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28-05-2012, 15:51   #31
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Anyone could come out with the statement as it may happen sometime in the future. But with the US stagnating, Europe at a standstill and the UK in just as bad shape as Ireland (outside London) it will be a long time and maybe towards the end of the current governments 5 years before we know. So if you make a statement which can go either way and take a long time to be verified how else would you describe the statement?
Lets see, the BRIC countries account for 4% of our exports. If we successfully target them (say double that proportion) and keep other exports static the rocket will have launched.
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didnt he lay off a whole load of workers in manchester? so much for the 'ordinary working joe' line he often spouts..
Do you have a link for this? or am I feeding a troll.
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28-05-2012, 21:54   #33
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They started talking to me about bin charges, management fees and some other topical stuff and I challenged their views and actually explained to them my opinion. Then something caught my eye on the 'paper' about Joe advising residents not to pay the management charges etc and I asked the two lads why Joe was giving false advise and forcing other families to have to contribute extra to supplement people who took his advise not to pay?

Really? Was that in his rag? Management companies are essentially co-ops of homeowners, if he is advising that he may as well advise people to break into their neighbours house and steal cash as it amounts to the same thing. Typical populist communist rubbish with no thought about what the consequences are.
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Liberty Equality Beneifts! Everything for everybody, paid for by everbody else! Long live the revolution comrades!
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28-05-2012, 22:15   #35
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When it comes to Economics both he and SF are total spoofers when it comes to economic policy.

But in fairness so too are FG and Labour. Since they have come to power they have done nothing to improve the domestic economy and threaten to push us into a deeper recession.

The standard of professional politicians and high ranking civil servants is poor.
I suppose creating 1000 jobs a month is doing nothing to improve the domestic economy! Get real! Nation of begrudgers is all we are

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I suppose creating 1000 jobs a month is doing nothing to improve the domestic economy! Get real! Nation of begrudgers is all we are
Speak for yourself!

This is a bit off topic but it relates to Joe Higgins being a chancer.

Here's the thing, Governments don't really create jobs, they spend money. The private sector creates jobs, the govt takes a stipend from the profit, then spends/invests it. In fact the govt has done little to cut the actual costs of doing business in Ireland.

The wage cuts have been done in the private sector (I know the public sector have seen there wages cut but their wages are frozen under the CPA)and that's where competitiveness has been restored. This could soon be whittled away by the increased debt burden which will impinge on cost of living. How the govt close the deficit matters. If they make a balls of it our competitiveness will be wiped out. It's debatable as to whether or not they can do this, but that's a nother matter.

The most they can really do to create jobs is see to it that the conditions are good /attractive for entrepeneurs. Personally I don't see that they've actually changed anything in this area. Pr about us not being Greece isn't all that impressive, it doesn't count!
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28-05-2012, 23:15   #37
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Joe Higgins is a Legend.
The only politician who wants to copy Norway, instead of selling our of shore mineral wealth to the best connected boys in Dublin.
Shame on Pat Rabitte for selling us out(FF+FG goes without saying)
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28-05-2012, 23:32   #38
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Joe Higgins is a Legend.
The only politician who wants to copy Norway, instead of selling our of shore mineral wealth to the best connected boys in Dublin.
Shame on Pat Rabitte for selling us out(FF+FG goes without saying)
Yeah because the Irish state has a couple of billion stashed away to prospect for oil and gas and essentially gamble it on the chance of finding an economically viable method of bringing it on shore.

There is a reason why our western seaboard isnt littered with oil companies as the risk / return potential isn't guaranteed But then again those who listen to the likes of commie Joe wouldn't want to be bothered with facts and reality.
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Shame on Pat Rabitte for selling us out(FF+FG goes without saying)
Joe Higgins speaks more garbage per square minute than any other TD in Dail Eireann - except for Clare Daly.

Yet the media can't get enough of him and he runs rings around most interviewers. He segues every answer into a series of pat monologues. When asked the 'wrong' question he just parks it and embarks on one of his prepared tangents.

His grasp of economics is dire. He mines the (capitalist) press for one liners which he then presents as proof that his oh-so-convoluted theories make sense. An interminable spoofer.

When the boom was raging why didn't he just advise people that house prices were insane and would inevitably collapse. Then he would have truly done the State some service.
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29-05-2012, 08:01   #40
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Joe's unelected MEP buddy Murphy was on Vin Browne last night and made a complete tool of himself a credit to the yes side.

All the while the socialists are going on about being controlled by the unelected troika while Paul Murphy is happy to ride the MEP gravy train when never even been elected to anything !!!! He couldn't even win a UCD SU election !!
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His grasp of economics is dire.
I really doubt that Joe doesn't realise current levels of government spending are totally unsustainable.
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Joe Higgins speaks more garbage per square minute than any other TD in Dail Eireann - except for Clare Daly.

Yet the media can't get enough of him and he runs rings around most interviewers. He segues every answer into a series of pat monologues. When asked the 'wrong' question he just parks it and embarks on one of his prepared tangents.

His grasp of economics is dire. He mines the (capitalist) press for one liners which he then presents as proof that his oh-so-convoluted theories make sense. An interminable spoofer.

When the boom was raging why didn't he just advise people that house prices were insane and would inevitably collapse. Then he would have truly done the State some service.

This sums up what I was trying to say about him in the 1st place.

That night in question, he had a mountain of A4 sheets on his lap, like a student. While Rabitte was answering his questions, Joe spent his time rustling through them, no doubt getting the next few generic lines that he had to read out to make himself look intelligent (of course doesn't matter whether it answered the question he was asked or not).

I was very disappointed in Sean O'Rourke that night. Never seen much of him before but I had always heard he was good at his job. For me, he let Joe do what a lot of poor politicians do - dodge the question, say they will come back and answer it, but eventually know that the time on TV is very strict and it'll run out, and they will not have to answer the question.
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Joe Higgins speaks more garbage per square minute than any other TD in Dail Eireann - except for Clare Daly.
Yeah, Clare makes Joe look like a moderate. She has even less of a grasp of economics.
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Claire Daly ... Definition of a brain terrorist
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Joe Higgins speaks more garbage per square minute than any other TD in Dail Eireann - except for Clare Daly.

Yet the media can't get enough of him and he runs rings around most interviewers. He segues every answer into a series of pat monologues. When asked the 'wrong' question he just parks it and embarks on one of his prepared tangents.

His grasp of economics is dire. He mines the (capitalist) press for one liners which he then presents as proof that his oh-so-convoluted theories make sense. An interminable spoofer.

When the boom was raging why didn't he just advise people that house prices were insane and would inevitably collapse. Then he would have truly done the State some service.
Joe Higgins & Claire Daly, remind me of the two lads in Dumb and Dumber, completely isolated from reality

any interview i've seen or heard them interviewed in the last 18 months they blabber on about there being 200 billion of wealth in ireland and we need to introduce a wealth tax of 1%, interviewer firstly queries the 200 billion figure, then points out if it did exist and state received tax of 2 billion there would still be a significant deficit in the state budget.

they havent a breeze and rarely add anything positive to a debate.
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