[Crooked Jack]

Originally Posted by jameverywhere

The fact that you're even asking this question is concerning.

Unless you were assured of your own immunity, being the person who unleashes the virus on the world pretty much guarantees that you will be one of the first infected. If not THE first. Which means, yay, you're a zombie, and you've just kickstarted the Zed apocalypse. Can't you find a less dastardly way of committing suicide?

If you were sure of your own immunity to the virus, and just wanted to live in a video game for a while, let me tell you, it would get old really fast.

How about this. Gather up all the camping gear you own, or all the supplies that you would want to use in a Zed apocalypse. Pack them into your car or onto a touring bicycle. Go off into the wilderness by yourself for a week.

drive until your car runs out of petrol, then abandon it because there's no petrol left. (skip this step if you chose the bike)

Eat out of tins, sleep in the dirt, pretend there are zombies around every corner and practice running away from them because, let's face it, you're not going to have a gun or ammunition by this point. For added reality points, camp somewhere with bears like in Alaska or where there are known mountain lions for added danger and adrenaline.

Pick up and go home when you're tired, sore, lonely, and out of food. (Or, get eaten by a bear.)


If you enjoyed it, congrats, you're crazy. Sell your house, buy more camping gear/cycling kit, and live in the woods for the rest of your life.


If you didn't enjoy it, congrats, you're just a regular guy. Go back to your normal life and feel guilty for secretly wanting to kill millions of people just to have a life that seems cool but actually sucks.

Well firstly, my sincere apologies for wanting "a life that seems cool." I'll just sit here at the computer until my lungs finally give out under the weight of my tits.
Secondly, your assertions are just as much assumptions as mine are, neither of us know what it would really be like.
Thirdly, any Z-Head will tell you that zombies and bears have a number of subtle but key differences. (Zombie bears are an entirely different issue.)
Fourthly, I gave a second option where instead of causing the zombie apocalypse you travel to an alternate reality where it is already happening.
Thus meaning I wouldnt be killing millions of anything.

Leaving aside the patronising video game comments and your "assurances" that it would get old fast (have you lived through one of these before) I still think I'd be tempted by it. There is a fairly significant part of me drawn to the apocalyptic. I think it would put a lot of stuff in perspective.

[jameverywhere]

I speak as someone who regularly goes out touring on a bike and has no problem camping out in nothing but a bivvy bag, eating trail mix and tinned fish and cycling 50 miles a day just 'cause I like it. I would qualify under my definition of "crazy" above except that I can only last for so long doing that before I want to check my email, talk to my mother on the phone, hang out with my friends, and sleep in a real bed for a while...



If you really wanted a cool life, you'd go out and DO something rather than sit around on the internet fantasizing about it. Okay, if you're completely ready for a zombie apocalypse, why not just quit your job, do something like hitchhike across Europe or kayak to New York or something crazy, death-defying... something that reorganises your priorities and makes you appreciate life more. If you really would unleash the Z virus to make your life what most would describe a living hell, surely you can find some other kind of sport or activity you seriously enjoy, and give up everything for that.


If you think an apocalypse would be a good life, how are you so sure that you'd survive? Are you physically fit? Do you have contingency plans? Do you have emergency supplies? If not, you might want to work on that first otherwise the experience for you would be very short.



Also, if you have a bit of money kicking around you could try the zombie shopping mall or manor house over in the UK. I'm actually signed up to do the shopping mall one on 15th June.


I totally get where you're coming from, wanting a life that comes from a completely different perspective, wanting to live in a video gam--as in just have cool stuff happen all the time. Which is why I'm training myself for physical fitness, going out camping and stuff, and am planning a cycle tour of Ireland in July and to cycle across America with my mates in summer 2013. Sure a zombie apocalypse won't happen so you won't get to experience that (except for a single day if you sign up for something like I mentioned above), but I'm sure you can find a kind of life that really is possible on this Earth, in this reality, and live the **** out of it and be happy and fulfilled, y'know?

I hope you find that, anyway.

[Crooked Jack]

Cant really shoot people in the head hitch hiking across Europe. Plus all that stuff costs money, of which I quite literally have minus amount, whereas Im pretty sure World War Z would be a freebie

[jameverywhere]

your desire to shoot people in the head is really alarming as well... but maybe you could take up archery or something? just throwin' ideas out there. Shooting guns at a range is fun but a lot more expensive... there's also hunting, and you get free meals out of that.

[Crooked Jack]

zombies arent people. See, this is why I'll survive the apocalypse and you wont. You'll run up to hug your zombified former wife whereas I'll shoot anything that moans

[jameverywhere]

you're the one who said "shoot people in the head", not me, dude. I was just quoting you.

Freudian slip?

[ChaseThisLight]

Originally Posted by Crooked Jack

There is a fairly significant part of me drawn to the apocalyptic. I think it would put a lot of stuff in perspective.

It's the apocalyptic nature of the ZA that draws me to all things zombie, just as much as the zombies do. I am really intrigued by the survival aspect of it. It's why I watch movies that deal with this, read books about it, research and plan what I will need to do, etc. I would love to go to the events jameverywhere mentioned (and is going to - I'm SO jealous!), I would even do as he suggested and go out and experience what he outlined - those are perfect examples of ways to experience the feel of a world where you have to survive without your daily comforts and/or your problems. As interested as I am in all of that though, I'd never wish any scenario that would make it happen, be it a virus or nuclear weapons, to come true just so I could experience it for real.

Also, since it's been brought up, for me, it's not about how many zombies I can kill, or about killing in general. I honestly don't want to have to kill anyone/anything; it's not something I would ever look forward to. The fact is, most people will probably find that actually killing someone/something is going to be a lot harder than you think.

[Tzar Chasm]

YES, yes I would

Some days I despair for this world, most days its just contempt and
very ocasionaly its merely apathy.

unleashing a Z apocalypse would be signifiantly easier than the current plan, which is to ignite the atmosphere and rid the planet of all Life, this would be species specific and would allow the rest of planet to live.

People are idiots and they need to go, granted this includes me, but what the hell, the day I finally commit to the suicide urge I'm takingh you ALL with me.

[jameverywhere]

Originally Posted by ChaseThisLight

Also, since it's been brought up, for me, it's not about how many zombies I can kill, or about killing in general. I honestly don't want to have to kill anyone/anything; it's not something I would ever look forward to. The fact is, most people will probably find that actually killing someone/something is going to be a lot harder than you think.

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also, +1 to this. I've gutted and cleaned fish, dissected worms, frogs, and pigs. . . I eat meat and have no problem with the death of animals. However, killing a mouse in a trap was kinda hard for me! Killing something human-shaped will surely be difficult, not something you get used to quickly...

[ChaseThisLight]

Originally Posted by jameverywhere

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You know, even as I typed "he", there was this part of me that thought I should be vague and not use he or she, just so I'd not be assuming. My apologies, especially since I've been called "he" before, too.

also, +1 to this. I've gutted and cleaned fish, dissected worms, frogs, and pigs. . . I eat meat and have no problem with the death of animals. However, killing a mouse in a trap was kinda hard for me! Killing something human-shaped will surely be difficult, not something you get used to quickly...

Exactly. I imagine that's why some people, even people in law enforcement, hesitate at times when having to shoot someone. It's one thing to shoot at targets, or to shoot zombies/people in video games - and even to shoot animals (I know someone who went hunting, shot one deer, and decided it wasn't something they could ever do again). But to shoot a person - or an undead person - is a whole other thing.

[Crooked Jack]

Originally Posted by jameverywhere

you're the one who said "shoot people in the head", not me, dude. I was just quoting you.

Freudian slip?

I think you'll find i said you cant shoot people in the head. Im all for shooting zombies.

[Daisy M]

Originally Posted by ChaseThisLight

You know, even as I typed "he", there was this part of me that thought I should be vague and not use he or she, just so I'd not be assuming. My apologies, especially since I've been called "he" before, too.
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By me . Us ladies are guilty of been a bit sexist in this forum, I can honestly say I have only ever met one other woman who has confessed to been a zombie fan, its great to see its more common than I realised.


Crooked Jack your ignorance on what the reality of a zombie apocalypse would be like would mean you would be among the first to be a snack. This is meant in the nicest possible way of course. If your jaded by things like the government and money, you will be crying like a baby from hunger and fear.

[Zomg Okay]

Originally Posted by ChaseThisLight

But to shoot a person - or an undead person - is a whole other thing.

You have to take survival instinct into as well. You'd be surprised what you can do when it's "him or me".

[Crooked Jack]

Originally Posted by Daisy M

By me . Us ladies are guilty of been a bit sexist in this forum, I can honestly say I have only ever met one other woman who has confessed to been a zombie fan, its great to see its more common than I realised.


Crooked Jack your ignorance on what the reality of a zombie apocalypse would be like would mean you would be among the first to be a snack. This is meant in the nicest possible way of course. If your jaded by things like the government and money, you will be crying like a baby from hunger and fear.

Im fully aware of what the reality of it would be and yet I still find myself drawn to it. I have no doubt hunger and fear would play a huge part in it, wouldnt be much of a zombie apocalypse without them, but still it calls to me.
Im not claiming I'd be some all conquering hero of the ZA, Im just saying there's a big part of me would like to be there

[Crooked Jack]

Originally Posted by Zomg Okay

You have to take survival instinct into as well. You'd be surprised what you can do when it's "him or me".

Yeah. you also have to take into account some other little minute details like 'they're already dead' and 'they're trying to eat me.'