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**colm_mcm** · 20-05-2012, 14:53

Im moving around a few cables in the house, currently theres sky cables coming through the front wall downstairs, along some skirting boards, over doors etc, messy looking,

I'm gonna bring the cable under the facia board, through the attic and drop through the hot press etc.

I also have a similarly messy setup with my UPC cables, where I plan on running them along the same route,

Thing is, I'm not sure if there are different specs of coaxial cable for ED3 broadband or whether they're all the same.

The cabling from the network to my house was about 25 years old so I'm thinking maybe it doesn't make too much difference, just want to check before buying,

Thanks

zg3409 · 20-05-2012, 19:13

All the cable is the same. The best quality is branded cable with copper screen and centre core solid copper. It is expensive.

See this thread:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2056526781

Smithey88 · 20-05-2012, 19:18

I got upc broadband in last year. The cable they gave me was too short from entry point of house to where my pc was (in a different room like)

So i used the coax cable i got with my soarview aerial that was left over. Did the job perfectly. Im no expert but from what I gather coax is coax, broadband or satellite

**colm_mcm** · 20-05-2012, 19:54

Would pf100 be suitable?

Just looking at b&q site
http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/electrica...atellite_cable

zg3409 · 20-05-2012, 19:55

Cheaper coax has more losses, and cheaper screening which causes more chance of interference.

The results of cheap coax are the same. It may be perfect in your case but if the signal is on the limits you may:

1) Signal dropping causing freezing etc
2) Interference from DECT cordless telephones, particularly on channel 4 on Sat
3) Broadband signal dropping or connecting at a slower rate than possible.

If you have the proper gear you can measure this, but most people do not have access to it. The basic measure is Signal to Noise. Cheap coax increases the noise and reduces the signal. Very, very cheap coax is terrible in this regard.

zg3409 · 20-05-2012, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by colm_mcm

Would pf100 be suitable?

Just looking at b&q site
http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/electrica...atellite_cable

According to here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2056263457

Yes. For long runs, on a budget, B&Q is probably not the cheapest, but at least it's not like the leads sold in powercity!

**colm_mcm** · 20-05-2012, 20:32

See I don't want to go to a local type hardware store as I don't know if they'd know the difference between the types, any suggestions for the Clare/limerick area?

The Cush · 20-05-2012, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by colm_mcm

See I don't want to go to a local type hardware store as I don't know if they'd know the difference between the types, any suggestions for the Clare/limerick area?

Urlan TV on Clare St in Limerick.

**colm_mcm** · 20-05-2012, 22:46

Are they still in business?

Will check them out, they'd def know what theyre at.

**colm_mcm** · 20-05-2012, 22:52

As you can see the current setup isn't what you'd call elegant

Liameter · 21-05-2012, 08:49

WF100 is the best compromise but its bend radii need to be kept fairly large; no kinks.
If you want a more elegant solution, WF65-1 is suitable for short runs and can be bent fairly tightly around corners.

**colm_mcm** · 21-05-2012, 09:43

Thanks, there won't be any bends.

Gonna hit the shops and see what I can get

Tony · 21-05-2012, 17:27

Late to the thread but PF100 is an excellent cable if you can get hold of it .

**colm_mcm** · 21-05-2012, 18:05

I took the lazy/smart route and buried the cables behind the skirting and under the door, no cable required

Thanks for the input though, I'll need more cable for putting a point upstairs so at least I know what I'm after now.

steveon · 21-05-2012, 22:52

Best place in Limerick for any cable is electrical factors in the eastern business park.

Coming from town...head out the Tipperary road and turn into the eastern business park just after eircom on the rite...continue to top of the road and u will come to a t junction...turn left and its the first building on the right hand side.

20-05-2012, 14:53	#1
colm_mcm cars cars cars... Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 25,601 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Midwest, Motoring	Coaxial cable suitable for digital tv and broadband Im moving around a few cables in the house, currently theres sky cables coming through the front wall downstairs, along some skirting boards, over doors etc, messy looking, I'm gonna bring the cable under the facia board, through the attic and drop through the hot press etc. I also have a similarly messy setup with my UPC cables, where I plan on running them along the same route, Thing is, I'm not sure if there are different specs of coaxial cable for ED3 broadband or whether they're all the same. The cabling from the network to my house was about 25 years old so I'm thinking maybe it doesn't make too much difference, just want to check before buying, Thanks

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Smithey88 Banned Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 45 Adverts \| Friends	I got upc broadband in last year. The cable they gave me was too short from entry point of house to where my pc was (in a different room like) So i used the coax cable i got with my soarview aerial that was left over. Did the job perfectly. Im no expert but from what I gather coax is coax, broadband or satellite Last edited by Smithey88; 20-05-2012 at 19:22.

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20-05-2012, 19:13	#2
zg3409 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,980 Adverts \| Friends	All the cable is the same. The best quality is branded cable with copper screen and centre core solid copper. It is expensive. See this thread: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2056526781

20-05-2012, 19:54	#4
colm_mcm cars cars cars... Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 25,601 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Midwest, Motoring	Would pf100 be suitable? Just looking at b&q site http://www.diy.com/nav/fix/electrica...atellite_cable

20-05-2012, 19:55	#5
zg3409 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,980 Adverts \| Friends	Cheaper coax has more losses, and cheaper screening which causes more chance of interference. The results of cheap coax are the same. It may be perfect in your case but if the signal is on the limits you may: 1) Signal dropping causing freezing etc 2) Interference from DECT cordless telephones, particularly on channel 4 on Sat 3) Broadband signal dropping or connecting at a slower rate than possible. If you have the proper gear you can measure this, but most people do not have access to it. The basic measure is Signal to Noise. Cheap coax increases the noise and reduces the signal. Very, very cheap coax is terrible in this regard.

20-05-2012, 20:32	#7
colm_mcm cars cars cars... Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 25,601 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Midwest, Motoring	See I don't want to go to a local type hardware store as I don't know if they'd know the difference between the types, any suggestions for the Clare/limerick area?

20-05-2012, 22:46	#9
colm_mcm cars cars cars... Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 25,601 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Midwest, Motoring	Are they still in business? Will check them out, they'd def know what theyre at.

20-05-2012, 22:52	#10
colm_mcm cars cars cars... Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 25,601 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Midwest, Motoring	As you can see the current setup isn't what you'd call elegant

21-05-2012, 08:49	#11
Liameter Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 832 Adverts \| Friends	WF100 is the best compromise but its bend radii need to be kept fairly large; no kinks. If you want a more elegant solution, WF65-1 is suitable for short runs and can be bent fairly tightly around corners.

21-05-2012, 09:43	#12
colm_mcm cars cars cars... Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 25,601 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Midwest, Motoring	Thanks, there won't be any bends. Gonna hit the shops and see what I can get

21-05-2012, 17:27	#13
Tony Business owner Join Date: May 2001 Location: Satellite.ie Posts: 9,857 Adverts \| Friends	Late to the thread but PF100 is an excellent cable if you can get hold of it .

21-05-2012, 18:05	#14
colm_mcm cars cars cars... Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 25,601 Adverts \| Friends Mod: Midwest, Motoring	I took the lazy/smart route and buried the cables behind the skirting and under the door, no cable required Thanks for the input though, I'll need more cable for putting a point upstairs so at least I know what I'm after now.

21-05-2012, 22:52	#15
steveon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Limerick Posts: 2,425 Adverts \| Friends	Best place in Limerick for any cable is electrical factors in the eastern business park. Coming from town...head out the Tipperary road and turn into the eastern business park just after eircom on the rite...continue to top of the road and u will come to a t junction...turn left and its the first building on the right hand side.