG

Gameplay of FFXIV? I tried it at the last Beta just before launch, and thought it was excrutiatingly bad. Held off for buying the thing to see what people thought after launch, and well, as you can imagine I didn't bother buying it.

I was very dissapointed, as I'd played FFXI for 4 years or so, and had a blast, although having progressed to WoW (post LoTRO), I could never go back to FFXI again, the thoughts of spending hours waiting for an NM to pop, or getting wiped in Dynamis and waiting 15 mins for everyone to res makes me slightly ill. I know its changed a lot in the interim, but I just couldn't do it.

Anyway, I'm waiting with baited breath for GW2, but FF has a special palce in my heart, and I'm sure i'll give this a blast when its re-released.

I meant more the gameplay footage from Gamescon 2012. I put up a video above not sure if you seen it?

I played in the GW2 Beta and while it has a lot to offer and seems to have a great development team behind it i just didnt like the gameplay. Dont like all the different weapons each class can use and the changing them up constantly for timers. Felt it was very DPS orientated for whoever can press the buttons the fastest? Maybe i just have the wrong impression though.

ArthurG · 20-08-2012, 12:09

The footage looks great - the UI is a massive (and much needed) improvement. Graphics are fab looking, and combat looks nice and fast. That Dragonfire Dive looks amazing. Looks really smooth too, interesting to see what hardware its running on (not sure if its mentioned in there, I may have missed it), but its very smooth.

I didn't watch the whole thing as I'm in work, will check it out at home tonight.

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24-01-2012, 20:12	#91
Aurongroove Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 775 Adverts \| Friends	Sad that it was such a disaster. there were even aspect of the 'old' FFXIV I liked. It seems when it comes to fixing a piece of ****, they couldn't tell the difference between the things people were complaining about because it obviously sucked arse biscuits. and the things people were complaining about because it was new and unusual. then again I was probably the only person in the history of the world that didn't mind the fatigue/physical level business, I just wanted the game not to be so laggy and have such pathetic excuses for menus and cursors.

26-01-2012, 02:50	#92
swirlser Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Dublin Posts: 269 Adverts \| Friends	Watched some of those clips, altho somewhat interesting to someone who has at least played it, they must be awful boring for someone who doesnt know anything about the game. Also matching up the up-tempo music and some of the incredibly mundane parts was very odd! I must say Ive let slip even checking in from time to time to see what SE are doing now, even that has become annoying. There is some amount of messing going on. While some of it may be necessary, they do seem to be tripping over themselves at times too. With the deletion of parts of the game and items and marks etc, just seems best to forget about it all and if I cba in future to come back and see whats going on with it so be it. Honestly, I think they should have gone at it with a sledge hammer, instead of this softly softly tweaking this and that and adjusting and re adjusting.... you do that when you have something worth while tweaking! The game was/is a mess, dont worry upsetting the balance and order and harmony because it doesnt exists! "He needs more blankets AND he needs less blankets!" (Dunno why this came to mind!) Think Ill just wait and let the critics tell me if 2.0 is actually worth a look at all... Merry 2012 FF fans, see you in 2013, maybe

27-07-2012, 16:45	#94
AstroDMG Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2 Adverts \| Friends	Well the rebirth of FFXIV trailer was released yesterday, it got me excited for this game again.

03-08-2012, 11:14	#95
MarkJD Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 274 Adverts \| Friends	Yea most definitely! Also there will be some new gameplay footage released at Gamescon on the 16th of August. This will be from the brand new engine and client. Cant wait!

08-08-2012, 16:49	#97
DeSelby83 Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 477 Adverts \| Friends	Is this going free to play or a full price game with a subscription or has the price plan even been announced yet?

09-08-2012, 15:02	#98
MarkJD Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 274 Adverts \| Friends	This wont be free to play. The price plan will be $12.99 for 1 character or $14.99 for 8 characters. There is a special legacy price plan for older players who have paid for at least 90 days consecutive membership of $9.99 but its too late to qualify for that. You can pickup a copy of it right now if you want to try it in its current state for about €10.00 (Worthwhile) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Final-Fantas...4519825&sr=8-1 With this you will be given access to the version 2.0 Client for download when it released in December this year for free. You will also get 1 months free trial now and then when the new version launches after Beta you will get another 1 months free trial of the new version of the game. The PS3 price has been revealed as $39.00 so much cheaper than normal PS3 games. If they release a new PC version of the game i would imagine it will be in or around the same price.

20-08-2012, 10:27	#99
MarkJD Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 274 Adverts \| Friends	Iv compiled all the latest information from new gameplay footage of the new game, new interviews and new screenshots and concept art images. Teaser Website: http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/ Videos FFXIV: ARR trailer - Gamescom 2012 HD 2.0 Gameplay - Latest Information/Interviews (Gamescom 2012): JPGames 8/17/2012 4Gamer 8/16/2012 Unfortunately SE are terrible at releasing HQ screenshots so your left with this compressed grainy finish. Also bear in mind this is not being run on a PC with maxed out settings and it is also pre alpha. The gameplay footage speaks for itself. Screenshots Concept Art:

20-08-2012, 10:51	#100
ArthurG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 622 Adverts \| Friends	New interface looks great - reminds me of a suggested interface mod for FFXI that was doing the rounds a few years ago. I'll see if I can find a ss.

20-08-2012, 11:04	#101
MarkJD Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 274 Adverts \| Friends	I haven't really followed the numbered FF series after 8 to be perfectly honest. Well not including 11 which took up 90% of my gaming time from 2005-2010 But from what im hearing the guy who created and worked on the UI from FF12 was brought in specifically for this. Apparently people loved that UI so thats the reason why. It does look crisp and clean. I love the fact that it is drag and drop and it is fully interactive using the mouse. XI was terrible for this. Also in the gameplay trailer you can see that you can freely move around the whole UI and lock it in place etc. This above to the jumping and alot of other minor things really show how much SE have changed their opinion on this. You know yourself from XI how protective they were of their game and allowing people to customize and change it up. To now with them allowing all of this to also supporting community made mods and add-ons for the future. Just hope people give this game a good shot and that SE and the development team listen this time around to Alpha / Beta feedback and they dont rush release it. You dont ever see MMOs be completely rebuilt for a second chance.

20-08-2012, 12:09	#105
ArthurG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 622 Adverts \| Friends	The footage looks great - the UI is a massive (and much needed) improvement. Graphics are fab looking, and combat looks nice and fast. That Dragonfire Dive looks amazing. Looks really smooth too, interesting to see what hardware its running on (not sure if its mentioned in there, I may have missed it), but its very smooth. I didn't watch the whole thing as I'm in work, will check it out at home tonight.