[Formation]

The next time ye are playing cash in the jackpot will ye pay attention to how much is being raked.

I am convinced they are overraking (basically robbing the players) each and every hour of every night.

Advertised rake is e4 per person per half hour so they should only be raking e72 per hour per full 9 handed table but it seems to be at least e200 per hour and often enough tops e300 per hour.

[C.S.M.F]

i think you need to go to spec savers old chap the blue chips are a euro not 25euro im a regular player at the jackpot and in my mind they are the best and cheapest rake in town and the best team so like i said take your beer goggles off you Nonce and pay attention

[curehead]

I always assumed rake was like a percentage of the pot and only pots over a certain amount and pots with more than two players involved
how the hell do they take €4 off everyone every half hour ?

[Formation]

Its a guideline I believe, one that they consistantly go over due to a high turnover of drunk students who never count the rake.

There is no regulation for these places which are registered as private members clubs.

They also report a loss to the revenue each year which is bull for anyone that sees the money they take in from all activities but its a cash business...

[sandin]

Originally Posted by Formation

The next time ye are playing cash in the jackpot will ye pay attention to how much is being raked.

I am convinced they are overraking (basically robbing the players) each and every hour of every night.

Advertised rake is e4 per person per half hour so they should only be raking e72 per hour per full 9 handed table but it seems to be at least e200 per hour and often enough tops e300 per hour.

Originally Posted by Formation

Its a guideline I believe, one that they consistantly go over due to a high turnover of drunk students who never count the rake.

There is no regulation for these places which are registered as private members clubs.

They also report a loss to the revenue each year which is bull for anyone that sees the money they take in from all activities but its a cash business...

Obviously you are someone who had a bad day of losses there, but making unfounded accusations as above against a reputable club can see you lose a hell of a lot more.

Publish defamatory and libelous accusation in a public forum against a company and you can have yourself sued and lose a hell of a lot of money.

If Jackpot or anyone with an interest in the jackpot sees this, my guess is they will take immediate legal action to redeem their excellent name.

[Formation]

Someone from the jackpot would already have seen this post and they are not going to libel because I expressed an opinion that they are raking more than the advertised amount.

Going from your post I would say there is a fair chance you are affiliated to the "excellent" jackpot.

Regardless I would speculate that they are quite a profitable business and an auditor would find interesting results.

[mdwexford]

Originally Posted by sandin

Obviously you are someone who had a bad day of losses there, but making unfounded accusations as above against a reputable club can see you lose a hell of a lot more.

Publish defamatory and libelous accusation in a public forum against a company and you can have yourself sued and lose a hell of a lot of money.

If Jackpot or anyone with an interest in the jackpot sees this, my guess is they will take immediate legal action to redeem their excellent name.

Lol yeah im sure The Jackpot are hiring solicitors as we speak.

[thejackpot]

Dear Formation et all

Firstly let me introduce myself. My name is Paul O' Reilly and I am the Managing Director of the The Jackpot Card Club. Please excuse my tardiness in replying, I have been on annual leave.

While I appreciate comments and suggestions made by members regarding the club and its operations and we continually endeavour to maintain and improve our standards, I am afraid your statement is totally unfounded.

The staff who deal in the club whilst being trained in how to deal, they are equally as skilled in ensuring that the rake is never 'over-raked' at any time. Pots being raked at up to €200-€300 per hour would result in there being no club at all. We have never tried to 'hoodwink' our member like this and treat them with the respect they deserve and the courtesy of not treating them as if they do not know what is being raked. Whether a person is sober or 'had a few' we have a responsibility at the club to ensure that each person is treated fairly and with courtesy and respect.

While this may be happening at other locations I don't know, I can ensure you that the advertised rake is the rake that is being taken per hour. More often than not the rake per hour is less than the advertised amount as we can not rake certain pots if there is not enough cash in the pot. We continually strive to ensure that the rake at The Jackpot Card Club is as competitive if not better than other clubs in Dublin. Our successful Cash League is testament that we operate fairly and honestly, unless every single player that plays is unable to calculate the rake in the club which I doubt.

Secondly I do not take too kindly to the tone of your 'cash business' and 'auditor' statements but I really have nothing much to say on that. You are entitled to your opinion, even as incorrect as it is. Also no posters here are affiliated with the club and maybe said persons actually do enjoy the club.

I hope I have answered your points appropriately.

Kind regards


Paul O' Reilly

[Formation]

Paul,

I have regularly seen pots raked for E20+.

Assuming 25 hands per hour and an advertised rake of E72/hour for a full table how can you justify that level of rake on one hand?

Why have you not introduced a cap on the rake per hand like a lot of other cardrooms?

[thejackpot]

Formation

Please PM me your name. I would like to check the rake sheets on some dates you were in please.

Regards

Paul

[Formation]

Thats a bullsh1t answer Paul, there are at least 5 hands per hour where the rake is hitting E20 every night especially between midnight and 3am. You don't need to check rakesheets. You need to cap the rake.

[thejackpot]

Dear Sir

It would seem you know my business better than I considering you know the rake every night. I have advised you that the rake is never this high, never has and never will be. I reiterate that I do not take our members for fools and this figure of €20 you have is not the case and is ridiculous.

I am not getting into a argument with you and considering you have stated below that my comments are 'bullsh1t' following my response and also considering I know that the figures are correct and there is no over-raking occuring, I will leave it at that.

Regards

Paul

[Formation]

An easy solution to the problem is to have a E10 cap on the rake. At roughly 25 hands per hour this will easily allow you to reach your target of E72 per hour. Why do you not employ a cap on your rake?

Secondly what would happen if one of your members complained immeadiately after a hand that they were raked E25 in that hand in your standard full ring 1/2 game?

[tipp86]

Lol ignore the idiot imo.

[Formation]

Originally Posted by tipp1986

Lol ignore the idiot imo.

considering your dealing background tipp you may possibly give some insight into how a E10 cap for a club whose advertised aim is to rake E72 an hour is idiotic?