[CSF]

Originally Posted by gnfnrhead

Sounds like they only had two of the four teams picked. Instead of blocking it the FAI should have just insisted on one of the other two being an Irish team. Doesn't matter who, just once it's an Irish team. Doubt there would have been much of a problem with that.

That wouldnt represent such a good negotiation technique.

[bohsman]

Originally Posted by Bob the Seducer

The FAI is playing both sides, they're treating it from a business standpoint. They want the money from an endeavour like this to service their stadium debt but they're being defended by those whose primary concern is the the other stakeholders in the game here; league clubs, junior and youth football etc...
While responsibility to these stakeholders may be in the FAI's remit, I'm not so naive as to think that concern for their wellbeing is the driving force behind the refusal to sanction this tournament. The cold hard truth has far more to do with euros on a balance sheet.

The quicker the stadium debt is paid off the sooner time and investment can be used elsewhere.

[kippy]

Originally Posted by bohsman

The quicker the stadium debt is paid off the sooner time and investment can be used elsewhere.

Are you serious?
If they continue paying their top brass (and JD is just one of them) in excess of 400K per year you can bet your bottom dollar that the last place any money goes will be into grassroots.
Even when the Aviva debt wasn't hanging over them the "Professional" league here was in bits.

[CiaranC]

Originally Posted by Bob the Seducer

In relation to this specific tournament one of my primary concerns would be the boost to the local economy - increased trade for hotels, shops, pubs etc more than what it actively gives back to Irish football.

What has the 'local economy' ever done for us? Is the Irish football community now part of Bord Failte or the IDA?

While responsibility to these stakeholders may be in the FAI's remit, I'm not so naive as to think that concern for their wellbeing is the driving force behind the refusal to sanction this tournament. The cold hard truth has far more to do with euros on a balance sheet.

Of course it is, nobody is saying any different.

[bohsman]

Originally Posted by kippy

Are you serious?
If they continue paying their top brass (and JD is just one of them) in excess of 400K per year you can bet your bottom dollar that the last place any money goes will be into grassroots.
Even when the Aviva debt wasn't hanging over them the "Professional" league here was in bits.

I'm not saying the money has to go into the league or that it would be used well but as long as the stadium has to be paid off there's no chance of any good investment in grassroots or the league. They certainly dont have enough money to be allowing other companies to take all profit from a tournament like this.

[kippy]

Originally Posted by CiaranC

What has the 'local economy' ever done for us? Is the Irish football community now part of Bord Failte or the IDA?


Of course it is, nobody is saying any different.

"local economy"????
I assume most local soccer clubs are sponsored directly or indirectly by local businesses.........who may or may not benefit from an event such as this...
I would also assume that the more money spent in the local or economy in general, the more likelihood of sporting grants being kept at their current level is....
It is very short sighted to write off the "local economy" and it's link to sports.....

[CSF]

Originally Posted by kippy

"local economy"????
I assume most local soccer clubs are sponsored directly or indirectly by local businesses.........who may or may not benefit from an event such as this...
I would also assume that the more money spent in the local or economy in general, the more likelihood of sporting grants being kept at their current level is....
It is very short sighted to write off the "local economy" and it's link to sports.....

I think its even more shortsighted to preach to people who are directly involved in the running of their club about how football clubs operate.

[kippy]

Originally Posted by CSF

I think its even more shortsighted to preach to people who are directly involved in the running of their club about how football clubs operate.

So clubs get no form of sponsorship/funding/guys buying the odd lotto ticket, possibly sold through the local businesses etc via the "local economy"?
They dont get grants of any kind?

Someone who comes on here and make a remark insinuating that sport is not effected by he local economy is going to be pulled up on it, and rightly so.

[CiaranC]

Originally Posted by kippy

So clubs get no form of sponsorship/funding/guys buying the odd lotto ticket, possibly sold through the local businesses etc via the "local economy"?
They dont get grants of any kind?

That must be why Limerick football is booming. Almost six hundred Limerick people went along to their last home game, quick hand them all our revenue streams they deserve it.

It seems there is no shortage of people on here who would love nothing more than to bypass the entire existing Irish football structure so they could get some "football entertainment products" going a couple of times a year for the amusement of our barstooler/daytipper brigades - whether its this nonsense, the Dublin Dons or having the GAA/IRFU host Euro 2020.

That **** might fly in Asia, but we are in our third century of football in Ireland, so no dice.