[Fenian Army]

Originally Posted by meglome

I genuinely hate to get into this who was worst talk but there are posters all over town from groups I have never heard of before and all looking for a no. And there isn't a statement on one of them that isn't a lie or a misdirection.

What we should be really concerned about is whether the contents are factual or not. Are they factual?

See the link I posted earlier, Eoin Daly explains it rather well...

[The Waltzing Consumer]

Originally Posted by Fenian Army

See the link I posted earlier, Eoin Daly explains it rather well...

That's from the 25th of April. You said this is a new leaflet and not the one on their website.

Have to say, it is extremely disappointing that you are not actually telling us how it is mimicking the referendum commission or what the content is. We are two pages in and you are trying to make a big deal of something and not disclosing any info about this leaflet.

[later12]

Originally Posted by K-9

Is it the one that can be downloaded on the website?

http://www.stabilitytreaty.ie/index....to_every_home/

Presumably this was printed by the Oireachtas as opposed to one of the parties?

Is it appropriate to have official insignia on documents which use terms like "good housekeeping" and "renewed confidence" to describe the Treaty - descriptions which are likely to be quite contentious - during a Referendum campaign?

[meglome]

Originally Posted by Fenian Army

See the link I posted earlier, Eoin Daly explains it rather well...

Didn't read it all but it appears he's complaining that the money was spent and that's it's biased but I can't actually see where it's biased. What is the bias he's concerned about?

And of course that ignores his piece is about the last leaflet and not any new one. Not to mention Sinn Fien complaining about bias I take with large a pinch of salt.

[the groutch]

was it the one delivered along with your polling card?
if so then there might be grounds for complaint.

[Fenian Army]

Originally Posted by later12

Presumably this was printed by the Oireachtas as opposed to one of the parties?

Is it appropriate to have official insignia on documents which use terms like "good housekeeping" and "renewed confidence" to describe the Treaty - descriptions which are likely to be quite contentious - during a Referendum campaign?

add in, among others, "responsible budgeting".

At least that document says its from the govt, this leaflet doesn't and presents itself as impartial, independent advice when it is anything but.

[meglome]

Originally Posted by Fenian Army

add in, among others, "responsible budgeting".

At least that document says its from the govt, this leaflet doesn't and presents itself as impartial, independent advice when it is anything but.

We still don't know what's on the fluppin leaflet.

[Fenian Army]

Originally Posted by meglome

We still don't know what's on the fluppin leaflet.

Hopefully someone will upload it, I'm not typing the whole thing out and dont want to be accused of taking things out of context.

Basically it says it will bring investment and jobs, it will ensure responsible budgeting and "good house keeping" leading to reduced debt thus having more to spend on hospitals etc and goes on about the ESM also.

[djh2009]

Originally Posted by meglome

We still don't know what's on the fluppin leaflet.

Now you do.

Treatyjpg.jpg

[djh2009]

While we're at it, can anyone explain why, in the preamble to the main treaty are we referred to as Ireland rather than The Republic Of Ireland. Did we get a united Ireland as part of the deal too ?That might help swing it.lol

[Fenian Army]

Originally Posted by djh2009

Now you do.

Attachment 206144

The other side is the same but in Irish

[djh2009]

Originally Posted by Fenian Army

The other side is the same but in Irish

I can scan and post that also if anyone wants it.

[later12]

Originally Posted by djh2009

While we're at it, can anyone explain why, in the preamble to the main treaty are we referred to as Ireland rather than The Republic Of Ireland.

The Republic of Ireland is not the name of the country; Ireland is its constitutional name.

[djh2009]

Originally Posted by later12

The Republic of Ireland is not the name of the country; Ireland is its constitutional name.

Thanks for that. The reason I asked is that all the other countries mentioned are listed like "The Republic Of Bulgaria", The Kingdom Of Belgium", etc.

PS : Love your location in your profile.lol

[djh2009]

When phrases like “Stability for the Euro “, “Good Housekeeping “, “Job creators need currency stability …….to create jobs “(where have we heard that one before, remember Lisbon 2), “ This would provide a safety net against future economic problems” and on , and on are used it’s hardly rocket science to work out what the intention of this “information” leaflet is. And I for one would like to know , who has paid for the production and distribution of this.