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07-07-2012, 04:00   #1
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Mistake behind the counter from bookie ???.. Advice needed ?

Hey I put on a bet in a bookie shop earlier on today on a football match.. I put on €750 on the bet at odds 1/7.. Gave €750 behind the counter no problems.. The bet lost.. But when I stared at the slip I noticed at the bottom where it has the date and then stake amount underneath the slip that the stake was for just €50.00 .. Any advice on this ?.. Am I not entitled to the €700 back that was not included in the stake ???.. I'd lose the €50 I'd understand that.. The man behind the counter must've accidentally just put on the €50 and left out the figure 7... I'm guessing if the bet won that I wouldve only been entitled to winnings of 1/7 at €50 ?? And would've had the €700 refunded anyways so I wouldn't got back roughly about €757 ???... If it was like 2 or 3 euro it wouldn't have been a big deal but it's €700 so..  I never look at my slips until after the result is in so I didn't notice it until I got home.. Any advice please ??
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07-07-2012, 05:48   #2
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No, your not as far as im aware. It was mistake by bookie, but once you said 750 then that is amount its for.

Was just mistake and it may be one that they might have checked at end of work as it would have made difference to their books at end.

The Conspiracy theorists will say he was confident the bet would not come through and he pocketed 700quid for himself, hoping the bet would never be looked at again
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07-07-2012, 09:37   #3
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It's a frustrating one tbh. But this is what I would do. I would go down to the shop and find a different teller. I would ask about the bet and ask for the stake to be confirmed. If she looks through it and says 50 then you are entitled to your 700 back. Why? Because if the bet won you wouldn't have been paid. It's your responsibility to ensure that the right stake is on the docket when you placed the bet and the system can't be manipulated after the event.

If the bet has been processed as a €50 bet then I see no possibility eventuality where you don receive your 700 back.

The teller, possibly will be hoping that you just put it down as a loser and not return.

Take this as a sign to never do such a retarded bet again.
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07-07-2012, 11:50   #4
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If someone done this bet then they haven't a hope in hell of getting a penny returned+ if the bet had of won, all they would have got back is €57 and not a penny more.

They'd have no evidence of handing over the additional €700, unless the office security cameras picked it up (good luck trying to weave that out of them).

Anyway, the person handed over the €750, and even if the cameras did prove it, then why would someone hand over €750 for a €50 bet?

Personally think this thread is a wind up but anyway (someone places a €750 bet, doesn't check the receipt, walks out of the betting shop, bet loses, notices an error on the amount and comes onto boards.ie for advice)

Yeah right
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if the teller was 700 euro up when till counted then he/she would be asked why then they look through dockets to see then put it in system thats what will happen
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proves how bad bookies are at moment went in to do simpson to win tournament and simpson to win his 3 ball on thursday at 11/8 in a double and was told cant put it on as it was related..... how???
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proves how bad bookies are at moment went in to do simpson to win tournament and simpson to win his 3 ball on thursday at 11/8 in a double and was told cant put it on as it was related..... how???
Because it is related. If Simpson wins his 3 ball, it shortens the odds on him winning the tournament, meaning your money is rolling over at a reduced price. It's not like a soccer double where seperate games have no bearing on each other
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Hard to imagine it was a mistake. I'd say it was understaked deliberately.

Alternatively, after the cashier took the money, and scanned the image at €50, it would have to come along and translate the bet, and at that stage it would have spotted any error and had to amend the slip and put it right on the system?

Was it an independent bookies? you could ask them to show you what your bet slip number was recorded as or their screen or print outs from yesterday?

But you wouldn't be entitled to anything back either way imho.

But it would prove if the €750 was officially put through the system or kept under the counter so to speak.
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Because it is related. If Simpson wins his 3 ball, it shortens the odds on him winning the tournament, meaning your money is rolling over at a reduced price. It's not like a soccer double where seperate games have no bearing on each other
the relationship between winning a 1st round 3 ball and coming first out of 100 players is miniscule. Any bookie turning down that particular bet is an absolute fool !
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Neiler987 you also have this thread from 2 months ago : Accidentally putting a bet online.

Imo you are just looking for some sort of a way out of a bet you lost, which is similar to the thread I have linked from you. (what you said was a lot of money) - €350

You meant to put 750 on this bet, it lost. Unlucky, but you don't deserve 700 of it back!!
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if the teller was 700 euro up when till counted then he/she would be asked why then they look through dockets to see then put it in system thats what will happen
this.

the amount would have been corrected either when inputing the bet into the system or at the end of the day when they noticed the 'extra' cash.

you would have been paid out on e750 99.9% of the time.

it is your fault. You have no chance of getting the e700 back and as it is a gentlemans agreement there is nobody with official powers you can appeal to.

check your docket next time.

what was the bet?
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the relationship between winning a 1st round 3 ball and coming first out of 100 players is miniscule. Any bookie turning down that particular bet is an absolute fool !
so you agree its related?
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the relationship between winning a 1st round 3 ball and coming first out of 100 players is miniscule. Any bookie turning down that particular bet is an absolute fool !
Not a bookie in the world who would take it. They must all be fools.
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so you agree its related?
Is it a related bet? Of course it is and I accepted that. To suggest a bookie never takes a related bet would be incorrect.

For example, every week they price up wincast and scorecast bets which are related.

E.g Rooney to score anytime and Man Utd to win. Totally related ! and far more likely to win out than the golf bet.

But they price these according to risk.

So, the point I made is, yes, the cashier was correct to follow staff policy and training, BUT if I was the bookie, I'd expect the cashier to ring head office etc and see if I was willing to price it up as a double. And yes, regardless of the outcome of the Greenbrier Tournament, I would think any clever bookie would be willing to price it up all day long, esp given that is is more likely to lose as a double with loss of full stake, rather that have one or two winning parts as part of two single bets with no profit for the bookie.
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Not a bookie in the world who would take it. They must all be fools.
Yes they would lay it.
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