[mikom]

Originally Posted by hugebogtotter

Why thank you Magnum but my name is Stephen.
I guess I do love that site more than I thought!
To summarise
I shared information in relevant threads on 1 product, 1 competition, 1 blog with water saving tips and 1 blog on how to install a water butt.
I'm sure I will end up in hell some day.

You may end up somewhere else a lot sooner.

[Biggins]

Although its a British related site, if you want a good site to try save money with the upcoming new charges, there is many a good idea on this sites pages:

http://www.savewatersavemoney.co.uk/

http://www.savewatersavemoney.co.uk/tips

[Run_to_da_hills]

There is a far more sinister move behind pushing in these new high tech electronic household water meters.

The system will know exactly if someone is present in the house from water flow trickling through the "smart" electronic RF gate valve which can be remotely controlled and read.

Households can have their water supply remotely terminated if they disobey.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ear...-UK-homes.html

http://www.stopsmartmetersnow.com/?page_id=2

[Tom Cruise]

Stronghold 3 is what they are playing.Torturing peasents.
We dont have a strong army so if we ever did a arab spring over here in Ireland they would all get the **** kicked out of their over paid ass.

[Capt'n Midnight]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05...ergy_analysis/

Desalination of sea water would cost £22 per person per year for London.
Capital cost £500 per person

metering is more expensive than alternative methods of water supply.

This works out at 1KWhr per person per day, desalination could act as a way to "store" renewable power. You just desalt sea water when you have spare energy.

[Am Chile]

I have gotten some info on these water meters off someone who has done the water meter installation course- first some people might be wondering exactly where these water meters are gonna be installed-have a look in your driveway or outside on the footpath just outside your gate-look for the watershore as shown in the picture in the attachment-that's where the water meters are set to be installed-luckily for me the water shore is inside the middle of my driveway so therefore they will have to get access to my private property to be able to install the water meter which I certainly refuse access-second they won't turn off someones water off completely' what they will do however is fix the pressure with the water meter so all someone is left with is a few drips of water out of the tap-third how they plan to read the water meters to read the water useage there will be a GPS signal on the water meter-a water meter inspector will just need a device to read the GPS signal to read the water meter useage- last the good news I have being told by this person water meters are not by any means tamper proof there will be ways to tamper with them to make the water meter underrecord the amount of water used-and ways to interfere with GPS signal on the water meter all someone needs is a GPS signal jammer to interfere with the signal and block it on the water meter.

[Matt Bauer]

Originally Posted by Am Chile

I have gotten some info on these water meters off someone who has done the water meter installation course- first some people might be wondering exactly where these water meters are gonna be installed-have a look in your driveway or outside on the footpath just outside your gate-look for the watershore as shown in the picture in the attachment-that's where the water meters are set to be installed-luckily for me the water shore is inside the middle of my driveway so therefore they will have to get access to my private property to be able to install the water meter which I certainly refuse access-second they won't turn off someones water off completely' what they will do however is fix the pressure with the water meter so all someone is left with is a few drips of water out of the tap-third how they plan to read the water meters to read the water useage there will be a GPS signal on the water meter-a water meter inspector will just need a device to read the GPS signal to read the water meter useage- last the good news I have being told by this person water meters are not by any means tamper proof there will be ways to tamper with them to make the water meter underrecord the amount of water used-and ways to interfere with GPS signal on the water meter all someone needs is a GPS signal jammer to interfere with the signal and block it on the water meter.

Water is not free, what makes you expect it for free? If you had to drill your own well, you would be paying more. It could be argued that we have plenty of water and there should be a fixed fee instead of water meters, though.

[Ghandee]

Originally Posted by Matt Bauer

Water is not free, what makes you expect it for free? If you had to drill your own well, you would be paying more.

How was it paid for up to now?

[Matt Bauer]

After reading some more, I am definitely against water meters, especially of the "smart" variety. I think instead there should be a flat yearly fee for water to cover its cost, that's it, nothing more. We're not Italy where it's dry and they don't have enough water. This is Ireland, we have enough water, but obviously it costs money to filter and deliver it, so a flat monthly fee (without any smart meters) should do that.

Who's with me?

[Matt Bauer]

Originally Posted by Ghandee

How was it paid for up to now?

Taxes subsidised by everyone who didn't have so-called "free water".

[Am Chile]

Originally Posted by Matt Bauer

Water is not free, what makes you expect it for free? If you had to drill your own well, you would be paying more. It could be argued that we have plenty of water and there should be a fixed fee instead of water meters, though.

Water is already paid for through general taxation.

[Ghandee]

Originally Posted by Matt Bauer

Taxes subsidised by everyone who didn't have so-called "free water".

So, then by this logic....

Surely to God, somewhere along the line (paye or elsewhere) we'll see a reduction in the tax that used to pay for it?

I'm dreaming, right?

[dvpower]

Originally Posted by Am Chile

Water is already paid for through general taxation.

Water is an ongoing cost. It is not 'already paid for'.

[dvpower]

Originally Posted by Ghandee

Surely to God, somewhere along the line (paye or elsewhere) we'll see a reduction in the tax that used to pay for it?

There has been a dramatic reduction in the amount of tax the exchequer has been taking in in recent years.

Originally Posted by Ghandee

I'm dreaming, right?

No - but you may have been asleep.

[Ghandee]

Originally Posted by dvpower

There has been a dramatic reduction in the amount of tax the exchequer has been taking in in recent years.


No - but you may have been asleep.

May have been.......