[Potential-Monke]

But that's the thing, there will be a push, there is always a push. And I'm not clutching at straws, a hse report is supposed to be completed for every offence where a child is involved, even if you caught little 17 year old Johnny skulling cans with his mates in a field. Initially, the Garda may not have to complete it, but some "genius" sitting behind a desk will eventually go "hey, shouldn't the guard be completing referrals? It'll look really good for us if they do".

I realky don't think this should be a Garda matter, we're there to prevent, detect and solve crime, not babysit or lecture on bad parenting, that's the job of the HSE. And the back end the HSE can look at is a report from the Garda and more than likey a follow-up meeting = wasted Garda time.

You may think that this is the extreme, but definitely where I am it's stuff like this that they keep inventing that is ruining the front-line service.

[Zambia]

Then your HSE needs to pull its head in.

If a plan has flaws you fix the flaws, not abandon the plan.

[UDP]

Originally Posted by Delancey

I don't think anyone here would suggest smoking in a car with children is not undesirable , however I think using Police to enforce a Government health strategy is a bad joke.
Under 18's are not permitted to use sunbeds - should Gardai enter tanning establishments to check ID's ?

Its using the Gardai to enforce a law - thats what they are there for.

Your analogy is false since tanning establishments would be held responsible for under age users thus the Gardai would be expected to visit a tanning establishment if there were reports that the law was being broken much like the same way that Gardai are involved in catching shops/pubs selling cigarettes or alcohol to minors

I think this law would be a good thing if only to highlight to people that it is wrong and if someone happens to get caught now and again then that might spread the word that it is not acceptable. I don't expect the gardai to be actively seeking those who are breaking the law.

[Potential-Monke]

Originally Posted by Zambia

Then your HSE needs to pull its head in.

If a plan has flaws you fix the flaws, not abandon the plan.

I agree, the HSE does need to pull it's head in, but i still stand by my view that this should not be a Garda matter. It's a health matter.

[fluffer]

I'm very glad "Zambia" is in Australia and I am in China. Firstly so that the PC zealots are not in control in my absence, and secondly if this rule does come into effect, that I was not present for its implementation.

[Zambia]

Originally Posted by fluffer

I'm very glad "Zambia" is in Australia and I am in China. Firstly so that the PC zealots are not in control in my absence, and secondly if this rule does come into effect, that I was not present for its implementation.

Do you want to engage in this behavior ? Other wise it sounds a bit like.

"We will fight for your right to have babys brother"