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19-05-2012, 22:32   #496
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I don't recall any politician ever promising that.


This post brought to you in a vain effort to bring some measure of honesty to this debate.
Promise is a strong word. The vasy majority of politics is subtlety of languange. Even today I had a leaflet from Labour through the door about the estate been taken in charge and all the work and meetings to achieve it. I might of believed it if it wasn't for the fact that the local RA had for 4+years been working on this and we had held several meetings with the local coco and builders representative toachieve this and pushed it using local press. The fact it is nearly resovled and now major parties who have not has the slightest interest now post letters saying in their name (without directly saying it was them mind you) saying it is about done is shameful.

Modern society is continued only through politicians promising that wealth will be 'ours' if we vote for them.
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19-05-2012, 23:39   #497
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Modern society is continued only through politicians promising that wealth will be 'ours' if we vote for them.
...and 'we' continue to vote for them on the strength of the 'promises' they make.

We deserve each other, really.
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20-05-2012, 02:48   #498
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...and 'we' continue to vote for them on the strength of the 'promises' they make.

We deserve each other, really.

Agreed, the vast majority of the country have neither the interest or the involvlement to make an informed decision. As as a result most parties can manipulate the result or distort the information to their own ends.
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Should Ireland Leave the EU?
Yes, if we cannot substantially modify it we should abandon it and possibly join EFTA.
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30-05-2012, 10:01   #500
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Yes, if we cannot substantially modify it we should abandon it and possibly join EFTA.
Can you elaborate on what needs to be modified? My point on the "Is the EU doomed" thread is that, if anything, the EU is working too well. Of course I'm referring to the fundamental four economic freedoms of the EU and by default extension to the EEA.
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