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Gorteen · 28-07-2009, 22:27

I have a cracking skewbald yearling filly by Cavalier Jump for Joy. I don't really want to sell her, but with another winter of feeding etc, it looks like she should go. I've advertised her and have only had a few idiots calling, (you know the type I mean)

Would it make more sense to hang on until she's a three year old and have her mouthed, lightly backed, etc????

Comments and advice please.....

Pics for those that would like to suggest a realistic market price.... Maybe I'm being too optomistic!

MDFM · 28-07-2009, 22:41

What age is she now and what price do u have in mind? Its anyone's guess really, horses are a poor trade now, have being for a while, no telling when it and the rest of the economic climate will pick up!

Gorteen · 28-07-2009, 23:05

Yearling!!! Born July 2008

**convert** · 29-07-2009, 00:10

It depends on your situation. I'm not sure how much more another year would add to her value. Plus you run the risk of her getting injured. You'd also have to take into account the cost of keeping her and breaking her.

As mentioned above, horse prices are poor at the moment. I was at a TB sales recently and unbroken 3 year olds were making 300 average. A broken 4yo went for 400. Anything above 500 was a good price. And these horses were decent looking, mostly with clean certs and not badly bred. It was really depressing!

Gorteen · 29-07-2009, 00:22

That's madness!!! I'd prefer to keep her than sell her for factory money!!!

**convert** · 29-07-2009, 00:32

If you're near Goresbridge you could visit the monthly sales held there to get an idea of the prices being made. Also, there was a report on the recent Goresbridge sport horse sales in last week's Irish Field. Might be worth reading it and taking a look at the prices.

Chindato · 29-07-2009, 00:49

There's no market for yearlings. In this country, you sell as foals, three year olds, or under saddle.
Generally, you'll make the best profit (or incur the least loss) selling as a foal. You've missed that boat, so your next best option is at three, lungeing over a pole. Any more training than that will cost you money and unless the animal is exceptional, it's money you won't see again.

Both Cavan and Goresbridge do run youngstock sales in the autumn, so you could try your luck there. The fact that she is coloured might help her sell.

**convert** · 29-07-2009, 00:59

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Originally Posted by Chindato

The fact that she is coloured might help her sell.

Just curious as to why this would be a help for selling and why a coloured horse may be more saleable than bay, chestnut, grey horses?

needadvice · 29-07-2009, 17:44

Its true that there is a cult following on coloured horses but I concur its likely you couldn't give her away but try cavan in September have her looking really amazing and put her in the ring you never know she could just be what someone wants.

Chindato · 30-07-2009, 00:57

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Originally Posted by convert

Just curious as to why this would be a help for selling and why a coloured horse may be more saleable than bay, chestnut, grey horses?

Fashion. No other reason. People like to own a flashy horse

Wicked · 08-08-2009, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Chindato

Fashion. No other reason. People like to own a flashy horse

i think its each person to their own on this one. Personally i wouldn't call a coloured horse 'flashy'. i've never owned one and i never will. but like i said its what you into. I personally just don't like them.

I would have said that a coloured horse may be looked at more favourably in the sales ring because their temperment is generally very quiet and careful. again just my opinion

i'm sticking to the greys and bays though.

p.s i'm not dissing your yearling at all and i hope i don't come accross like that. She is a lovely yearling and coloured horses or any horse in my opinion are lovely. i just wouldnt' buy one.

**convert** · 08-08-2009, 18:58

A coloured horse wouldn't be my personal choice either, but there are some lovely coloured horses out there, so I understand why people would buy them.

When I was a child I always wanted a skewbald pony so I could play cowboys and indians!!

doctor evil · 09-08-2009, 02:20

You can never beat a chestnut mare!

marley123 · 27-05-2012, 22:10

I know this is an old thread, but I just bought a mare today, put her sire into google ( cavalier jump for joy) and age and markings match!!!!

marley123 · 27-05-2012, 22:12

Meant to say when I ran google search this thread come up!

28-07-2009, 23:05	#3
Gorteen Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 86 Adverts \| Friends	Cavalier Jump for Joy filly Yearling!!! Born July 2008

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Gorteen Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 86 Adverts \| Friends	Cavalier Jump for Joy That's madness!!! I'd prefer to keep her than sell her for factory money!!!

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28-07-2009, 22:41	#2
MDFM Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 337 Adverts \| Friends	What age is she now and what price do u have in mind? Its anyone's guess really, horses are a poor trade now, have being for a while, no telling when it and the rest of the economic climate will pick up!

29-07-2009, 00:10	#4
convert Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: everywhere and anywhere Posts: 5,583 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Equestrian, Greyhound Racing, Horse Racing	It depends on your situation. I'm not sure how much more another year would add to her value. Plus you run the risk of her getting injured. You'd also have to take into account the cost of keeping her and breaking her. As mentioned above, horse prices are poor at the moment. I was at a TB sales recently and unbroken 3 year olds were making 300 average. A broken 4yo went for 400. Anything above 500 was a good price. And these horses were decent looking, mostly with clean certs and not badly bred. It was really depressing!

29-07-2009, 00:32	#6
convert Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: everywhere and anywhere Posts: 5,583 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Equestrian, Greyhound Racing, Horse Racing	If you're near Goresbridge you could visit the monthly sales held there to get an idea of the prices being made. Also, there was a report on the recent Goresbridge sport horse sales in last week's Irish Field. Might be worth reading it and taking a look at the prices.

29-07-2009, 00:49	#7
Chindato Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Co Monaghan Posts: 59 Adverts \| Friends	There's no market for yearlings. In this country, you sell as foals, three year olds, or under saddle. Generally, you'll make the best profit (or incur the least loss) selling as a foal. You've missed that boat, so your next best option is at three, lungeing over a pole. Any more training than that will cost you money and unless the animal is exceptional, it's money you won't see again. Both Cavan and Goresbridge do run youngstock sales in the autumn, so you could try your luck there. The fact that she is coloured might help her sell.

29-07-2009, 17:44	#9
needadvice Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 135 Adverts \| Friends	Its true that there is a cult following on coloured horses but I concur its likely you couldn't give her away but try cavan in September have her looking really amazing and put her in the ring you never know she could just be what someone wants.

08-08-2009, 18:58	#12
convert Moderator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: everywhere and anywhere Posts: 5,583 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Equestrian, Greyhound Racing, Horse Racing	A coloured horse wouldn't be my personal choice either, but there are some lovely coloured horses out there, so I understand why people would buy them. When I was a child I always wanted a skewbald pony so I could play cowboys and indians!!

09-08-2009, 02:20	#13
doctor evil Closed Account Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,072 Adverts \| Friends	You can never beat a chestnut mare!

27-05-2012, 22:10	#14
marley123 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 891 Adverts \| Friends	I know this is an old thread, but I just bought a mare today, put her sire into google ( cavalier jump for joy) and age and markings match!!!!

27-05-2012, 22:12	#15
marley123 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 891 Adverts \| Friends	Meant to say when I ran google search this thread come up!