[Tabnabs]

Nice to see something unusual in and out of Dublin again
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shi...mmsi=258531000

[Rocky Bay]

O to be on the beach in Rocky Bay this morning...Olib and Alfa Italia laying offshore with the Esther Schulte and her bananas approaching as I type this. Last time I was in Ringaskiddy I don't recall noticing a container yard so I would imagine that there is a long line of artic's waiting for the boxes off the Esther Schulte. I would also imagine every time a "banana boat" makes a call this is the practice, does anybody know that to be true?

[Rocky Bay]

Alfa Germania off the southcoast as I type this. The Freja Hafnia which departed from Whiddy over two weeks ago and discharged in New Jersey a few days ago was laying off the N.J. coast. Last indications were that it was headed back into New York harbour, this morning A.I.S. indicates it is "out of range".

[bladebrew]

Originally Posted by Rocky Bay

Last time I was in Ringaskiddy I don't recall noticing a container yard so I would imagine that there is a long line of artic's waiting for the boxes off the Esther Schulte. I would also imagine every time a "banana boat" makes a call this is the practice, does anybody know that to be true?

I was wondering the same thing when the "banana" service started, it seems to be a very recent thing though,

http://afloat.ie/port-news/port-of-c...ainer-facility

this article is only from this week, it mentions the creation of a container storage area, so they must have had some spare room,
how many containers are coming off at a time?, from reading bits on the internet they sound like a fecking nuisance to transport,
i am assuming they all head to togher to be ripened?

edit: sorry i answered a question with a question!

[Rocky Bay]

The Orpheas joins the Alfa Germania in Bantry Bay. Is it first come, first served?

[Rocky Bay]

Originally Posted by bladebrew

I was wondering the same thing when the "banana" service started, it seems to be a very recent thing though,

http://afloat.ie/port-news/port-of-c...ainer-facility

this article is only from this week, it mentions the creation of a container storage area, so they must have had some spare room,
how many containers are coming off at a time?, from reading bits on the internet they sound like a fecking nuisance to transport,
i am assuming they all head to togher to be ripened?

edit: sorry i answered a question with a question!

I seem to remember a "banana call" at Ringaskiddy up until a few years ago, just can't remember the details. I wonder if anyone bothered to consider deepening the river and using Marino Point as a place to drop boxes. Marino Point is connected the the rail system, so many of those boxes could go "up the country" by rail to a certain point. ( I will leave the naming/shaming of the moron who decided to sever rail service into the Tivoli container terminal to another thread/discussion!)

[goldie fish]

Originally Posted by Rocky Bay

I seem to remember a "banana call" at Ringaskiddy up until a few years ago, just can't remember the details. I wonder if anyone bothered to consider deepening the river and using Marino Point as a place to drop boxes. Marino Point is connected the the rail system, so many of those boxes could go "up the country" by rail to a certain point. ( I will leave the naming/shaming of the moron who decided to sever rail service into the Tivoli container terminal to another thread/discussion!)

Deepening the river? Pointless, while the low hanging ESB lines are there. It isn't the depth that's the issue, there's 17m of water below datum at Marino Point. Port of cork plan to use Marino Point as their new Bulk cargo Hub. Container hubs need to be as close to the open sea as possible. The turnaround is so short there is no advantage adding an hour transit time each end. It will just deter the lines from stopping there. That is one of the reasons Waterford(Bellevue) lost out.
There is a rail link to Marino Point in the same way there is a rail link to tivoli. The line is still there, but Irish Rail are not doing TEU freight any more.

[who the fug]

Originally Posted by Rocky Bay

The Orpheas joins the Alfa Germania in Bantry Bay. Is it first come, first served?

Orpheas wins

[Rocky Bay]

Originally Posted by who the fug

Orpheas wins

Anybody know why? Alfa was first "on line". The Freja Hafnia has reappeared. It is laying up just north of the Verrazano Narrows bridge, just offshore of Staten Island in the "upper bay" of New York harbour. Still showing New York as its next destination. The Verrazano Narrows bridge connects the NYC boroughs of Brooklyn and Staten Island.

[Rocky Bay]

Originally Posted by goldie fish

Deepening the river? Pointless, while the low hanging ESB lines are there. It isn't the depth that's the issue, there's 17m of water below datum at Marino Point. Port of cork plan to use Marino Point as their new Bulk cargo Hub. Container hubs need to be as close to the open sea as possible. The turnaround is so short there is no advantage adding an hour transit time each end. It will just deter the lines from stopping there. That is one of the reasons Waterford(Bellevue) lost out.
There is a rail link to Marino Point in the same way there is a rail link to tivoli. The line is still there, but Irish Rail are not doing TEU freight any more.

I would think that the wires would not pose a problem, just raise the pylons on each side of the river. Would it actually take an additional hour to go to Marino Point as opposed to the DWB? On my last trip between Midleton and Cork on the train I could see the switch into Tivoli has been removed, this was well after reading about it some years ago. CIE is running container trains but only between two or three points-Mayo to Wexford or is it Waterford? Thanks for the news that Marino Point will be put to use, had no idea of that bulk port. In America there is a saying..."Keep on trucking ...by train" ( trailers and containers on railway flatcars as opposed to road movements.)

[Rocky Bay]

Now for something a little tougher than observing tanker movements in and out of Bantry Bay.
Does anybody know what happened to the Daunt lightship off of Roberts Cove?
Does anybody know what happened to "Ship Ahoy" the column in the Echo by Peter Levy? I think it stopped appearing about ten years ago.

[Rocky Bay]

Another tanker off the southcoast headed for Bantry, SCF Primorye.

[mp22]

Originally Posted by Rocky Bay

Another tanker off the southcoast headed for Bantry, SCF Primorye.

Its like O'Connell street in the rush hour here.

[Rocky Bay]

Originally Posted by mp22

Its like O'Connell street in the rush hour here.

Will all three load or are they unloading?

[goldie fish]

Must be something happening with the Price of crude. Alfa Germania is due in Whitegate on the 7th,