[sham69]

Sorry to hear that KKkitty, I was like that all day Friday.
Had to go to bed.
I felt terrible as I took the day off to spend with the kids and then ended up in bed.
I was grand yesterday and today .
Crappy weather doesn't help.
Hope you feel better soon.

[KKkitty]

Thanks sham. Haven't felt like this in a while.

[sam34]

mikom, thanks for reporting the spam. but for future ref, please dont quote spam posts as that just means mods have more posts to edit/delete

cheers.

[KKkitty]

Originally Posted by sam34

mikom, thanks for reporting the spam. but for future ref, please dont quote spam posts as that just means mods have more posts to edit/delete

cheers.

As the OP thanks for cleaning up the spam.

[mikom]

Originally Posted by sam34

mikom, thanks for reporting the spam. but for future ref, please dont quote spam posts as that just means mods have more posts to edit/delete

cheers.

No bother.
F'ers making money off others suffering.

[KKkitty]

Originally Posted by mikom

No bother.
F'ers making money off others suffering.

Thanks for reporting it mikom. You were very quick off the mark

[sinc]

Originally Posted by username123

kkkitty - I hope your test happens soon. If you suspect candida albicans you can eradicate that from your system by taking a fluconazole tablet, you can get it over the counter in the uk or ni, a 'canestan oral' is the same. I buy a generic version from amazon for 3 pound or so. You would be able to rule out candida with that - thats how I found out I had it, and I get it on and off now.

Originally Posted by KKkitty

You're more than welcome sham. I started this thread to understand ibs myself and so we could all help each other with it. Since it's not a life threatening condition it's almost swept under the carpet in my estimation.

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Sham.....your symptoms of ibs maybe very much related to your nasal drip as in infected sinuses. That gunge going from top to tail can really react with the system.

a colonoscopy is imperative, blood check is ticking all the boxes.

me thinks you should be seeing an ent specialist....you may need serious antibotics or surgery if your sinus cavities are shot.....day job and G/A.

btw the colonscopy is a piece of cake.....you wont feel a thing or know a thing....day before prep yourself well as per the instructions which means an easier inspection. A lot of folk arriving for these jobs not cleaned out fully which means an unsuccessful scope.

besta luck.....

Looking for advice, anything really,
I've been through this for years and its ruining my life,
I've been told, what you have points to IBS, so I haven't even been told I have IBS, just that it is the best idea of what it is.
I've had colonoscopies, endoscopies, biopsies, blood tests, breath tests.
I was previously tested and told I didnt have H pylori bacteria, but now have been told I have ulcers and am taking some tablets for it, I hope it will help, but I dont know, it has been years and no success, and its all very slow in public healthcare,I think this is my life now.
I've kept trying to put on a brave face but, it has gotten me down for a long time, almost since it started , mostly as I realise it is not going away and I have from the start seen people turn away from me. Im only really in contact with 1 or 2 people these days, I cant go anywhere, either from bloating, pain and discomfort which distracts and concerns me. I dont feel able to go anywhere, where I would be confined, like a plane or even the cinema. I feel food affects it and I feel I can eat only when I know how food has been cooked or with what.

It started one day I thought, with terrible pains in my gut, but when I look back on it, there were odd incidents in the year previous of what I thought was indigestion, and prior to that I had some surgery for a muscular injury. I often wondered was that the start of my problem really, going to surgery, but it was unavoidable.
But from that day when I had terrible pain 7 years ago, it has been almost continuous daily. Its made me unable to carry out a job, I was forced to leave another job because of it, people were very unsympathetic, I understand where they are coming from, the symptoms aren't really that nice, plus me having at times to disappear to the toilet, people dont understand. As a guy people expect you can take everything but they dont realise everyone has their limits, I have been told by one doctor to just get on with my life, but my life is on hold. People dont even want to know me, they are unhappy you have something, they are offended if they are affected and if you do try to explain I feel shunned as they really just dont want to know.

I have wondered if I could have had candida albicans in the past, I didnt know there were tablets available for it "flucanazole" , Candida hasnt been suggested by the doctors I see nor a treatment. I dont want to take anything while I am currently taking something anyway, not sure how much or for how long or what potential side effects might be?. I read there is some anti biotic used for eliminating parasites that helps with IBS used in the US but I dont recal what it is right now. I also wonder maybe what I have precipitated by food poisoning, but I just dont know. I also frequently have a sore throat that i have to clear, nasal drip? as mentioned here.
I am going to see if the current tablets work, but I have all but lost hope, there are still some good things left but I am concerned they wont last. I want my old life back, dont think its going to happen.

[username123]

Hiya sinc,
Just wanted to respond to you and say - there is hope!!!

On the candida albicans - its very common. Its basically a yeast overgrowth in the gut where you have lost all of your good bacterias through antibiotics, the pill in women, stress, illness, etc... When this happens the normal yeast that lives in the gut can go bananas and way overgrow and cause a lot of problems with symptoms like heartburn, bloating, cramping, etc.... The flucanozole kills off any yeast in the body (same yeast that causes thrush). Its a one dose tablet, you take it and over the next 48-72 hours it kills the yeasts in the body. In a very serious case like your you would be well advised to then replace the good bacterias in the gut - any health food shop will have live tablets or powders or yoghurts to help you do this. The point on the flucanozole is this - if you get relief from it, you know candida was at least part of the problem.

On the rest of it. Do you take regular exercise? Is there a constant source of stress in your life? Do you keep a clean diet? Have you ever tried an exclusion diet where you cut almost everything out then slowly reintroduce things and in that way discover specific intolerances? Have you kept a diary of your experiences, not just the food you eat but the things that happen to you and things you do in daily life plus notes of symptoms and episodes and tried to see a pattern? Have you been tested for coeliac disease?

You have to be willing to believe and understand that sometimes our own head is the problem - not that there isnt a physical issue going on, but that we overthink it and get too stressed out and we make it worse on ourselves by stressing and tightening the gut and interfering with peristalisis. Its almost as though you have to submit to the knowledge that something is not right and accept that there will be times when you cant do much, but there will also be times when you can.

[dirtyghettokid]

just saw this thread now... read about half the pages.
i've had IBS since beginning of 2005. i went through a very stressful time in my life where i was bullied in my job, i had to quit -- then i had a UTI, a really bad flu, and then a viral bug. my then-boyfriend dumped me at this time too. i noticed IBS symptoms after that, but it took me about two years to figure out the trigger foods. it was an awful time. i am not a big drinker, but i don't drink at all now, since 2006. my triggers ended up being spinach, grapes, raisins, dark chocolate, caffeine, salmon, spicy sausage like chorizo. all stuff i liked! i have tried to eat these things since cutting them out, and i can't do it. they will always give me an attack.
i have the alternating kind. constipation nearly all the time... but if i eat something that triggers it, then i get stabbing pains, followed by diarrhea. the pains go after i go to the loo, but i am left exhausted and feeling pretty crappy for a while afterwards. i end up starving myself because i feel so crap and don't want to eat. takes me a day or two to recover.
i had it more or less under control, but this year, it has got worse. i'm going through a bout of it now.. over the last month say. feel like crap. it doesn't help that i suffer from depression and anxiety. feels like everything i eat causes diarrhea these days. woke up this morning with gurgling gut and wind. have gone to the loo, but i just feel weak and yucky. i know that my anxiety makes it worse. i get all worried when i am sick with it often. makes me think that something else is wrong, when there probably isn't.
i'm thinking of trying to get some hypnotherapy for IBS. i've read really good things about it. my mother in law is a hypnotherapist, but unfortunately, she doesn't know enough about IBS to help, so i'm going to go to someone who is specialised in it. has anyone here gone for hypnotherapy?

[sinc]

Originally Posted by username123

Hiya sinc,
Just wanted to respond to you and say - there is hope!!!

On the candida albicans - its very common. Its basically a yeast overgrowth in the gut where you have lost all of your good bacterias through antibiotics, the pill in women, stress, illness, etc... When this happens the normal yeast that lives in the gut can go bananas and way overgrow and cause a lot of problems with symptoms like heartburn, bloating, cramping, etc.... The flucanozole kills off any yeast in the body (same yeast that causes thrush). Its a one dose tablet, you take it and over the next 48-72 hours it kills the yeasts in the body. In a very serious case like your you would be well advised to then replace the good bacterias in the gut - any health food shop will have live tablets or powders or yoghurts to help you do this. The point on the flucanozole is this - if you get relief from it, you know candida was at least part of the problem.

On the rest of it. Do you take regular exercise? Is there a constant source of stress in your life? Do you keep a clean diet? Have you ever tried an exclusion diet where you cut almost everything out then slowly reintroduce things and in that way discover specific intolerances? Have you kept a diary of your experiences, not just the food you eat but the things that happen to you and things you do in daily life plus notes of symptoms and episodes and tried to see a pattern? Have you been tested for coeliac disease?

You have to be willing to believe and understand that sometimes our own head is the problem - not that there isnt a physical issue going on, but that we overthink it and get too stressed out and we make it worse on ourselves by stressing and tightening the gut and interfering with peristalisis. Its almost as though you have to submit to the knowledge that something is not right and accept that there will be times when you cant do much, but there will also be times when you can.

I have always been reasonably active, I dont participate in regular sports, I usually walk the dog and it helped me lose a little bit of weight, but I was not overweight before, just trimmed down.

Where is the flucanozale available and what is the doseage in mg? would it be in a health shop in the UK or Boots over there?

I used to keep a record but I wasn't great at keeping it going, and it was hard to see how it helped me convey that message to doctors as i didnt feel it was really heard when i brought it up, but more due to me losing faith.

I forgot to say I was tested for coeliac, but I then read long afterwards that its possible to have it and pass the test for some reason. I had blood tests for that I believe. I also had stool samples taken.I was nearly glad when I was told I had a herniated diaphram and then ulcers as I felt I was believed because they could see these things, before that it felt like I wouldnt be believed until something was found


I dont know how it all started but I find food worsens things, I avoid a lot of foods (sweet stuff, drinks) for another medical condition.
I've taken into account, stress could be a trigger but its like a catch 22, bowel problem makes me stressed, I've tried to ignore it, thats why I have effectively excluded myself from social situations as people get so bothered over even little things.
The thing is, when my gut is not giving me a problem (rare) and I can usually tell it will not flare up in those circumstances, then I am delighted, I feel like a huge weight is lifted. Sometimes when it all flares up, it can last for a while before it settles down, days to weeks.

I get an alternating toilet, mostly loose, which can cause a lot of pain and discomfort, its rarer that I get constipated but I have had toilet that is both almost at the same time, if i say that to a doctor I think they will tell me thats not possible but it has happened to my suprise on a few occasions, I dont know what this means or why it happens. I tried to account for any of this by drinking filtered tap water.

I tried an exclusion diet, I excluded a lot, eliminated milk as I thought I might be lactose intolerant but brought back lactose free milk, then ordinary milk as It didnt seem to affect me, I'm thinking of re doing the whole exclusion thing. I cannot eat sweet things, the less processing the better it seems. Basically I try have an unvaried, plain diet.
Porridge for brekkie, I found eliminating lunch helped and have a plain dinner, maybe some herbal tea. Ive gone back to normal tea but Im going to get back through my herbal stuff.
If I fall off the wagon and give up hope for a while I could munch through a packet of biscuits or maltesers or something like that but it ends up make me feel worse.
I hardly drink anymore, beers or larger are out, but its not a bother for me.
Maybe a red wine but its rare.

I could do with a bit of help relaxing but I feel mostly it is my bowel that creates stress for me, not that I am a particularily chilled person, I dont get bothered about a lot of things I used to before. I actually dont care about a lot of things, just my bowel,If that would resolve,Id be happy.
I am glad of some of the doctors I have come across, but others have just taken notes, no advice or nothing. I know its difficult to pin down and compared to medical problems that can be seen/are publicly aware.

I lose hope every now and again as I feel at times Im not making any progress and am nearly resigned to it now. But I keep coming back for more and i wonder should I just give up trying.
I keep my appointments with the hospital, but there are big gaps between them.
I am going to take the tablets I have been put on and see how it goes, after that Im going to try the tablet mentioned above, flucanozale.
I dont know why candida isnt checked.

[sinc]

Originally Posted by dirtyghettokid

just saw this thread now... read about half the pages.
i've had IBS since beginning of 2005. i went through a very stressful time in my life where i was bullied in my job, i had to quit -- then i had a UTI, a really bad flu, and then a viral bug. my then-boyfriend dumped me at this time too. i noticed IBS symptoms after that, but it took me about two years to figure out the trigger foods. it was an awful time. i am not a big drinker, but i don't drink at all now, since 2006. my triggers ended up being spinach, grapes, raisins, dark chocolate, caffeine, salmon, spicy sausage like chorizo. all stuff i liked! i have tried to eat these things since cutting them out, and i can't do it. they will always give me an attack.
i have the alternating kind. constipation nearly all the time... but if i eat something that triggers it, then i get stabbing pains, followed by diarrhea. the pains go after i go to the loo, but i am left exhausted and feeling pretty crappy for a while afterwards. i end up starving myself because i feel so crap and don't want to eat. takes me a day or two to recover.
i had it more or less under control, but this year, it has got worse. i'm going through a bout of it now.. over the last month say. feel like crap. it doesn't help that i suffer from depression and anxiety. feels like everything i eat causes diarrhea these days. woke up this morning with gurgling gut and wind. have gone to the loo, but i just feel weak and yucky. i know that my anxiety makes it worse. i get all worried when i am sick with it often. makes me think that something else is wrong, when there probably isn't.
i'm thinking of trying to get some hypnotherapy for IBS. i've read really good things about it. my mother in law is a hypnotherapist, but unfortunately, she doesn't know enough about IBS to help, so i'm going to go to someone who is specialised in it. has anyone here gone for hypnotherapy?

Its strange, this is very similar timeframe and some events to me.
I have considered hypnotherapy but Im not sure who to go to, Im just not sure how to tell if someone will be good or not, money would be a concern for me to spend if I wasnt certain it might be useful.

[dirtyghettokid]

Originally Posted by sinc

Its strange, this is very similar timeframe and some events to me.
I have considered hypnotherapy but Im not sure who to go to, Im just not sure how to tell if someone will be good or not, money would be a concern for me to spend if I wasnt certain it might be useful.

well i asked for a quotation today, and it came back €75 for consultation and €100 per visit. i'm kind of gutted because i am unemployed and not in receipt of social welfare. i literally have zero income and i can't ask my husband for that kind of money. i know we can't afford that much anyway! i wish there were some other way... all i can say is.. this sucks big time!

[sinc]

Originally Posted by dirtyghettokid

well i asked for a quotation today, and it came back €75 for consultation and €100 per visit. i'm kind of gutted because i am unemployed and not in receipt of social welfare. i literally have zero income and i can't ask my husband for that kind of money. i know we can't afford that much anyway! i wish there were some other way... all i can say is.. this sucks big time!

That would be a lot for me too, Im unemployed also, but because I live with my girlfriend I get nothing from the social welfare either, Im wary of trying it even though I would like to. I just spent €60 on my current medecine that I was prescribed. I'm concerned that it would come to nothing.

[dirtyghettokid]

Originally Posted by sinc

That would be a lot for me too, Im unemployed also, but because I live with my girlfriend I get nothing from the social welfare either, Im wary of trying it even though I would like to. I just spent $60 on my current medecine that I was prescribed. I'm concerned that it would come to nothing.

i know how you feel! it's a lot of money to invest if nothing turns up. i have tennis elbow and i went to blackrock clinic (back in 08) and through loads of different treatments. spent the guts of a grand over the course of 3 months, and it did nothing at all to help... so very wary! but €100 a session is a joke! way to make treatment unattainable for those down on their luck

[sinc]

Originally Posted by username123

Hiya sinc,
Just wanted to respond to you and say - there is hope!!!

On the candida albicans - its very common. Its basically a yeast overgrowth in the gut where you have lost all of your good bacterias through antibiotics, the pill in women, stress, illness, etc... When this happens the normal yeast that lives in the gut can go bananas and way overgrow and cause a lot of problems with symptoms like heartburn, bloating, cramping, etc.... The flucanozole kills off any yeast in the body (same yeast that causes thrush). Its a one dose tablet, you take it and over the next 48-72 hours it kills the yeasts in the body. In a very serious case like your you would be well advised to then replace the good bacterias in the gut - any health food shop will have live tablets or powders or yoghurts to help you do this. The point on the flucanozole is this - if you get relief from it, you know candida was at least part of the problem.

Are you aware of a recommended/suggested amount people take of Flucanozole?, I am thinking of bringing it up with the "team" I see, which means whatever Doctor is available.
Is it called Flucanozole in the UK where it is available over the counter?


After a recent bad bout, I am getting sick and tired of it again and I want to try resolve it by any means. Mostly im tired of being fobbed off and waiting on answers from the hospital I visit, it can be 6 months between visits.