[kevwalsh044]

hi everybody i am thinking of applying for the garda reserve but i have a problem my line of work is security.i heard you cant join the reserves if you work in security. is this true.

[msg11]

Originally Posted by kevwalsh044

hi everybody i am thinking of applying for the garda reserve but i have a problem my line of work is security.i heard you cant join the reserves if you work in security. is this true.

I'll take a wild guess, that if you did work in security you couldn't be stationed in the area you work in as it would be a conflict of interests. That's my understand of it , even though it says you shouldn't apply (I think).

Give the Garda Reserve office a bell and explain your situation, sure apply away it takes ages anyway and you might change career paths!

[kevwalsh044]

I'll take a wild guess, that if you did work in security you couldn't be stationed in the area you work in as it would be a conflict of interests. That's my understand of it , even though it says you shouldn't apply (I think).

Give the Garda Reserve office a bell and explain your situation, sure apply away it takes ages anyway and you might change career paths!

thanks for the reply. yes i might just give them a ring one of the days and find out. it would be anoying if i couldnt apply because of my job .

[robo008]

3. Recruitment of reserve trainees - restrictions on admission to training.

(1) Notwithstanding that the requirements of Regulation 4 are met, a person may not be recruited for admission as a reserve trainee if the person-
(a) holds a designated certificate, licence or permit, (which is issued by the District Court, Circuit Court, Garda Siochana or Revenue Commissioners and that involves gain to the holder, including any such certificate, licence or permit issued pursuant to – (i) the Licensing Acts 1833 to 2004, (ii) the Betting Acts 1931 and 1994, or (iii) any laws regulating places of public entertainment),
(b) is a member of the Defence Forces,
(c) is an officer of court,
(d) is an officer of the probation and welfare service,
(e) is a bailiff,
(f) is a prison officer,
(g) is a practising barrister or a practising solicitor,
(h) for reward or personal gain, manages or conducts, or assists in the management or conducting of, a concern or premises which is required by law to be operated under a licence, permit or certificate, the grant of which may be opposed by the Garda Síochána,
(i) provides a security service within the meaning of the Private Security Services Act 2004,
(j) serves summonses as a spare time activity, or
(k) is employed in any occupation or holds any appointment or position which, in the opinion of the Garda Commissioner, may cause a conflict of interest with the proper discharge of the duties of a reserve member.
(2) Notwithstanding any other provision of these Regulations, the Garda Commissioner may not recruit a person for admission as a reserve trainee if it appears to the Commissioner that the person is generally unsuitable for such admission.



Yes your employment would be considered a conflict of interest. If you interested in the reserves download the information booklet on publicjobs.ie

[kevwalsh044]

Rang the garda reserve office there now.Unfortunatly i can not join the reserve.He said if i want to apply and if i get in i will have to hand back my security licence to the PSA.Very disapointed really want to join the gards .

[robo008]

Id still apply if you wanted it that much. The reserve recruitment is a long drawn out process... (Taken me 2 years to be called for training) so if I was you I would apply and "cross the bridge when you come to it" regarding your PSA licence.

[triple-M]

hi,does anyone know if working as an event steward at matches/concerts etc would consitute a conflict of interest and bar me from joining the gr?I dont hold a psa licence

[TylerIE]

Originally Posted by triple-M

hi,does anyone know if working as an event steward at matches/concerts etc would consitute a conflict of interest and bar me from joining the gr?I dont hold a psa licence

Yes as (h)

(h) for reward or personal gain, manages or conducts, or assists in the management or conducting of, a concern or premises which is required by law to be operated under a licence, permit or certificate, the grant of which may be opposed by the Garda Síochána,

would apply. Many events/ marches / concerts require a license to operate, and you would be assisting in the conducting of such event.

In reality most event "Stewards" are acting in a security role but operating at the limit of the law.

Its been rumoured for years that the loophole that allows non PSA licensed people to work at these events is going to be closed but we have yet to see.

[Dannyboy1987]

I still find it crazy that security officers/guards aren't allowed to join. Would of loved to join myself maybe some other time

[B2deF]

Originally Posted by TylerIE

Yes as (h)



would apply. Many events/ marches / concerts require a license to operate, and you would be assisting in the conducting of such event.

In reality most event "Stewards" are acting in a security role but operating at the limit of the law.

Its been rumoured for years that the loophole that allows non PSA licensed people to work at these events is going to be closed but we have yet to see.

Wrong you can be a reserve and a steward once you don't hold a PSA license.

[TylerIE]

Originally Posted by B2deF

Wrong you can be a reserve and a steward once you don't hold a PSA license.

Read it again...

(h) for reward or personal gain, manages or conducts, or assists in the management or conducting of, a concern or premises which is required by law to be operated under a licence, permit or certificate, the grant of which may be opposed by the Garda Síochána,

If your stewarding at an event (thats licensed) your assisting in the conduction of a concern or premises which is required by law to be operated under a licence.

Anybody Stewarding at major events is operating right on the threshold of requiring a PSA license, so while many dont have them, they still are assisting in the conduction of the event.