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02-06-2012, 22:04   #46
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i always found 2 strands enough when vaping at lower voltages but *shrug*
so many variables, hard to know what either of us is doing

decided to experiment today with the spacing of the turns on the coil... almost out of wick now and i've completely forgotten what my "good" setup was .. feeling like **** cos ive been vaping so much for the past few hours.. gonna leave it for a while and try again later
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02-06-2012, 22:40   #47
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Dunno but the 2 strands were drying out very quickly anyway. Maybe I had them too tight? Who the hell knows!

The 3 is working a treat anyway. Huge vapour. Havent a clue what ohms I have cos multimeter is in work.

Found it much easier to make the coil using 3 strands and winding a couple of extra turns then unwinding. I was actually wondering about the spacing this evening myself too.

I can shoot you off some wick on Monday if you're short?
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nah yer alright
i have enough left for a good few coils its just at the rate I was rebuilding them I am gona run out soon I'll still be able to vape whatever coil I end up making as my last until I get more next week from andrei


I got the perfect vape there earlier.. quite a bit better than what I was previously very happy with.. but to get it I have to put the coils just about right beside each other.. it tastes amazing but the wick was burnt to **** in the space of ten minutes

i dont know if that's bad or not.. I dont like to see it anyway
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it tastes amazing but the wick was burnt to **** in the space of ten minutes

i dont know if that's bad or not.. I dont like to see it anyway
If your vaping constantly like every 10 minutes or so, you should be probably getting about 5 days out of the wick.

If your firing up at 5+v with .20 wire that will probably contribute to it falling apart. Need to be using suitable wire (.12/13) with that i'd imagine.

Sounds like it's not wicking fast enough either.
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thhe .20 works fine if the coils are evenly spaced, its when I coil them tight together they get singed (at least with the 4 strands)

the problem is I much prefer the flavour when they're coiled tightly together.. tried it with some .13 and it singed the same as the .20.. I dont think there's any way around it tbh. with the wire that tightly packed the heat on the wick at that point would be pretty immense
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so...derra
when you said a few days/pages back was I sure I was using .20 nichrome...
i think you might have been right

I just got some .20 nichrome from andrei and this **** is *so* much thicker compared to the .20 nichrome I had before.. unless andrei sent me some kanthal or something by mistake

six turns or thereabouts with 4 strands of wick is giving me roughly 1.5-1.6ohms

i wonder wtf wire the other ".20" I have is

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i think it's .13
i measured roughly equivelant lengths of wire from the .13 and .15 I have and compared to the supposed .20 and it measured out pretty similar to the .13.. was kinda similar to the .15 too but they're similar enough in size that I guess it wouldnt be a huge difference and I was a bit fast and loose with the distance between the meter connectors as it's a pain in the balls trying to get them seated properly on a piece of loose wire

it also looks a bit thinner than the .15 I got from andrei so .13 is looking the most likely


this does explain a few things

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ok
so im using the actual .20 nichrome
1.5ish ohm coil at 4.3 volts
it's pretty much perfect

all the fiddling i've been doing trying to get this right... all because the wire i'd bought was mislabelled
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so im using the actual .20 nichrome
1.5ish ohm coil at 4.3 volts
it's pretty much perfect

all the fiddling i've been doing trying to get this right... all because the wire i'd bought was mislabelled
That sounds bang on now.
4 strands , 6 turns of .20 wire with Andreis wick would get me that measurement too.

3.4 - 3.6 v would do me there but there are more things to consider like the juice stength and pg/vg ratio which would swing the voltage either way.

Another turn would bring you to 1.7/8 Ohms, plenty of wire covering the wick and more vapour.

Ya still getting that harsh kind of kick out of it?
I will find out the size of the hole and still consider making it bigger, don't wanna screw it up either if i wanted to sell it.

Another thing, he is getting clear cases for the RDA i think which i prefer, i like to see what's going on in atties easily !
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the kick is a little softer on that one alright, I just did an 8 turn coil which came out to around 1.7-1.8ohms but the th is a little harsrher.. I think two of the coils are a bit too close which is causing that


i thought he stopped doing clear cases for it because they were too imprecise with the measurements.. be cool to have one alright, id like to see that vapour building up while i take a draw and it'd save me having to take it apart to get a look at stuff
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the kick is a little softer on that one alright, I just did an 8 turn coil which came out to around 1.7-1.8ohms but the th is a little harsrher.. I think two of the coils are a bit too close which is causing that


i thought he stopped doing clear cases for it because they were too imprecise with the measurements.. be cool to have one alright, id like to see that vapour building up while i take a draw and it'd save me having to take it apart to get a look at stuff
Did you turn the voltage up as well ?
Try it at 3.7 v.

What way is your wick now then, 4 strands under coil and 2 tails?
What length are you cutting the wick before winding etc

The more info we gather to set this thing up properly the better

Saw a post earlier about the clear case, maybe it was quoted from a while back.
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heading out for dinner now but ill reply properly when I get back

i have the 4 strands looped under the coil with 2 strands in the case nbut the looped 4 strands are so long that the loop kinda sits into the case.. if you get me
I tried it with 2 strands only and i wasnt really hapy with the wicking but I'll give it another go in the future.. this way I get 4 strands wicking pretty much but the extra 2 strands are all tidied up in the loop so it just looks tidier

ill try get a proper digital camera and take pics when I get back
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i dont really mesure it out before I cut the wick, I just roll out a length that seems right and cut it then whatever I dont need once the coil is made i chop off.. ive gotten good enough at measuring it by eye so I dont have to cut much off at the end

i think ill do up another coil with 8 turns and try it at lower voltages first.. trying it now and im getting good flavour but there's something in the background, which I think is the singed wick from going to high with it
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pics of the coil/wick
this one came out at 1.5ohms, seems a bit low for that many turns

not entirely thrilled with this one.. great vapour and very good flavour but it's missing that something
I made one coil once in the long long ago and I used some liqua turkish tobacco, it came out tasting amazing so every coil I make I use the liqua turkish as my benchmark. this one comes pretty close, but it's missing that something ... can't put my finger on it
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Does either Kanthal or the fibreglass wick have a taste? I'm struggling to create the same clean flavour as I got with the nichrome wire and group buy wick. There's always a king of background taste that I can't seem to get rid of.

I didn't use a lighter on the wire cos I don't have one - must buy one - but does that affect the taste?

Also the background taste I get is very like the taste I got with the iMist I think.
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kanthal does have a stronger initial taste than nichrome, heating it with the lighter helps get rid of it

what I heard/read is kanthal has the stronger taste but will over time dissapear completely
nichrome has the lesser taste and it will lessen over time but never completely go away

in both cases running a lighter flame over it before you coil helps
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