[Monty Burnz]

Originally Posted by EnterNow

Granted, but your still never going to get proof for theories of this type. So why ask for it? All your posts against RTDH seem to be 'proof, proof, proof'. It's the equivalent of 'pics of gtfo' If the theory is correct, there's gonna be no proof. It it's not correct, there's still gonna be no proof. It's all just theory

But what's to stop me coming here and claiming that Ryan Tubridy was genetically engineered from a toad and a light shade? No proof will be forthcoming for that either - is it worth discussing? Is it worth me plaguing the forum with it?

Or should somebody point out that it's ridiculous and makes no sense?

[EnterNow]

Originally Posted by Monty Burnz

But what's to stop me coming here and claiming that Ryan Tubridy was genetically engineered from a toad and a light shade? No proof will be forthcoming for that either - is it worth discussing? Is it worth me plaguing the forum with it?

Or should somebody point out that it's ridiculous and makes no sense?

Oh I agree, but asking you to prove it would still be a futile exercise I suppose thats the nature of the beast really though

[hooradiation]

Originally Posted by EnterNow

Granted, but your still never going to get proof for theories of this type. So why ask for it? All your posts against RTDH seem to be 'proof, proof, proof'. It's the equivalent of 'pics of gtfo' If the theory is correct, there's gonna be no proof. It it's not correct, there's still gonna be no proof. It's all just theory

The purpose, in so far as it could be called that, is that I hold the slimmest of hopes that RTDH will eventually up his game.
Also, that anyone reading is left in no doubt as to just how baseless these claims are.

And that's before we start on your massive logical misstep of assuming a conspiracy theory has no proof by definition, therefore why ever bother engaging anyone.
If there's anything to the theory, it'll stand up to scrutiny - just because the majority are nothing but waffle doesn't mean that all of them are or people should stop questioning them.
The unofficial CT motto is "question everything" after all.

[Joshua J]

Pfft. Sure the foxes have the run of the hen house in here.

[EnterNow]

Originally Posted by hooradiation

The purpose, in so far as it could be called that, is that I hold the slimmest of hopes that RTDH will eventually up his game.
Also, that anyone reading is left in no doubt as to just how baseless these claims are.

Fair enough, so it's more rhetorical than anything else.

And that's before we start on your massive logical misstep of assuming a conspiracy theory has no proof by definition, therefore why ever bother engaging anyone.
If there's anything to the theory, it'll stand up to scrutiny - just because the majority are nothing but waffle doesn't mean that all of them are or people should stop questioning them.
The unofficial CT motto is "question everything" after all.

Well, no. I didn't say no conspiracy theories could be proved. I simply said that those that have proof are no longer theories, & the ones that don't, will always simply be theories. And certainly ones of this type [false flag stuff] there will never be solid proof of.

I do believe conspiracies exist, but asking users for proof proof proof when you know there's none in order to basically belittle them, seems just, odd. If RTDH believes whatever he posts about...fair enough, discuss it, shoot him down, prove him wrong...asking him to 'prove' it just seems lazy.

[hooradiation]

Originally Posted by EnterNow

Well, no. I didn't say no conspiracy theories could be proved. I simply said that those that have proof are no longer theories, & the ones that don't, will always simply be theories. And certainly ones of this type [false flag stuff] there will never be solid proof of.

Well, no not really. For example there is 'proof' of a fashion for some of the more pervasive theories. Things that can be read and debated. It doesn't stop them from still being theories.

Unless you're using the word theory as a synonym for hunch, in which case you're probably right, but I prefer the more rigorous version.

Originally Posted by EnterNow

I do believe conspiracies exist, but asking users for proof proof proof when you know there's none in order to basically belittle them, seems just, odd. If RTDH believes whatever he posts about...fair enough, discuss it, shoot him down, prove him wrong...asking him to 'prove' it just seems lazy.

If you can find anything substantive to discuss in this entire thread then you've sharper eyes than I.
And the fact that I've been reduced to having to repeat the same basic questions over and over speaks more for the lack of the basics on the part of others than for my alleged "belittling".

[EnterNow]

Originally Posted by hooradiation

Well, no not really. For example there is 'proof' of a fashion for some of the more pervasive theories. Things that can be read and debated. It doesn't stop them from still being theories.

Unless you're using the word theory as a synonym for hunch, in which case you're probably right, but I prefer the more rigorous version.

If there is proof, does a conspiracy theory not then become a conspiracy? Mere semantics I know

If you can find anything substantive to discuss in this entire thread then you've sharper eyes than I.
And the fact that I've been reduced to having to repeat the same basic questions over and over speaks more for the lack of the basics on the part of others than for my alleged "belittling".

I dunno, I just don't think your gonna get 'proof' of these types of theories. If it's purely to get RTDH to 'up his game' as you say, then that's between you guys & a different matter entirely

[Run_to_da_hills]

CIA / MI5 / Mossad Al-Qaeda posts online recruitment adverts offering training for suicide bombers to target the US, Israel and France.


(Actual Clip art used)

"Adverts have appeared on several jihadist web forums, offering to recruit and train potential suicide bombers. Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula is offering training for suicide bombers to target the US, Israel and France.

The advertisements ask for volunteers to get in touch via e-mail with details about their own experience and proposed targets, and were posted on a variety of jihadist forums, including Al-Fidaa, Shmoukh al-Islam and Honein".


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...el-France.html

[Run_to_da_hills]

his is exactly what theyre after doing :-

A recent New York Senate bill, introduced by Senator Thomas F. O'Mara, would strive to put a stop to all anonymous commenting.

The bill, S6779, would make any anonymous online post subject to removal if not connected to a verifiable legal name, IP address and home address.

t`s only a few months ago that Iran too was saying about a new intranet, but in order for citizens to use it they would have to sign up for it using their citizen`s I.D.Card, otherwise they wouldnt be allowed to register.

The day is fast approaching when everyone will be e_tagged and controlled by the RFID technology and the internet will be just one of the services`.

In the meantime they`re on a quest to get rid of anonomous posts so that ppl will become accustomed to using their own name on the internet.

The day this happens will be the day that free speech is dead and is probably just one or two major cyber FF's away. .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1699749.html

[hooradiation]

Originally Posted by Run_to_da_hills

his is exactly what theyre after doing :-

A recent New York Senate bill, introduced by Senator Thomas F. O'Mara, would strive to put a stop to all anonymous commenting.

The bill, S6779, would make any anonymous online post subject to removal if not connected to a verifiable legal name, IP address and home address.

Half truth, the proposed bill, which would be limited to New York state, if passed. It's a state law not federal , reads as this

"Provides that a web site administrator shall remove any comments posted upon request unless the poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post" So it's not what you're saying at all, really.

Also, it'd fail any constitutional challenge as there is legal precedence that protects anonymity.
And, just because this isn't stupid enough - it'd be unenforceable anyway, seeing as the limits of the authority of this bill, if passed, is the border of New York state.

Originally Posted by Run_to_da_hills

t`s only a few months ago that Iran too was saying about a new intranet, but in order for citizens to use it they would have to sign up for it using their citizen`s I.D.Card, otherwise they wouldnt be allowed to register.

The day is fast approaching when everyone will be e_tagged and controlled by the RFID technology and the internet will be just one of the services`.

In the meantime they`re on a quest to get rid of anonomous posts so that ppl will become accustomed to using their own name on the internet.

The day this happens will be the day that free speech is dead and is probably just one or two major cyber FF's away. .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1699749.html

Pure fantasy on your part, with an apparent poor understanding of the topic at hand.

[al28283]

Originally Posted by EnterNow

The essence of a good conspiracy theory is having an informed and educated go at joining the dots. Certain dots might be missing, your never going to prove most of this stuff.

Who decides what is informed and educated? There has to be some degree of proof offered.

I could easily put forward the idea that Richard Reid is living safe and well on a nazi moon base. There might be a few missing dots but if I'm not expected to provide any proof then who are you to argue?

[JustinDee]

Originally Posted by Run_to_da_hills

CIA / MI5 / Mossad Al-Qaeda posts online recruitment adverts offering training for suicide bombers to target the US, Israel and France.

Dear, oh dear . . . you're quoting the Daily Mail again.

Incidentally the Mail small ads section was used by KGB agents during the 60s, 70s and 80s to pass messages to each other. Did you know that? Does it make a difference? Nope.