[jack presley]

Originally Posted by Leslie91

This will work for Netflix too then would it?

As in use a US IP to get netflix's US content?

The Irish content is so poor in comparison.

Yes it does. That's why I got it in the first place. However to get it to work on an appletv, you'll need to jailbreak it but it works fine on a laptop or pc/mac

[Paully D]

So, just to be clear. GamePass in Ireland will have:

• No Redzone
• No coverage of the playoffs
• 2 live Sky games on Sunday evening and night blacked out for a minimum of 6 days

I think they're all the restrictions, is that right?

Overall, what I'd advise people without Sky to do is subscribe to a streaming site for around €40 a year (or even on a single day basis if there's a game on Sky they want to watch and for the playoffs for around €3 a day). Including the price of GamePass it would cost around €200 all in, but it means you'd get GamePass plus the subscription to the streaming site which will include Sky Sports on 24/7, access to ESPN, Setanta etc, 90% of soccer games broadcast at 3pm every week and loads of pay-per-view events such as boxing, UFC etc.

[IRL_McNuggetz]

How many ip addresses can you log in with, with the one account? i.e can you split the cost of the subscription between you and a friend?

[Leslie91]

Originally Posted by IRL_McNuggetz

How many ip addresses can you log in with, with the one account? i.e can you split the cost of the subscription between you and a friend?

More than 1 person cannot be logged into the same account at the same time. But other than that as long as each of you has login and PW you are good to go.

[Leslie91]

Originally Posted by Paully D

So, just to be clear. GamePass in Ireland will have:

• No Redzone
• No coverage of the playoffs
• 2 live Sky games on Sunday evening and night blacked out for a minimum of 6 days

I think they're all the restrictions, is that right?

Overall, what I'd advise people without Sky to do is subscribe to a streaming site for around €40 a year (or even on a single day basis if there's a game on Sky they want to watch and for the playoffs for around €3 a day). Including the price of GamePass it would cost around €200 all in, but it means you'd get GamePass plus the subscription to the streaming site which will include Sky Sports on 24/7, access to ESPN, Setanta etc, 90% of soccer games broadcast at 3pm every week and loads of pay-per-view events such as boxing, UFC etc.

U mean like that flashsportsstreams you mentioned?.

Have you been using these the last 2 years? how come they've not been shut down? I would have thought what they are doing is dodgy no?

[jack presley]

Originally Posted by Leslie91

More than 1 person cannot be logged into the same account at the same time. But other than that as long as each of you has login and PW you are good to go.

So in theory I could watch a game on my iPad and another on my computer?

[adrian522]

Originally Posted by jack presley

So in theory I could watch a game on my iPad and another on my computer?

No, only one login at a time, if you're logged in on your computer and you then login on ipad you will be logged out of the computer straight away.

[fisgon]

Originally Posted by JJ

I think I'll be going for Witopia. They don't have a trial but they do have a 30 day money back offer. I want to watch all the Giants games live or the next day and I don't want to have to subscribe to Sky Sports and Game Pass to be able to do that.

Anyone know if you get a VPN from Witopia is your internet speed reduced in any way? This would be a drawback if you wanted to watch gamepass.

[jack presley]

Originally Posted by fisgon

Anyone know if you get a VPN from Witopia is your internet speed reduced in any way? This would be a drawback if you wanted to watch gamepass.

I used witopa for Netflix to get the American version and never had a problem with speed. That's not to say it won't happen for this though.

[Paully D]

Originally Posted by Leslie91

U mean like that flashsportsstreams you mentioned?.

Have you been using these the last 2 years? how come they've not been shut down? I would have thought what they are doing is dodgy no?

Yep, FlashSportsStreams is the one I use, however, there are others. Oatsey off here has found one he's very happy with and they've said they will show NFL, and others on the soccer forum like LiveOnlineFooty but they don't show Sky Sports all day every day like Flash do.

Yeah I've been using them for the last two seasons. As a Sunderland fan not many of our games are on Sky, but I've only missed 2 games live over the last 2 seasons thanks to Flash. I also watched every week of NFL action on Sky last year on the same site and numerous boxing, golf events etc.

I've got no idea why the haven't been shut down yet to be honest. I think that their main server is based in a country that the powers that be haven't been able to bring a court case against yet and there's been a few court cases brought against pubs showing these games when they're not supposed to be but as of yet the powers that be haven't won a case yet, it's something to do with EU law that I don't know much about.

Of course they could probably be shut down in the morning but they've been fine for the last 2 years at least and at the end of the day for €40 I'll take my chances

[adrian522]

Easy enough to route gamepass through a european proxy if you just want to get around the blackouts, I use Tor+foxyproxy and it will route gamepass through Spain or wherever for those games on sky or the playoffs.

[Masked Man]

Originally Posted by adrian522

Easy enough to route gamepass through a european proxy if you just want to get around the blackouts, I use Tor+foxyproxy and it will route gamepass through Spain or wherever for those games on sky or the playoffs.

You use Tor for video?

[Chucky the tree]

Don't forget that those who are not renewing will need to contact Gamepass support by email or live chat to cancel their auto-renewal.

[adrian522]

Originally Posted by Masked Man

You use Tor for video?

Setup similar to this, though obviously don't use UK proxies like you would for BBC iplayer.

http://hurwi.net/blog/?p=28

[Paully D]

Found this post, might be helpful to some fans of specific teams wondering whether it's worth it to get GamePass or not:

Just to get an idea on the blackouts, these are the number of times teams were shown on Sky during the 6 and 9 pm slots last season, obviously this does not mean it will be the same this year but it does at least give an indicator.

For almost a quarter of the teams (7/32) at least 4 games, a quarter of the season, were subject to blackouts.

NY Giants 8
Philadelphia 5
Chicago 4
Cincinnati 4
Green Bay 4
New England 4
Tampa Bay 4
Atlanta 3
Carolina 3
Minnesota 3
NY Jets 3
Pittsburgh 3
Dallas 2
Denver 2
Detroit 2
New Orleans 2
Oakland 2
Washington 2
Baltimore 1
Buffalo 1
Cowboys 1
Houston 1
Jacksonville 1
San Diego 1
San Francisco 1
Tennessee 1

Surprised to see the Ravens only had 1 game blacked out due to Sky (the season opening V Steelers), I had a feeling I watched more than one of our games on Sky last year, but I must have just miscalculated that as I watched the rest of them on streams. I honestly can't recall the Giants being shown as many as 8 times either. My memory is going downhill I do think there should be a maximum amount of times Sky can show a team live though, imagine being a Giants fan last season, paying your €200 (or whatever it was last year) for GamePass, and then not having live access to half the games!

This season I would expect Denver (Peyton Manning interest), Washington (RGIII interest), and Jets (Tebow) to be shown more with teams such as Bengals, Buccs and Vikings dropping down a bit.

I still haven't pulled the trigger and bought it myself (trying to keep money for other things for a few weeks) but I'm 90% sure I'll get it.