[Leah14]

Hi, was wondering does anyone know of a good wheelchair accessable restaurant in the area around St. Stephens Green to Kildare Street? Had a look on access Dublin but there are too many listed. Would need to be decent size as there are 2 wheelchair users in our lunch party.

[derekjones]

xdz

[scullivor]

fire restaurant is wheelchair accesible, as is tgis

[marwelie]

I was at a gig in The Workmans Club on Saturday. Just to let people know that if they intend ever going there is no viewing platform, so get there early to get a decent view. And their Wheelchair Toilet is in Bonos Gaff next door.

[SerialComplaint]

Originally Posted by marwelie

And their Wheelchair Toilet is in Bonos Gaff next door.

That's outrageous. Do you have to leave one venue, go out on the street and then into the Clarence to go to the loo?

[marwelie]

Yep, Bono's Gaff is very nice though, haven't been in there since about 1990. It was a dump then, it isn't anymore

[SerialComplaint]

Originally Posted by marwelie

Yep, Bono's Gaff is very nice though, haven't been in there since about 1990. It was a dump then, it isn't anymore

On the assumption that there are standard toilets in the club, but no accessible toilets, this is almost certainly a breach of the Part M building regs. The Part M TGD from 2000 state that where public toilets are provided, an accessible toilet is mandatory. Would you fancy making a complaint to Dublin City Council on this?

It is probably also in breach of equality legislation - remember the Searson's case; http://www.independent.ie/national-n...ase-95542.html

[marwelie]

Able-bodied toilets are in the basement, it may be a listed building, did Bono not have problems trying expand the Clarence because of this?

[SerialComplaint]

Originally Posted by marwelie

Able-bodied toilets are in the basement, it may be a listed building, did Bono not have problems trying expand the Clarence because of this?

There is no general exemption to Part M accessibility for listed buildings. If they can do the works to turn it into a modern club, with all that goes with that, then they can provide a single accessible bathroom.

[Stillorganboy]

Temple Bar is a horrible place for wheelchairs. If you have time enter your accessible places on www.rollsquare.com. Most pubs are accessible, some exceptions are pubs upstairs, or basements. Sinnott in Stephens green area, is example. Most important is to enjoy yourself and don't blame your disability. Your a customer and they need your business,

[Mental Mickey]

Originally Posted by Stillorganboy

Temple Bar is a horrible place for wheelchairs. If you have time enter your accessible places on www.rollsquare.com. Most pubs are accessible, some exceptions are pubs upstairs, or basements. Sinnott in Stephens green area, is example. Most important is to enjoy yourself and don't blame your disability. Your a customer and they need your business,

Fcukin kip.

[Qualitymark]

Part of the problem is not just "wheelchair accessible" but toilets with proper hoists.

In Scotland there are sixty-something Changing Places toilets http://www.changing-places.org/insta...nt/hoists.aspx and in Northern Ireland there are eight. Not one in the Republic, as far as I know.

This means that anyone with cerebral palsy, for instance, can't go on an outing and rely on being able to use the toilet.

It's kind of crazy that these hoists aren't standard in new builds, and retro-fitted where possible in all public spaces. Apparently the National Gallery is installing one, but it's not ready yet.

[SerialComplaint]

Originally Posted by Qualitymark

Part of the problem is not just "wheelchair accessible" but toilets with proper hoists.

In Scotland there are sixty-something Changing Places toilets http://www.changing-places.org/insta...nt/hoists.aspx and in Northern Ireland there are eight. Not one in the Republic, as far as I know.

This means that anyone with cerebral palsy, for instance, can't go on an outing and rely on being able to use the toilet.

It's kind of crazy that these hoists aren't standard in new builds, and retro-fitted where possible in all public spaces. Apparently the National Gallery is installing one, but it's not ready yet.

I hadn't heard about the National Gallery. That's a positive step forward, but you're right, lots more Changing Places are needed. I guess they are never going to be standard, but for major new developments, they would be very popular for those who need them. If we ever get new developments like the Dundrum Town Centre, Convention Centre, Grand Canal Theatre etc, they should certainly have this kind of facility.

I heard one parent of a young adult with an intellectual disability explaining how she has to bring a shower curtain with her, to put down on the floor of the disabled loo when changing her son. Not nice...

[marwelie]

Does anybody have any experience of the Merchant Arch Pub in Dublin. Supposed to be going to a gig there tomorrow night but it doesnt look very wheelchair friendly to me.

[marwelie]

I was right about the Merchant Arch, avoid like the plague......steps, steps and then more steps