[finality]

Originally Posted by reznov

INTJ is also known as DESIGNER
Builders and designers of both systems and products. Logical, evaluative with positive outlook. Theoretical and somewhat impersonal.

AKA,
The next Bill Gates.

Yup, that's exactly you.


...
Einstein and Darwin were INTP

[reznov]

Originally Posted by Dwellingdweller

Another ENFP! Yay! Nice one guys! I listen to it everyday in the hope of getting better at understanding French and I'm the same with the movies Patchy I wanna make sure I'm fully fluent at French before I learn German (I don't do German at school but I wanna learn it 'cos Germany sounds like the shpot!), so that's why I'm asking. :L When would yous say that a person can say, "I'm fluent at such and such a language"?

When you speak the language as though your mothertongue. No hiccups, absolute cultural awareness and ability to comprehend colloquial and complex literate terms. Coming out of school, you're far from fluent. Only way to reach fluency is residence in the corresponding country.

Yah but finality, we're Einstein and Darwin billionaires?

[Mysteriouschic]

I haven't studied today yet woke up late and went in for English. I usually start studying at about 9.30. I guess one late wakening isn't too bad. I'm starting from 2pm . My teacher went through short stories and said I need to think of a story and then on the day I'll use that story that I've made up and fit it into the title. But I the usually get my ideas from the title rather than just making up a story... Do you need to have a story prepared? I was just thinking of having a few plots in mind.

[Mysteriouschic]

Carl Jung is a INTP too the person who came up with the personality theories .

[Dwellingdweller]

Originally Posted by reznov

When you speak the language as though your mothertongue. No hiccups, absolute cultural awareness and ability to comprehend colloquial and complex literate terms. Coming out of school, you're far from fluent. Only way to reach fluency is residence in the corresponding country.

Yah but finality, we're Einstein and Darwin billionaires?

Hmm, I don't quite mean like that. I mean fluent in the sense that you'd be able to understand a native speaker with no problems at all and have a natural flowing conversation with, the only way someone could achieve what you're talking about is if they were born into the language (imho). Having said that I agree with ya and want to go to France someday so I can become fully fluent

And finality, I don't mean to rain on your parade anything... but yeah.

Edit: I just saw the INTP types, they're pretty cool too. There seems to be a ton of INTP philosophers, which is awesome. And Albert Speer! Deadly haha. For some reason I could see an ENFP and an INTP making an amazing combination, playing music together or something.

[reznov]

Originally Posted by Dwellingdweller

Hmm, I don't quite mean like that. I mean fluent in the sense that you'd be able to understand a native speaker with no problems at all and have a natural flowing conversation with, the only way someone could achieve what you're talking about is if they were born into the language (imho). Having said that I agree with ya and want to go to France someday so I can become fully fluent

And finality, I don't mean to rain on your parade anything... but yeah.

Not at all. Such fluency is achieved if one emigrates at an early age, having learned one language beforehand. However, I have a friend who has learned 3 languages to almost that degree. Two in his childhood, one in adulthood, so it is possible. I consider nothing else real fluency.

Famous INTJ:
* Arnold Schwarzenegger - actor, Governor of California
* Arthur Ashe - tennis champion
* Augustus Caesar - Roman Emperor
* C. Everett Koop - former U.S. Surgeon General
* C. S. Lewis - apologist, author (The Chronicles of Narnia)
* Calvin Coolidge - American President
* Charles Rangel - politician, decorated war veteran
* Chester A. Arthur - lawyer, American President
* Chevy Chase - actor, comedian
* Dan Akroyd - actor, comedian, musician
* Donald Rumsfeld - former U.S. Secretary of Defense
* Dwight D. Eisenhower - American President
* Edwin Moses - Olympic gold medalist
* General Colin Powell - former U.S. Secretary of State
* Greg Gumbel - TV sportscaster
* Hannibal Barca - Military Commander
* Ivan Lendl - tennis champion
* James K. Polk - American President
* Jane Austen - author (Pride and Prejudice)
* Joan Lunden - Journalist
* Josephine Tey - English author
* Katie Couric - journalist
* Lance Armstrong - cyclist (seven Tour De France wins)
* Maria Shriver - journalist, wife to Arnold Schwarzenegger
* Martina Navratilova - tennis champion
* Michael Dukakis - former Governor of Massachusetts
* Orel Hershiser - baseball player (pitcher)
* Pernell Roberts - actor, activist
* Peter Jennings - journalist
* Raymond Burr - actor (Perry Mason), vintner
* Rudy Giuliani - former New York City mayor
* Sir Isaac Newton - Astronomer
* Susan B. Anthony - civil rights leader
* Thomas Jefferson - American President
* Veronica Hamel - actress
* William F. Buckley, Jr. - journalist
* William J. Bennett - politician
* Woodrow Wilson - American President
* General Ulysses S. Grant – Union general, American President
* Friederich Nietzsche – philosopher
* Niels Bohr – physicist
* Peter the Great – Russian tsar
* Stephen Hawking – astrophysicist
* John Maynard Keynes –
* Lise Meitner – chemist
* Ayn Rand – philosopher, author
* John F. Nash Jr. – mathematician, game theorist
* Norbert Wiener – mathematician, founder of cybernetics
* Nikola Tesla – physicist, engineer, inventor
* Glenn Gould – Canadian pianist and composer
* Stanley Kubrick – film director (2001: A Space Odyssey)
* Jean-Paul Sartre – philosopher
* Erik Satie – composer, pianist
* Helmuth von Moltke – German military general
* Isaac Asimov – biochemist, science-fiction author (I Robot)
* Theodore Kaczynski – infamous “Unabomber”
* Lewis Carroll – author, logician, mathematician
* Franz Kafka – author
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[Dwellingdweller]

Niels Bohr, Kubrick, Sartre, Satie, Kafka, Asimov? Nice one ENFP's seem to mostly just be professional ****-disturbers, whereas INTJ's seem more... structured. Guevara, Castro, Ahmadinejad, I could see a scrap breaking out betwen them and an INTJ pretty easily! Yeah, I know what you mean about the fluency thing. Hopefully I'll be able to do the same as your friend, I love languages.

[finality]

Awwww I'm the same as Richard Dawkins, I'm going to have to reevaluate my entire perspective on life.

[David1994]

I did the personality test and got ENTP Not sure if thats good or bad..haha

[fizzyorange]

I got ENTJ which is also known as a "trailblazer". That sounds terrifyingly destructive.

Edit: I'm also ecstatic because this is the first time I've ever been described as an extrovert. My guidance counselor says I don't have the people skills for the career I want to go into but I think I prefer the quizzes advice.

[Mysteriouschic]

You can get to know more about them if you google which ever type and click the first link which says portrait of a. (type) . It's interesting too and the careers it has down for me one of them is actually what I want to do .

[Meowth]

Graduating tomorrow Mixed feelings here about it all I bet I will cry like a bawse

[Wesc.]

Just changed my facebook password to a really long one so I won't log in as regularly! Hopefully I'll get distracted less now Didn't get anything done today in the library at all, literally nothing!I was there with my 2 friends and we were laughig and joking the whole time NEVER going in with friends again :L

[Wesc.]

Does anyone here know how to download the listening part of the French exam for the last few years? I've been looking through the Folen's website for ages but of no avail

[Siobhnk]

IFSJ we did that quiz in school too