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Teamshadowclan · 05-07-2012, 00:02

I think I read somewhere that there's two copies of the belts; a HD version and a standard version.

The HD version is transported to TV shows by WWE. The standard are carried by preformers, and are used at house shows and the likes. There's been instances in the past where the HD versions have gone missing and have been replaced on TV with the lower quality versions.

**jaykhunter** · 05-07-2012, 02:03

Interesting! Seems like a waste of time & effort bringing two copies of each belt around.

I heard that performers have to carry the real thing around with them and it's their responsibility. (I believe they also have to plonk down a deposit). Sheamo commented on having to have it as his carry-on luggage everywhere, it's extremely heavy but it's a burden he loves. And although most wrestlers hide it in their bags D-Von said Bubba Ray (before he was Bully) would wear his tag belt through the airport!

I imagine they have exact replicas in Stamford but if a performer lost his belt (the shame!) he'd have to use someone else's belt or a replica. I kinda recall somebody coming out with the wrong midcard belt at a house show.

starviewadams · 05-07-2012, 02:08

Yeah I remember a photo of Jericho wearing the old Light Heavyweight Title at a house show doing the rounds a good few years back,think his Intercontinental title got lost with his luggage IIRC.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 05-07-2012, 05:05

Jericho had to use the Women's title for that house show. The centre piece was covered in electrical tape. He had left the IC belt back in his hotel room.

CastorTroy · 05-07-2012, 09:30

Sure don't forget the IC title could have different colours like blue or white. I remember reading once that the real belts consisting of the gold, etc. are transported from show to show securely while the champions use replicas for public appearances. Though that was a good while ago that that was the case.

jamc · 05-07-2012, 13:20

Why is Jerry Lawler allowed to wrestle on the independent circuit?

I'm sure I've seen him advertised for shows recently

Teamshadowclan · 05-07-2012, 13:29

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Originally Posted by jamc

Why is Jerry Lalwer allowed to wrestle on the independent circuit?

I'm sure I've seen him advertised for shows recently

He only works one night a week for WWE (twice on PPV weeks) so he has the time.

I guess at some stage during his last contract negotiations, he managed to get it put in he could do indy shows.

gnfnrhead · 05-07-2012, 20:30

He can't appear on PPV or DVD shows. Everything else is fair game so long as it doesn't affect his WWE commitments.

Stereomaniac · 05-07-2012, 22:26

Which is fair enough. Vince McMahon also signed him while he was still involved with USWA in Memphis (I'm not sure of the exact arrangement but Bret and Owen went there wrestling).

bobby_says_hi · 06-07-2012, 02:06

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Originally Posted by CastorTroy

Is there any set rule for wrestlers staying in character while doing interviews? Under what circumstances can they break character?
I prefer to read interviews with wrestlers when they're just being themselves and talking about who they like to work with, etc as opposed to guys who just seem to be slagging off their upcoming opponent.

in the older days when kayfabe was really preserved it was strongly enforced. nowadays wrestling fans are too sophisticated to believe that faces and heels really hate each other. in most mainstream interviews, they are out of character but they do preserve kayfabe in a little way. they will acknowledge that the storylines aren't real but they do pretend that the matches are actual competition. they'll just avoid saying the matches are scripted. it's only on WWE.com interviews that they'll stay in character

some wrestlers do try to exploit this to build excitement in their feuds. Gail Kim said in an interview that she wouldn't like anyone to believe that her and Awesome Kong were good friends behind the scenes during their feud and earlier than that her and Jacqueline kept a lot of people backstage guessing whether or not they actually really hated each other when they were feuding. and she got annoyed when Melina tweeted her fans that their little feud on Superstars last year was just a storyline

Teamshadowclan · 08-07-2012, 00:49

Is there any wrestling based charities out there? I know there's the Nowinski Concussion Research thingy, but I was wondering if there's proper charities and the likes with wrestling connections.

Cherry_Cola · 08-07-2012, 01:03

How is CZW still in business?

I don't mean that in a negative sense, it's just with all the talk of ROH's difficulties at the moment, I'm surprised how CZW can keep going. I've just started watching the Cinco de Mayo event and there can't be more than 50 people at it.

I know they don't travel much but is it really as simple as that? Is it just a case of running more events? I can't imagine they pay the talent all that much, though when you see the risks some are willing to take, it makes you wonder.

gnfnrhead · 08-07-2012, 03:01

CZW kept it to about one show a month and don't bring in many big outsiders. ROH run several events per month (and have done since probably year two or three) and are fond of bringing in outsiders with name value. Most Indy guys are paid per appearance meaning ROH are paying some guys three or four times a month while CZW would be paying them once, maybe twice.

Cinco was a minor show for CZW, I think it's only about two hours. All their proper shows get a good crowd and the big shows (KOTDM, TOD etc) are nearly always full houses.

Charisteas · 08-07-2012, 13:58

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Originally Posted by Teamshadowclan

Is there any wrestling based charities out there? I know there's the Nowinski Concussion Research thingy, but I was wondering if there's proper charities and the likes with wrestling connections.

The last wrestling event I went to was a fundraiser for a young kid with Cerebral Palsy. It was a NLW show in April which had Prince Devitt on the show and the owner of Zero-1 Gravity was there scouting.

Unfortunately, there were less than 100 fans in attendance, likely because the show was in Bray and not in the heart of Dublin where some MSW shows i've been to were standing room only, but really hope that extra cash has made a difference to that kid's life.

http://www.braypeople.ie/news/live-w...y-3078264.html

I would have more respect for Jim Ross if he should start a Cerebral Palsy charity instead of faffing about trying to sell Barbecue Sauce.

**jaykhunter** · 08-07-2012, 14:10

Just a note there, JR had several bouts of Bell's Palsy, which is facial nerve paralysis. Cerebral palsy happens to infants 0-2 generally much more severe and involves movement, learning, hearing etc.

Wrestler's Rescue seems to be a legit charity. It's run by Dawn Marie.

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05-07-2012, 00:02	#1771
Teamshadowclan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In My House Posts: 8,287 Adverts \| Friends	I think I read somewhere that there's two copies of the belts; a HD version and a standard version. The HD version is transported to TV shows by WWE. The standard are carried by preformers, and are used at house shows and the likes. There's been instances in the past where the HD versions have gone missing and have been replaced on TV with the lower quality versions.

05-07-2012, 02:03	#1772
jaykhunter Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Temple Bar, Dublin Posts: 8,306 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Podcasts, Pro Wrestling, Sega	Interesting! Seems like a waste of time & effort bringing two copies of each belt around. I heard that performers have to carry the real thing around with them and it's their responsibility. (I believe they also have to plonk down a deposit). Sheamo commented on having to have it as his carry-on luggage everywhere, it's extremely heavy but it's a burden he loves. And although most wrestlers hide it in their bags D-Von said Bubba Ray (before he was Bully) would wear his tag belt through the airport! I imagine they have exact replicas in Stamford but if a performer lost his belt (the shame!) he'd have to use someone else's belt or a replica. I kinda recall somebody coming out with the wrong midcard belt at a house show.

05-07-2012, 02:08	#1773
starviewadams Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dublin Posts: 5,891 Adverts \| Friends	Yeah I remember a photo of Jericho wearing the old Light Heavyweight Title at a house show doing the rounds a good few years back,think his Intercontinental title got lost with his luggage IIRC.

05-07-2012, 05:05	#1774
DEFTLEFTHAND Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Valley Of The Calm Trees Posts: 5,262 Adverts \| Friends	Jericho had to use the Women's title for that house show. The centre piece was covered in electrical tape. He had left the IC belt back in his hotel room.

05-07-2012, 09:30	#1775
CastorTroy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,455 Adverts \| Friends	Sure don't forget the IC title could have different colours like blue or white. I remember reading once that the real belts consisting of the gold, etc. are transported from show to show securely while the champions use replicas for public appearances. Though that was a good while ago that that was the case.

05-07-2012, 20:30	#1778
gnfnrhead Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,959 Adverts \| Friends	He can't appear on PPV or DVD shows. Everything else is fair game so long as it doesn't affect his WWE commitments.

05-07-2012, 22:26	#1779
Stereomaniac Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Bird Cage Posts: 1,792 Adverts \| Friends	Which is fair enough. Vince McMahon also signed him while he was still involved with USWA in Memphis (I'm not sure of the exact arrangement but Bret and Owen went there wrestling).

08-07-2012, 00:49	#1781
Teamshadowclan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In My House Posts: 8,287 Adverts \| Friends	Is there any wrestling based charities out there? I know there's the Nowinski Concussion Research thingy, but I was wondering if there's proper charities and the likes with wrestling connections.

08-07-2012, 01:03	#1782
Cherry_Cola Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,634 Adverts \| Friends	How is CZW still in business? I don't mean that in a negative sense, it's just with all the talk of ROH's difficulties at the moment, I'm surprised how CZW can keep going. I've just started watching the Cinco de Mayo event and there can't be more than 50 people at it. I know they don't travel much but is it really as simple as that? Is it just a case of running more events? I can't imagine they pay the talent all that much, though when you see the risks some are willing to take, it makes you wonder.

08-07-2012, 03:01	#1783
gnfnrhead Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,959 Adverts \| Friends	CZW kept it to about one show a month and don't bring in many big outsiders. ROH run several events per month (and have done since probably year two or three) and are fond of bringing in outsiders with name value. Most Indy guys are paid per appearance meaning ROH are paying some guys three or four times a month while CZW would be paying them once, maybe twice. Cinco was a minor show for CZW, I think it's only about two hours. All their proper shows get a good crowd and the big shows (KOTDM, TOD etc) are nearly always full houses.

08-07-2012, 14:10	#1785
jaykhunter Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Temple Bar, Dublin Posts: 8,306 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Podcasts, Pro Wrestling, Sega	Just a note there, JR had several bouts of Bell's Palsy, which is facial nerve paralysis. Cerebral palsy happens to infants 0-2 generally much more severe and involves movement, learning, hearing etc. Wrestler's Rescue seems to be a legit charity. It's run by Dawn Marie.